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[Tinkstar124]

Hi, I'm new to the forum but not gw2, my current set up only gives me 2-5 fps in wvwvw so obviously looking for a new build, had a look through this thread and some very pc friendly people on here, how ever a lot seem to be focused on $ and I'm in the uk so not much help, can any 1 help for British people or point me in be direction where there Is a thread or post for the uk  

All help is appreciated:) thank you kindly

Chris

Pc build to follow


Customizations:
CPU:  NEW! Intel Core i5 3570K
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CPU Overclocking:  4.3Ghz - Moderate Overclock
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CPU Cooler:  Xigmatek Loki SDS963
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Operating System:  Microsoft® Windows 8 Standard 64-bit
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Motherboard:  NEW! Asus P8Z77-V LX
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RAM:  8GB Corsair 1600mhz Vengeance (2x4GB)
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Hard Drive:  500GB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s
Included
Optical Drive:  22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA
Included
Graphics card:  NEW! NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB
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Sound card:  Onboard 7.1 Audio
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Case:  Xigmatek Asgard
£-25.10
PSU:  500W Xigmatek
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Warranty:  3 Year SureCare Warranty
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Product Subtotal: £603.90

If you hit re customise you can change the components on this website , which would help considerably or if you know of a cheaper website please suggest

i went for the cheapest case, do cases really make much of a difference? i do not care on how it looks its under the desk

does this sound all ok? according to the web site thats their cheapest option, so i am not expecting it to be the best just a lot better than i have.

your input is very valuable

chris

[Tinkstar124]

Links not worked at the bottom, http://www.dinopc.com/ this is the website I have been using as its been referred to me by a friend

[Quaker]

Cases don't make as much difference as some people think, particularly if you have a basic system without multiple hard drives or video cards. The main thing is proper airflow - and by that I mean "proper", not necessarily "HAF".
Of course, dust filters are nice - but you can always clean it out occasionally.
Of much lesser importance to the average user are things like tool-less mountings, LEDs, huge cases, etc.

You might want to consider getting Windows 7. Windows 8 has no real advantage for a non-touch screen desktop, and the Metro interface is annoying without one.

Edited by Quaker, 27 November 2012 - 04:42 PM.

[Tinkstar124]

the only thing i was thinking of changing is to a 120gb ssd which my friend says makes a massive difference. its an extra £12.00 and i have 1tb of external hdd which has all music and photos on. literally all that will be on the pc is gw2 star craft 2 and skype and wireless net work

but other than does this seem like it will run gw2? my current set up is set to minimum and gives me 2-5 fps  tested on the recent lost shores release, and it was a joke

thank you for your response about the case, i have made sure its got plenty of fans

chris

[SuperNova]

It's fine.  The cpu is good, the graphics card is mediocre but the price looks decent enough.

[Tinkstar124]

SuperNova, on 27 November 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

It's fine.  The cpu is good, the graphics card is mediocre but the price looks decent enough.

Would the next one up be significantly better and worth it?

[Tinkstar124]

The other graphics I can choose and the extra price....

   NEW! NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB  

   AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB  + £37.10

   NEW! NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB  + £64.60

   The others push it over £700 out of price thank you for your input folks I really appreciate it

Chris

[AlixIcebane]

the problem with the graphics card is the memory 1g is a bit short for games that have a high def texture option.
The 650 is not a bad card, do you have the option to get the pc without any graphics cards installed?

Regarding ssds you have to be very careful all drives are not equal. Some older intels were just plain bad, the new ones are much better. THe samsung 830 is being discontinued atm which means great prices and it's considered as one of the best drives out there.

The thing is that since you are building a desktop you can easily upgrade later

Edited by AlixIcebane, 28 November 2012 - 08:58 AM.

[SuperNova]

It's quite annoying but they only have the 2GB 7850's, though with that said it might still be worth another £37.

I wouldn't say it was "significantly better" at that price but it is a faster card with more memory so it will last that little bit longer.  A 7850 1 GB costs about £10 more than the 650 Ti and is a far superior card at those prices.

[Tinkstar124]

If I called and spoke to them what graphic card would you Reccomend, remember 600 was my budget but I'm clearly hitting 700 marker

And I'll ask about Samsung ssd, don't think it's an option....

Tinkstar124, on 28 November 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

The other graphics I can choose and the extra price....

   NEW! NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB  

   AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB  + £37.10

   NEW! NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB  + £64.60

   The others push it over £700 out of price thank you for your input folks I really appreciate it

Chris

Would the 660 be a lot better than the 7850???

