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#1 Leriel

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:50 AM

I am using shift as a dodge button because it's really easy for me to dodge this way.

The problem with it is that when i wanted to use shift to post a waypoint or item in chat, i would dodge first.

Just realized that if my chat window is active (ie when i pressed enter to type), shift obviously will not make me dodge.

#2 Omigawd

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:02 AM

I have the same problem, I bound my dodge to the Alt key, and can't split stacks without dodging.
Really wish they made those things keybindable instead of using fixed keys.

#3 Trei

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:06 AM

Have you tried using right shift instead?

#4 Galandil

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:08 AM

Try using the caps lock for dodge, after using it for 10 minutes I'll never go back to any other key. :)

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:21 AM

Rule#2: Double-tap.

Also goes for dodging.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:24 AM

View PostWaar Kijk Je Naar, on 28 November 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

Rule#2: Double-tap.

Also goes for dodging.

Sounds like a great way to fall in a jumping puzzle.

#7 Baron von Scrufflebutt

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:25 AM

Middle mouse button.
I struggled and struggled with dodging, but after binding it to the MMB, I can't imagine using anything else.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:25 AM

View PostWaar Kijk Je Naar, on 28 November 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

Rule#2: Double-tap.

Also goes for dodging.

And it lags, and you need to stop moving for a second and you can't smoothly in a opposite direction while moving,...

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:27 AM

View PostGalandil, on 28 November 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

Try using the caps lock for dodge, after using it for 10 minutes I'll never go back to any other key. :)
"hey, there!
"yo! When did you log in?"
"oh just a minute ago... 1 sec... aggro.."
-Capslockdodge-
"YA I WAS SAYING I JUST LOG IN A MINUTE AGO WASSUP?

"......... okay, calm down bro."

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

I used to have the same problem, so I re-bound dodge to the mouse wheel button and it's all been great since :P

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#11 Leriel

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

View PostTrei, on 28 November 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

Have you tried using right shift instead?
Using wasd for movement i would need to use second hand to press it :) Thanks for the suggestion though

View PostProtoss, on 28 November 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:

Middle mouse button.
I struggled and struggled with dodging, but after binding it to the MMB, I can't imagine using anything else.

View PostSheepski, on 28 November 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

I used to have the same problem, so I re-bound dodge to the mouse wheel button and it's all been great since :P
By middle mouse button do you mean wheel click? I thought it wasn't bindable in GW2?

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:55 AM

View PostTrei, on 28 November 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

"hey, there!
"yo! When did you log in?"
"oh just a minute ago... 1 sec... aggro.."
-Capslockdodge-
"YA I WAS SAYING I JUST LOG IN A MINUTE AGO WASSUP?

"......... okay, calm down bro."

Pretty much this lol. Every time I PUG I always warn beforehand "if I write in caps, it's because I have the dodge on caps lock, I'm not yelling at you." :D

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:00 PM

i thought i was the only one to still use the double tap. and as far as linking waypoints in chat, i thought that was left ctrl?

#14 Leriel

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:23 PM

View PostRickter, on 28 November 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

i thought i was the only one to still use the double tap. and as far as linking waypoints in chat, i thought that was left ctrl?
Ctrl is immediate send, shift is put into text box without sending.
Also, drawing on the map is shift+drag - no ctrl alternative as far as i'm aware.

Edited by Leriel, 28 November 2012 - 12:24 PM.


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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:25 PM

View PostLeriel, on 28 November 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

By middle mouse button do you mean wheel click? I thought it wasn't bindable in GW2?

I think you can't bind mouse button scroll up and down - but wheel click can be bound.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:26 PM

View PostTrei, on 28 November 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

"hey, there!
"yo! When did you log in?"
"oh just a minute ago... 1 sec... aggro.."
-Capslockdodge-
"YA I WAS SAYING I JUST LOG IN A MINUTE AGO WASSUP?

"......... okay, calm down bro."

Oh my gosh, ahahahaha. XD

I've actually gotten used to using the "v" key for dodging. It might be a little awkward at first, but it grows on you after a while.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:28 PM

Not using reprogrammable keyboards... do yourself a favor.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:30 PM

View PostSerDrak, on 28 November 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

I've actually gotten used to using the "v" key for dodging. It might be a little awkward at first, but it grows on you after a while.

But with dodge on v you can't actually strafe right AND dodge (d+v), unless you use the thumb to press v (and you risk to press the spacebar then).

The fact is that the pinky it's often sitting there on the keyboard doing nothing, so binding dodge on a key reachable by it it's way better imo than any other left hand dodge key.

View Postraspberry jam, on 28 November 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

Not using reprogrammable keyboards... do yourself a favor.

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I tried a Razer Nostromo pad. It's not bad, but after having switched to a Filco mechanical keyboard, I can't really go back to *any* membrane keyboard/keypad, it just doesn't feel right.

Edited by Galandil, 28 November 2012 - 12:31 PM.


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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:35 PM

I have it bound to every key on the keyboard.... I AM INVINCIBLE!

