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#211 Vihar

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:53 PM

Wait....

   Did SBI get stuck with both Daish and Beastgate, now?

   WTF?

#212 Hennet

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:56 PM

View PostVihar, on 26 November 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Wait....

   Did SBI get stuck with both Daish and Beastgate, now?

   WTF?
OUR PLAN, IT WORKS! Enjoy Daish, our little gift to you :)

Anyone have a monday morning score update?

#213 Syphen

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

View PostVihar, on 26 November 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Wait....

   Did SBI get stuck with both Daish and Beastgate, now?

   WTF?
It was sabatoge plain and simple

#214 Syphen

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:04 PM

Score Update

SBI    97,763 +295
SOS  79,116 +135
JQ     66,858 +265

#215 Kelo

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:06 PM

View PostMonsterDemon, on 26 November 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

Sure looks like nobody shows up on SOS, whether we were up or down this weekend.  Odd...  I have not seen being outmanned buff in 2-3 maps regularly ever since I joined server.  But you gotta give credit for SBI and JQ for showing up.  

Does other servers change guild rotations for maps?  I've noticed SOS changes quite a bit.  This weekend PRX aren't in EB and is chilling in one of the borderlands and aren't even in full force.

You call 50-60 people all [PRX] not full force?!? Not even War Machine fields anything near that on average...

#216 Stovokor X

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:08 PM

View Postjacksj1, on 26 November 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

It was about 10-15 WM and 10-15 pugs.

WvW is dieing. A 30 man zerg can clear most of the maps in non US prime time.

Doomsday prepper ??

#217 MaLeVoLenT_1

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:13 PM

View PostCalmLittleBuddy, on 26 November 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

Let's look at the 2 vs 1 claim. Now that SoS is in it's second week of T1, the claim of 2v1 has come up from them. As it did back in the day. JQ claimed it happened once v HoD, so trust me, I know how it looks.

etc etc etc.....
Forum post of the year best post I've seen so far. I agree 100%.

#218 Hennet

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:16 PM

View PostSyphen, on 26 November 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

Score Update

SBI 97,763 +295
SOS  79,116 +135
JQ 66,858 +265
SoS's oceanics sleeping still?

View PostKelo, on 26 November 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

You call 50-60 people all [PRX] not full force?!? Not even War Machine fields anything near that on average...
I dont recall seeing over 20 PRX on the BL map they are assigned to... please dont spread random numbers around.

#219 Killminusnine

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:31 PM

View PostCalmLittleBuddy, on 26 November 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

You're new here, aren't you?

That's much better.  Try to keep it to one or two sentences or you'll miss the mark every time.

View PostKelo, on 26 November 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

You call 50-60 people all [PRX] not full force?!? Not even War Machine fields anything near that on average...

Lies, I saw at least 800 WM out in EB the other day led by Daish.

#220 JanaFayestorm

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:04 PM

View PostZomious, on 26 November 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

At least he joined a guild that represents his emotions. :P  Last week's loss must have really stung lol.

But I agree with you on your previous post. If we lose it's cause we were beaten fair and square (and black and blue :( ) and hats off to the winner. No point in making excuses, specially when we were calling out people for doing the exact same thing last week.

Last week was a freebie for you guys. But it's different for The Professionals, they've been there before. Glad to be fighting them again too.

#221 Killminusnine

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:15 PM

View PostJanaFayestorm, on 26 November 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Last week was a freebie for you guys. But it's different for The Professionals, they've been there before. Glad to be fighting them again too.

There's no noticeable difference between T4 and T1 play. Although unfortunate, it's true.

#222 Luthor Huss

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:38 PM

View PostJanaFayestorm, on 26 November 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Last week was a freebie for you guys. But it's different for The Professionals, they've been there before. Glad to be fighting them again too.

Loving it.

Expected this from you guys. No one said anything about a freebie last week. We were told we would be smashed mid-week if not the start of the match.

It's almost like you guys are tempting karma to prove you wrong ... again.