Thank you so much for your help, no point spending 600£ if it means I'm not happy and another 100£ would mean I'm over joyed

[Tinkstar124]

Customizations:

CPU:  NEW! Intel Core i5 3570K

Included

CPU Overclocking:  4.3Ghz - Moderate Overclock

Included

CPU Cooler:  Xigmatek Loki SDS963

Included

Operating System:  Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Motherboard:  NEW! Asus P8Z77-V LX

Included

RAM:  8GB Corsair 1600mhz Vengeance (2x4GB)

Included

Hard Drive:  120GB SSD S-ATAII 3.0Gb/s

£12.30

Optical Drive:  22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA

Included

Graphics card:  NEW! NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB

£64.60

Sound card:  Onboard 7.1 Audio

Included

Case:  NEW! Zalman Z11 Plus

Included

PSU:  500W Xigmatek

Included

Warranty:  3 Year SureCare Warranty

Included


Product Subtotal: £705.90


This is what we are playing with? Any more suggestions?

[Zerk2012]

Tinkstar124, on 28 November 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Customizations:

CPU:  NEW! Intel Core i5 3570K

Included

CPU Overclocking:  4.3Ghz - Moderate Overclock

Included

CPU Cooler:  Xigmatek Loki SDS963

Included

Operating System:  Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Motherboard:  NEW! Asus P8Z77-V LX

Included

RAM:  8GB Corsair 1600mhz Vengeance (2x4GB)

Included

Hard Drive:  120GB SSD S-ATAII 3.0Gb/s

£12.30

Optical Drive:  22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA

Included

Graphics card:  NEW! NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB

£64.60

Sound card:  Onboard 7.1 Audio

Included

Case:  NEW! Zalman Z11 Plus

Included

PSU:  500W Xigmatek

Included

Warranty:  3 Year SureCare Warranty

Included


Product Subtotal: £705.90


This is what we are playing with? Any more suggestions?

Best advise I can give you do not get that power supply it's just to say the truth cheap/junk get the  600W Corsair CX
Good choice on the case change. Now the other problem 120GB SSD your going to fill that up really quick (if it's the sandisc stay away from that) if you have a SATA HDD that you can install and reformat in the new PC your fine if not I would go with the 500GB HDD. For the video card i'm a AMD fan so I would of picked the 7870 but disreguard that:) The operating system windows 7 HP good choice. For the CPU cooler with the 4.3 overclock on the processor I hope you have no heat problems I would spend the extra 7 and get the Xigmatek Prime SD1484 it has much better airflow (heat kills)
EDIT your going over budget the 7850 video card is a good one and will save a few bucks.
Also would you feel OK building your PC if so if you can link the exact PC you have now you may be able to reuse the HDD and CD/DVD player maby even the case and really build within your 600 budget also link your monitor or list what rezolution it runs at IE 1080p 900p whatever.

Edited by Zerk2012, 29 November 2012 - 01:35 AM.

[Tinkstar124]

Zerk2012, on 29 November 2012 - 01:08 AM, said:

Best advise I can give you do not get that power supply it's just to say the truth cheap/junk get the  600W Corsair CX
Good choice on the case change. Now the other problem 120GB SSD your going to fill that up really quick (if it's the sandisc stay away from that) if you have a SATA HDD that you can install and reformat in the new PC your fine if not I would go with the 500GB HDD. For the video card i'm a AMD fan so I would of picked the 7870 but disreguard that:) The operating system windows 7 HP good choice. For the CPU cooler with the 4.3 overclock on the processor I hope you have no heat problems I would spend the extra 7 and get the Xigmatek Prime SD1484 it has much better airflow (heat kills)
EDIT your going over budget the 7850 video card is a good one and will save a few bucks.
Also would you feel OK building your PC if so if you can link the exact PC you have now you may be able to reuse the HDD and CD/DVD player maby even the case and really build within your 600 budget also link your monitor or list what rezolution it runs at IE 1080p 900p whatever.

wow thank you for the input, kinda feel bummed that what i thought was better seems to come with more complications! but good to know before i make a mistake.

with regards to memory, i do not think i will need a lot i do not play more than star craft 2 or gw2 and if i stop playing ill just delete them. that is how i am, all music and photos are kept on a seperate external hard drive, which generally is not plugged in. would this be ok? i do not know more than its a 120GB SSD S-ATAII 3.0Gb/s

ill upgrade the fan, simple little thing to change, small price, big saving if it blows! so thank you.

if you think amd are ok ill happily drop £30 to save for other upgrades, again i do not know if £30 to makes a massive difference, if its minimal im sure its still a 1000 times better than my old 8yr pc i built my self.

i was thinking of handing down my old pc to a friend as he has nothing, and would like to play gw2 ( it will get him up and running ) but i will try and up load all the information i can, is there an easy way to find out all the information you would need? i have no problem taking it apart and rebuilding, as i built it my self ( a friend just made a buy list for me )

and ill find out my make of monitor ... do i just look on the back? i really am not good with all the tech stuff so i really do appreciate all your help.

if using my old machine will save me a lot of money or help me upgrade more, i will be very tempted.

again thank you !

