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#61 Coldviper18

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:09 AM

Keep it classy BG on Green map. Keep it classy.

#62 Kreamy

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:23 AM

The notion that there is  (or should be) some kind of convention on who can acceptably be assaulted and who can’t is absurd. Screw the math, screw extrapolation on ratings - If territory can be taken from an opponent, take it. Calling a server out for attacking the “wrong” side is asinine.

There was a scenario last night (oceanic time) where IOJ were positively pounding us in EB and had a large force holding us at bay from pushing into other areas on the map. At this time BG was sitting 3rd on the table, with the lowest ppt. Now, is there anything wrong with IOJ’s tactic? Not at all. Does it mean they are playing for 2nd place? Not necessarily, and it doesn’t bloody well matter. It made for some good fighting is all I know.

There is a certain irony in the fact that there is less posturing on the battlefield than there is on the forums.

#63 Ramanadjinn

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:50 AM

View PostMif, on 27 November 2012 - 04:04 AM, said:

You can clearly see in your screenshot that you have attacked IoJ in EB.
Too hard to attack the server in first place? They too strong for you?

are they attacking the right guys now?  is this ok?
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Edited by Ramanadjinn, 27 November 2012 - 06:52 AM.


#64 Jacbo

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:14 AM

BG and SoR working together or ignoring each other? Could have fooled me. Pretty sure when we had an epic fight in SoR Garrison today, BG had been trebbing them from Dawn's Eyrie before we showed up, and were more than happy to wrest it from them had we not done it first.

Also pretty sure that if they were focusing us, once they split BG/SoR BL, which they virtually always do since IoJ can only cover 2 maps consistently, they'd just hop on over to IoJ and push us non-stop. So far the only time that's happened was during EU time when RK/DR(sp? It's deutsch) got their PvDoor on. And that was only after they'd made virtually every other map an ugly shade of green.

So yeah, nobody is working together or playing for anything but #1. It's all about being opportunistic. If SoR is fighting tenaciously, and IoJ has... nobody on, why not target IoJ? Hell, I would. The same holds true for any server against any server.

I'm having fun this match regardless. Been lots of good fights, whatever the score may read. We'll be seeing each other for a few weeks yet if Tier 1/3 hold, so no need to get all uppity.

Edited by Jacbo, 27 November 2012 - 08:24 AM.


#65 PunNyJR

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:22 AM

what happen with these ioj guys. get over it. this's peaceful thread.

SoR BL at least has some Green on it but no red at all while there are some Red on Bg BL.

also it was truely pvdoor we should have had  695 ppt  right ?

#66 bagsy

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:31 AM

View PostJacbo, on 27 November 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

snip

I like you.

Also...
SOR: 105679 +175
BG: 99147 +260
IOJ: 94007 +260

#67 Gully

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:08 AM

No matter if you're in tier 1, tier 2 or tier 10. Every single community thinks they're being double teamed.

If your nameplate is red, I'm gonna stab the crap out of you. Doesn't matter how many you bring, I will take people down with me.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:32 AM

i used to think that oh shit they were doubleteamed us all the time but then i realised may be its us who had the least coverage at that time thus weakpoint for anyone to grab. surely we arent having any policy to focus anyone right now.

PS: Ninja golem rush yesterday vid! Enjoy!

Edited by Nirvii, 27 November 2012 - 11:39 AM.


#69 Coldviper18

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:28 PM

I wish I could figure out how to make video's, would've been awesome to show how we on BG borders, crushed BG's 10+ golem rush on bay. And the several times we crushed them with their little asura mesmer blinking his way inside.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:13 PM

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Great job BG!

#71 Yarz_Widow

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:44 PM

View PostEPIC Mara, on 26 November 2012 - 06:05 AM, said:

Finally back after 2 weeks of no WvW! And what a match up to return to. [EPIC]'s out there in full force again. Watch your backs. :P

Welcome back Mara nice to see you with us again

#72 Concerned_Player

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:55 PM

View PostMif, on 27 November 2012 - 04:21 AM, said:

I wasn't refering to the past 2 weeks. I was refering to your post.

I think it's rather lame to come on here and brag about how you're catching the leader when in reality you're just effectively double teaming with the leader to take 2nd place.