#223 Vihar

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:02 PM

"Freebie", meaning that most of SBI was PVE'ing last week.

   You never heard that last week?

   What planet were you on?

#224 MaLeVoLenT_1

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:09 PM

This week is a freebie for you guys.
see what i did there

#225 Wotah

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:47 PM

SoS it's only Monday, you can come back.  Don't let the forum warriors get you down.

We on JQ and our friends on SBI want to say thanks for being fun to fight and sorry for 2v1's.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:52 PM

Well, I guess we should take this back-n-forth and turn it into something fun. Here's a working list of the rules of T1. Do add your own, in good taste, not singling out any server by name.

***The Rules of T1***

1.) You will be 2v1'ed. Learn to live with it, and ways to mitigate it.

2.) You cannot actually win. If you win the point total, the excuses on the forums will prove that, actually, you lost. Just behind the scenes. It's best that you know this ahead of time.

3.) There are often thieves/mesmers/guardians from the enemy team in the keeps by the lord's room inexplicably, likely through exploits. The best things to do in this scenario is to take screenshots, post them online, defame a server while absolutely losing your mind on the boards for about 30 minutes... and then, once the moderators delete said posts, go back to playing and act like nothing happened.

4.) People who either are in point leads, or feel that they should be, will provoke you on the forums. The best things to do is to spend hours replying. Forum fights help your server in game the most... and ultimately there's a point to it, so your time isn't wasted.

5.) You will be 2v1'ed.

6.) You will be 2v1'ed.

7.) Theres 3 teams. You're one of them. All fighting on the same map. ... guess what will often happen? (2v1).

8.) If you win, guilds will switch to your server as will PuGs with commander tags, and will start screaming at everyone in map chat. These are the bold, extremely intelligent and informed leaders you've been waiting for. The fruits of your labor. Embrace them - for they are the only trophy of winning WvW. And have fun trying to get them to stfu at reset. :)

9.) Portal bombs, cloaking abilities, coordinated stun abilities, and groups of more than 3 ppl playing together past 12am ET, are unfair and should be removed from the game. Therefore any and all victories achieved through these means are voided and thus irrelevant.

#227 Kreen

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:55 PM

View PostHennet, on 26 November 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

The longwinded posts dont make a whole lot of sense.

How much of SoS have you seen out there actually fighting? SoS bl and EB right? The other two BL's have had almost ZERO organized presence on them. Its rather clear that some of the SoS guilds are taking a well deserved week off after busting arse to climb up 9 ranks.

Its monday and the fight is far from over, lets see what happens friday morning!

not sure which post you are referring to with the long winded comment. Calmbuddy's was spot on if you took some time to read it.

On your other point. As Vihar said this has been the case for both JQ and SBI for several weeks. I can't speak for SBI directly but its obvious from watching their forces counter ours or us responding to their movements. Both servers deal with a limited population by having limited forces on each map that then make requests for help to mobile forces or where the commanders  want to apply pressure or take advantage of situations they see developing. Where to deploy our limited forces to acheive the best bang for the buck is where to good commanders earn their stripes.

It was clear last week that SoS had enough players to fill most maps at the various prime times. This week its clear you are in the same situation as SBI and JQ.



As you say its only Monday and we have the whole week ahead of us. Hopefuly we will get some more fun fights.

The real concern for me is that all servers are facing this and that's not good for the future of WvW.

If darkfall ends up as another fail I wonder whether there will any GW2 WvW  to come back to :)

Edited by Kreen, 26 November 2012 - 08:06 PM.


#228 Kam8T88

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:38 PM

So the question is are we (SoS) going to do what SBI, IoJ, and every other "amazing" server does when we've beaten them; cop excuses, blame transfers and PvE events? Or just admit we were bested. I'll be the guy.

SBI - You guys are playing well.