/Binit

#20 raspberry jam

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:39 PM

View PostGalandil, on 28 November 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

I tried a Razer Nostromo pad. It's not bad, but after having switched to a Filco mechanical keyboard, I can't really go back to *any* membrane keyboard/keypad, it just doesn't feel right.
It just feels right in my hand. I never understood why people prefer mechanical keyboards; they are severely annoying to type on for longer than ~3 hours (except switches that suck for gaming), and even though they last longer, I rarely have membrane keyboards break down on me. Anyway, I'm fairly sure that there are mechanical gameboards out there :)

#21 Galandil

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:47 PM

View Postraspberry jam, on 28 November 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

It just feels right in my hand. I never understood why people prefer mechanical keyboards; they are severely annoying to type on for longer than ~3 hours (except switches that suck for gaming), and even though they last longer, I rarely have membrane keyboards break down on me. Anyway, I'm fairly sure that there are mechanical gameboards out there :)

Huh? Mechanical keyboards have all switches as actuators. The force needed to press the keys is lower than any membrane keyboard, so they're less "fatiguing", and you get the tactical (at least) feedback when you press a key (I switched from a G510 Logitech keyboard, and many times I didn't get the tact. feedback when pressing a key).

I spend a lot of time at the pc not only for gaming, but for work, I type a lot and since I got the Filco, I am effectively less fatigued even after long sessions of typing.

And I've to disagree about the "mech. keyboards suck for gaming", I play better on the Filco than I was on the G510 or the Nostromo. Of course, there's an ergonomic argument, which is different for every player/hand (dimension of the palm, finger length, etc.), but I generally prefer a slight higher key height and less actuation force needed even when playing. :)

Edited by Galandil, 28 November 2012 - 12:48 PM.


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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:48 PM

I bought a new mouse with more buttons just for GW2. It was only $40 and it does me fine.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:56 PM

View PostLeriel, on 28 November 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

Using wasd for movement i would need to use second hand to press it :) Thanks for the suggestion though


By middle mouse button do you mean wheel click? I thought it wasn't bindable in GW2?

Yep, the scroll wheel click button :) I'm able to bind it at least.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:59 PM

View PostRickter, on 28 November 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

i thought i was the only one to still use the double tap. and as far as linking waypoints in chat, i thought that was left ctrl?

If I remember right, both work but left ctrl does it immediately and enters it immediately. But left shift links it in your chat box so you can type after it, backspace it and you have to manually hit enter.

And wow, you'd think the page would refresh after you hit something to quote it. I've been busy and got ninja'd a lot.

Edited by Darkobra, 28 November 2012 - 01:00 PM.


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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:02 PM

View PostGalandil, on 28 November 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Huh? Mechanical keyboards have all switches as actuators. The force needed to press the keys is lower than any membrane keyboard, so they're less "fatiguing", and you get the tactical (at least) feedback when you press a key (I switched from a G510 Logitech keyboard, and many times I didn't get the tact. feedback when pressing a key).

I spend a lot of time at the pc not only for gaming, but for work, I type a lot and since I got the Filco, I am effectively less fatigued even after long sessions of typing.

And I've to disagree about the "mech. keyboards suck for gaming", I play better on the Filco than I was on the G510 or the Nostromo. Of course, there's an ergonomic argument, which is different for every player/hand (dimension of the palm, finger length, etc.), but I generally prefer a slight higher key height and less actuation force needed even when playing. :)
Ah, you misunderstood me. What I meant was that there are mechanical switches that are good for gaming, but that they generally suck for typing, and vice versa. Meanwhile, membrane keyboards cost $5 and are decent for both things. I actually use a mechanical keyboard (Steelseries g6v2) myself, since my 10 years old IBM membrane keyboard ironically enough broke (not the keyboard itself, but the plug broke when I moved around my PC). But it is annoying to type on.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:13 PM

I don't understand why people want to bind dodging to Keyboard.
How are you going to press V/B/Shift/Control/etc when you have to dodge in corner direction(since it require 2 keyboard at the same time)?

I believe mouse nowadays has M3 and M4, and it is your best interest to use that for dodging.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:19 PM

View PostTrei, on 28 November 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

"hey, there!
"yo! When did you log in?"
"oh just a minute ago... 1 sec... aggro.."
-Capslockdodge-
"YA I WAS SAYING I JUST LOG IN A MINUTE AGO WASSUP?

"......... okay, calm down bro."

I was thinking the same when I read about the capslock dodge :P

I simply double click, haven't had problems with vistas and/or jumping puzzles yet.  Except when I dodged when I wanted but shouldn't...

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:20 PM

View PostItgotbinned, on 28 November 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

I have it bound to every key on the keyboard.... I AM INVINCIBLE!

/Binit

Ahh so is that why you like rolling off platforms into lava? :P

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:27 PM

View PostSheepski, on 28 November 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

Ahh so is that why you like rolling off platforms into lava? :P

Shhh! :P

I sneezed and head butted my keyboard, that's my excuse and im sticking to it!

OT: When I started playing GW2 I got out the trusty Belkin TE gamepad and the thumb button was perfect for dodging.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:31 PM

I use one of my 2 side buttons to dodge. The other side button is to pick up/talk




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