[Tinkstar124]

choice of fans are

Zalman CNPS9500A LED Cooler Add £11.00

Xigmatek Dark Knight Nighthawk Edition SD1283 Add £18.00

Xigmatek Prime SD1484 Add £25.00

with regards to the SSD card this is the information on the web site states its a sanddisk, so ill stay way...

the cheapest option is... 500GB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s



Customizations:
CPU:  NEW! Intel Core i5 3570K
Included
CPU Overclocking:  4.3Ghz - Moderate Overclock
Included
CPU Cooler:  NEW! Xigmatek Dark Knight Nighthawk Edition SD1283
£18.00
Operating System:  Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Motherboard:  NEW! Asus P8Z77-V LX
Included
RAM:  8GB Corsair 1600mhz Vengeance (2x4GB)
Included
Hard Drive:  500GB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s
Included
Optical Drive:  22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA
Included
Graphics card:  AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB
£37.10
Sound card:  Onboard 7.1 Audio
Included
Case:  NEW! Zalman Z11 Plus
Included
PSU:  NEW! 550W Corsair VX
£12.40
Warranty:  3 Year SureCare Warranty
Included Product Subtotal: £696.50

[Zerk2012]

This is why I said that about that SSD read the reviews here besides being a old SATA II drive it has 23% 1 egg reviews. A SSD will speed up your boot times and load screens and that's it no real ingame playing boost.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820171545

That looks like a very solid build now you should have pleanty of cooling and the 7850 is perrty much even with a 560ti in performance. http://www.hwcompare...radeon-hd-7850/ So it should run the game very nice, with the OC of the CPU your ready to play the game perty much as good as it will play.
For the SSD you can always add a GOOD one later and reload the operating system, drivers, and a few games.
http://www.overclock...-Kit_44852.html

Edited by Zerk2012, 29 November 2012 - 11:32 PM.

[Tinkstar124]

Is the ram ok? For like 9-12 £ I I can get 300-400 MHz? Faster? Or Is the ram ok?

Thank you so much for your help I think I'm happy to purchase now, I may call and request the Samsung especially, if not is it easy to put it in my self?

[Zerk2012]

Tinkstar124, on 29 November 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

Is the ram ok? For like 9-12 £ I I can get 300-400 MHz? Faster? Or Is the ram ok?

Thank you so much for your help I think I'm happy to purchase now, I may call and request the Samsung especially, if not is it easy to put it in my self?

Everything looks good. No need to change anything unless you wish to get the quicker boot times using a SSD and yes a SSD is fairly easy to add Google how to add a SSD youtube. I really think you made a good choice even though you went over budget. Don't worry about the SSD it's no big deal so what if your PC boots in 10 seconds with a SSD or 25 or so without one.

Edited by Zerk2012, 30 November 2012 - 12:55 AM.

[Tinkstar124]

A friend has windows, so I'm spending a little bit extra on small stuff just because in still under £700, I you think the extras are bad then please say so and ill just save the money, I think this is the final time if you give me the ok really appreciate all your help, thank you again



CPU:  NEW! Intel Core i5 3570K

Included

CPU Overclocking:  4.3Ghz - Moderate Overclock

Included

CPU Cooler:  NEW! Xigmatek Dark Knight Nighthawk Edition SD1283

£18.00

Operating System:  No Operating System - I will install my own

£-59.00

Motherboard:  NEW! Asus P8Z77-V LX

Included

RAM:  NEW! 8GB Corsair 2133mhz Vengeance (2x4GB)

£14.50

Hard Drive:  Corsair 120GB Force3 SSD S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s

£46.50

Optical Drive:  22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA

Included

Graphics card:  AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB

£37.10

Sound card:  Onboard 7.1 Audio

Included

Case:  NEW! Zalman Z11 Plus

Included

PSU:  NEW! 550W Corsair VX

£12.40

Warranty:  3 Year SureCare Warranty

Included


Product Subtotal: £698.50