Honestly I'm thankful. I'm glad we're not winning our first 2 weeks in a row. I would be disappointed if T1 really was as easy as it was last week. Cheers.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:43 PM

SBI-105112+460
JQ-70581+130
SoS-80951+105

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:57 PM

View PostKam8T88, on 26 November 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

So the question is are we (SoS) going to do what SBI, IoJ, and every other "amazing" server does when we've beaten them; cop excuses, blame transfers and PvE events?
You're only a couple pages away from the start of the excuses some of your servermates have already been throwing around, and SBI hasn't even won yet.

No one should act as if their server somehow accepts losses without excuses, unlike the others. We all have our bad apples. Acting condescending doesn't change that.

Edited by Treble, 26 November 2012 - 08:57 PM.


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Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:03 PM

View PostKillminusnine, on 26 November 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

There's no noticeable difference between T4 and T1 play. Although unfortunate, it's true.

What did you expect really? The only difference is coverage and numbers.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:23 PM

I think there is a meta game in Tier 1 that isn't necessarily "Better" than lower tiers, but it is definitely challenging. Coverage and numbers only matter during each server's deadzones, which do exist despite being in Tier 1. When all numbers are equal, on a map by map basis, it comes down to understanding the meta game and out maneuvering your opponents. This is the analysis we've come up with and we're (multiple guilds sharing this thought) quite happy with the game. Stagnated content? I scoff at the statement :)

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:24 PM

SBI do not make the same assumption that BG did in week 1 when they where leading. SoS is very capable of fielding the man power needed when the tiime calls for it. Their past record has indicate this during some of there match ups.

No one is taking a "week off" they are still fighting tooth and nail with us. Make sure we keep the pressure.

To our NA brethen keep extending the nice lead. We oceanic/sea will bake you a cake when Firday comes :P

#234 Kam8T88

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:40 PM

View PostTreble, on 26 November 2012 - 08:57 PM, said:

No one should act as if their server somehow accepts losses without excuses, unlike the others. We all have our bad apples. Acting condescending doesn't change that.

Nothing does. So if you're the 1 guy from SBI who wasn't making excuses last week then go ahead and ignore my posts.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:03 PM

View PostKam8T88, on 26 November 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

Nothing does. So if you're the 1 guy from SBI who wasn't making excuses last week then go ahead and ignore my posts.

Making excuses would have required him to actually be playing the game, not dorking around in PS2. *glares at Treble* :angry:

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:33 PM

Had some great fun with WM in JQ borderlands this morning. We had all of the south map covered and moved onto garrison with golems. Don't know if it succeeded in the end, but it was epic.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:37 PM

View PostBeastgate, on 26 November 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

Had some great fun with WM in JQ borderlands this morning. We had all of the south map covered and moved onto garrison with golems. Don't know if it succeeded in the end, but it was epic.
You failed and we painted three BL's Blue right after ;)

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:44 PM

View PostStei, on 26 November 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

You failed and we painted three BL's Blue right after ;)

View PostStei, on 26 November 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

You failed and we painted three BL's Blue right after ;)

Damn you, JQ!

Oh, yeah?

How did it feel last night when SoS trebbed your hills and we swooped in to claim it? You like that 2v1 action?

2v1 43va~

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:48 PM

View PostKillminusnine, on 26 November 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

That's much better.  Try to keep it to one or two sentences or you'll miss the mark every time.



Lies, I saw at least 800 WM out in EB the other day led by Daish.


My Band is always small. But we don't afraid. just need more blood.
this video is yesterday. And i achieved 500 points in this way. This is one of SBI.

Edited by Jang Gun, 27 November 2012 - 12:05 AM.


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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:56 PM

View Postnotprofit, on 26 November 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

Damn you, JQ!

Oh, yeah?

How did it feel last night when SoS trebbed your hills and we swooped in to claim it? You like that 2v1 action?

2v1 43va~
Probably the same way you guys felt when both SoS and us hit your hills keep in SoS BL with golems. Lol We just barely missed that ninja too :( SOOOO CLOSE SoS




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