Anyway, I'm done.
Is GW2 a 2v1 WW v W, type game?

Sure seems like it in this post.

#73 Yarz_Widow

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:37 PM

View PostGully, on 27 November 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

No matter if you're in tier 1, tier 2 or tier 10. Every single community thinks they're being double teamed.

If your nameplate is red, I'm gonna stab the crap out of you. Doesn't matter how many you bring, I will take people down with me.

^This. Of course you will see less battles between the other two servers when you have your own battles to fight.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:56 PM

Was fun in ET BG and SoR BL. Damn the overlook was epic fail for us though lol... We were having real bad luck to encounter SoR zergs on our way at Mendon =-=''' Then we decided to screw the epic mission and go for revenge in SoR borderland to take back Garrison lol.

Prop to all the ppl who fight hard and make WvW fun :) Cya soon!

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:09 AM

I'd be embarrassed if I was double teaming one side and still losing.  Given SOR's huge zergs and how bad they are they'll never be tier 1 material.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:19 AM

Since it's been awhile since we've had the pleasure of seeing these incredible graphs, and since this match is pretty close at the mid-week mark, I thought I'd have a go at it. All credit for creation of these graphs and data goes to MaddBomber83 of the HoD server.


Score Update (based on last data entry at http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA):
BG - 121,913 + 445 (+72 ppt average for the match from extra Yak points / error)
SOR - 117,188 + 175 (+19 ppt average for the match from extra Yak points / error)
IOJ - 110,528 + 75 (+88 ppt average for the match from extra Yak points / error)

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Battle for First (BG v SOR): SOR needs a 18 PPT Lead (58% plausible)
BG Current (445) v SOR Current (175) = SOR will not take 1st
BG Min (95) v SOR Max (455) = SOR 1st in 2 Hour(s) (Wednesday 1:04 AM)
BG Min (95) v SOR Avg (274) = SOR 1st in 4 Hour(s) (Wednesday 2:57 AM)
BG Avg (233) v SOR Max (455) = SOR 1st in 4 Hour(s) (Wednesday 2:14 AM)

Battle for Second (SOR v IOJ): IOJ needs a 25 PPT Lead (20% plausible)
SOR Current (175) v IOJ Current (75) = IOJ will not take 2nd
SOR Min (70) v IOJ Max (345) = IOJ 2nd in 4 Hour(s) (Wednesday 2:39 AM)
SOR Min (70) v IOJ Avg (188) = IOJ 2nd in 9 Hour(s) (Wednesday 7:15 AM)
SOR Avg (274) v IOJ Max (345) = IOJ 2nd in 14 Hour(s) (Wednesday 12:35 PM)

Battle for First (BG v IOJ): IOJ needs a 43 PPT Lead (23% plausible)
BG Current (445) v IOJ Current (75) = IOJ will not take 1st
BG Min (95) v IOJ Max (345) = IOJ 1st in 7 Hour(s) (Wednesday 5:41 AM)
BG Min (95) v IOJ Avg (188) = IOJ 1st in 18 Hour(s) (Wednesday 4:40 PM)
BG Avg (233) v IOJ Max (345) = IOJ 1st in 15 Hour(s) (Wednesday 1:42 PM)

Edited by Global_GW2, 28 November 2012 - 02:41 AM.


#77 Hellsaint

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:24 AM

Lol I guess if anything this graph proves the trends of who is fighting who at least in part it seems that both IoJ and SoR have worked with BG against each other.

Who is worse than another, when they both hired the same merc to kill each other. /shrug sounds like a tragedy

#78 Arctix

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:26 AM

Team Legacy had a great night tonight! It was fun bouncing around Blackgate Borderlands and messing with SoR's MASSIVE group.

I think we did pretty well considering we were out-manned the majority of the night and SoR had some big numbers.

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We'll see you all tomorrow!

#79 Nirvii

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:44 AM

Btw here is the vid for those Oceanic peeps who participated yesterday, enjoy!:


#80 Smokee

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 09:06 AM

Here is another HB video shot during this weeks fight:



Enjoy :)

#81 xcalamity

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:06 AM

is urge the only big guild that doesnt have vids :(

#82 Smokee

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:19 AM

View Postxcalamity, on 28 November 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

is urge the only big guild that doesnt have vids :(

I got a video with Choco and I doing a dungeon! ( well trying, we kinda failed some :lol: ) Had to get some runes from it, and it will hopefully be the last time I ever set food in a dungeon!

