Sword Hammer Axe, on 30 November 2012 - 10:49 AM, said:
You're really making it difficult to argue. True, that cantrip part was admitted to be wrongly coded, but only the cantrip part. But because the cantrip part was wrong, I suddenly can't assume that the rest of the notes were right?
Yes, bugs exist, and of course mistakes are made, but if you just reply to every problem with "that COULD be wrong" or "that COULD be a lie" then you end up nowhere. How do you expect me to argue with that? It's like arguing with people who believe the moonlanding is fake. We have videos, pictures, eyewitnesses, different scientific readings, but people still call it fake because of some minor issues. They demand facts, we give them facts, but unless they've actually been on the moon themself it seems impossible to get through.
I'm not saying you should just take everything we're given as 100% truth. I'm saying you shouldn't go around denouncing every little thing just because mistakes can be made. You'll end up in the middle of nowhere.
You really are missing mine (and other people's) points. We all understand that Anet intended to increase rare/exotic drop rates. We also understand that programming is difficult work, and lots of bugs get introduced (Cantrip Mastery + Mistform, unintended increase to dye drop rates, accidental increase to ranger trap cooldowns, etc.).
When many people are starting to make the claim that rares and exotics seem to be dropping less instead of more (despite what they would have expected from the patch notes), the right response is to have a healthy amount of skepticism. Of course, their feelings aren't facts. Most people aren't keeping track of what is dropping for them in periods of farming. But given the trouble Anet has had with drop tables in the past (ie, dyes), it's not out of the question).
To then come into the thread and claim "They've changed the coding to make rares and exotics drop more frequently. Fact."
because that is what the patchnotes said is incredibly naive. That's not a fact. I'm not claiming that Anet lied to us. I never have.
As for how I expect you to argue with "Anet could be wrong"...I don't. Why do you feel you have to argue that? Many people are saying drop rates feel off. You claimed that can't possibly be true because the patch notes said otherwise. How is that even a position? Even just responding anecdotally with "no, I feel like I'm getting more rares/exotics since the patch notes" is a better position.