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:49 AM

View PostSmokee, on 28 November 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

I got a video with Choco and I doing a dungeon! ( well trying, we kinda failed some :lol: ) Had to get some runes from it, and it will hopefully be the last time I ever set food in a dungeon!

You just quoted Choco gramps. :P

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:40 PM

View PostArctix, on 28 November 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:

Team Legacy had a great night tonight! It was fun bouncing around Blackgate Borderlands and messing with SoR's MASSIVE group.

I think we did pretty well considering we were out-manned the majority of the night and SoR had some big numbers.

We'll see you all tomorrow!

It was a pleasure to fight you legacy. How many did you have out in BG BL last night?

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Edited by Frozire, 28 November 2012 - 04:57 PM.
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#85 Lalnuir

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:41 PM

There is nothing funnier than watching a mesmer glitch through bay wall and die before he can drop his portal then his whole guild run away.
Also having your whole zerg attacking green lake while we cap bay and red briar probably wasn't the smartest move. =P

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 04:57 PM

View PostHellsaint, on 28 November 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

Lol I guess if anything this graph proves the trends of who is fighting who at least in part it seems that both IoJ and SoR have worked with BG against each other.

Who is worse than another, when they both hired the same merc to kill each other. /shrug sounds like a tragedy
  Stop posting these BS posts.  Oh noes a 3 server battle and 2 servers are attacking the same server at the moment... but werent before.  Yet, just before that, you might have been with Server A, against B and C came to help you (A)..  Should Server B make this same post you did?

THEY MUST BE TEAMING UP!!!!

Stop wasting bandwith!

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 05:03 PM

View PostYarz_Widow, on 28 November 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

As for select individuals on BG please keep it clean and stop using the mesmer glitches to try and take bay.
You could say the same for the select SoR individuals.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:11 PM

View PostConcerned_Player, on 28 November 2012 - 05:03 PM, said:

You could say the same for the select SoR individuals.
Bring us screenshots/video of them doing it (along with guild tags) so we can monitor and watch for it and report them ourselves.  I personally am not aware of any SoR glitching into Bay, but we are aware of SoR glitching into Hills.  Those members were removed from their guild and have subsequently been banned from GW2 completely on top of that.

I think the thing that has so many of the SoR people up in arms is the fact that this wasn't just a guild group doing this (like was the case on SoR glitching Hills).  It was the entire BG zerg on the BG BL at the time (roughly 30-40 strong during one attempt, mind you there were 4 attempts with this glitch in a 2 hour stretch).  Perhaps some of them were oblivious to the circumstances, but you can't tell me no one noticed the guy drop the portal outside the keep first and then glitch in to drop the second portal.  At least if you were trying to hide it from your realm mates, you would drop the portal inside first and hop the wall back out to drop the second portal in an attempt to make them think a mesmer was hidden inside.

In the end, it is what it is and we have to move on.  Let's all make an attempt to catch these fools and make these matches clean from here on out.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:40 PM

View PostLalnuir, on 28 November 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

There is nothing funnier than watching a mesmer glitch through bay wall and die before he can drop his portal then his whole guild run away. Silly IoJ.
Also having your whole zerg attacking green lake while we cap bay and red briar probably wasn't the smartest move. =P

View PostConcerned_Player, on 28 November 2012 - 05:03 PM, said:

You could say the same for the select SoR individuals.

Yarz Widow said:

As for select individuals on BG please keep it clean and stop using the mesmer glitches to try and take bay.
Here we have people from all 3 servers throwing baseless accusations at people from other servers saying server X is bad and they should feel bad. Now that we're all equally terrible horrible hacking servers of shame, can we all make up and move on with the match while the mods remove all evidence of this conversation?

This match is incredibly close and anyone can move for a second upset at this point in the week.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:05 AM

SoR making a comeback it looks like, closed the gap to 4k.

Cmon BG!!

edit because no score updates in a while

BG: 156177 +80
SOR 152516 +495
IOJ 139054 +120

Edited by bagsy, 29 November 2012 - 01:07 AM.





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