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T1NA: The Bluff, the Jade and the Sorrow (Round 3)

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#181 MrZero

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:43 PM

"same thing as last week" "No new opponents"

Aren't those the same things the TA guilds were saying?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:46 PM

View PostMrZero, on 04 December 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

"same thing as last week" "No new opponents"

Aren't those the same things the TA guilds were saying?
And they quit/disbanded within a month.

Edited by Beastgate, 04 December 2012 - 08:46 PM.


#183 Dark

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:50 PM

Any score updates?

#184 J E R I C O

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:59 PM

darkfall looks bad

#185 MrZero

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:59 PM

SOS 131K +185
JQ 108k +265
SBI 106k +245

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:05 PM

Wow, congratulation to JQ for an awesome push this weekend.  You guys have some suprising tactics, and your ability to move a large coordinated team behind the lines undetected had my scouts pulling their hair out!  Congrats on beating out SBI for second, noone can say you didnt earn it!

Keep up the great work everyone, I know for those of us in TSYM, as long as there are commanders to face, and teams to fight, WvW will always have something for us.  Its never been the novelty of new opponents, or the gold/loot/achievements we got from WVW, its the thrill of the hunt, the fury of the battle, and the move, counter move, counter counter move side of the game that will have us chomping at the bit for more each week.

/toast to the glory of the battle, and not the spoils of war!

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:43 PM

No!

  No fraternizing with the enemy!

  At any rate, keep an eye on yer yaks, guys.

  I just need 16 more for my title.

   I was so busy with SW Supply and Briar last nite, I was denied.

   Not this time.

   Tonite is Yak double cheeseburger night.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:48 PM

View PostVihar, on 04 December 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

No!

  No fraternizing with the enemy!

  At any rate, keep an eye on yer yaks, guys.

  I just need 16 more for my title.

   I was so busy with SW Supply and Briar last nite, I was denied.

   Not this time.

   Tonite is Yak double cheeseburger night.
Surgeon General's Warning -Yak Burgers, when consumed in excess of 10 may cause heart palpitation, arythmea, high blood pressure, diabeetus, and occasional death by TSYM.  Consult your physician if you are pregnant before eating Yak Burgers.

Edited by coronbale, 04 December 2012 - 09:48 PM.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:15 PM

View PostMrZero, on 04 December 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

"same thing as last week" "No new opponents"

Aren't those the same things the TA guilds were saying?

The TA guilds didn't say anything until they disbanded and when they did disband they cited competition not being there, WvW being shit, and bandwagoners being unappreciative trash who did nothing but harass people all match.  Not exactly the same thing as saying "no new opponents".  TA was bored of no competition while everyone else is bored with competing against the same people every week.

I didn't mind the ELO system originally but now I think it's shit.  First place should move up, second stays, third should drop.

#190 MrZero

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:35 PM

View PostVanu4life, on 04 December 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:


The TA guilds didn't say anything until they disbanded and when they did disband they cited competition not being there, WvW being shit, and bandwagoners being unappreciative trash who did nothing but harass people all match.  Not exactly the same thing as saying "no new opponents".  TA was bored of no competition while everyone else is bored with competing against the same people every week.

I didn't mind the ELO system originally but now I think it's shit.  First place should move up, second stays, third should drop.

I pretty sure they said all of the above. We are totally on the same page in regards to the ELO system too. I'm not sure how to fix it all other than the suggestion you just made.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:53 PM

View PostVihar, on 04 December 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

I was on SoS Borderlands last night.

  There was some pretty fantastic PVP for most of the evening, especially at Southwest Supply.

   You don't see many JQ'ers nowadays, but the ones left are very solid PVPers and put up some great fights.

   SoS, on the other hand...a couple of pointers for you....

1. Turtling doesn't work, not even when you are crammed in the alley of Briar. Stop trying it.

2. When you are facing 20 people in southwest supply, and you have 40  or more....JUST PUSH THROUGH THE ARCH! Instead, you just danced around outside until you were all dead except for the 5 or so that made it back to Bay keep.
from what i see you only want to complain about SOS because we are the new first place server.
The reason you are saying props to JQ is because they never beat you.
If we were the third seed you would be oh "props to sos" sorry but I cant help to notice how obvious your anger towards sos is since its like ever other post made by you

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:20 AM

View Postderek1240, on 04 December 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

from what i see you only want to complain about SOS because we are the new first place server.
The reason you are saying props to JQ is because they never beat you.
If we were the third seed you would be oh "props to sos" sorry but I cant help to notice how obvious your anger towards sos is since its like ever other post made by you

  No, I say that SoS sucks in PVP, because they do. End of story.

  JQ used to suck, too...but the mediocre PVPers are long gone, and only the dedicated, quality PVPers remain.

  I never had a bad word to say for the Titan Alliance because they not only had numbers, but they were very good.

  Since they broke up, every server has a core of quality players and some portion of subpar players.,....you know...transferees and front runners,....like you, for example.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:23 AM

View Postderek1240, on 04 December 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

from what i see you only want to complain about SOS because we are the new first place server.
The reason you are saying props to JQ is because they never beat you.
If we were the third seed you would be oh "props to sos" sorry but I cant help to notice how obvious your anger towards sos is since its like ever other post made by you
JQ won a few tier 1 match-ups and we did beat SBI at least once if I recall correctly and it wasn't even close but that was a different SBI than the beast we saw for quite some time. But seems Tier 1 has taken its toll again.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:53 AM

View PostVihar, on 05 December 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

  No, I say that SoS sucks in PVP, because they do. End of story.
I never had a bad word to say for the Titan Alliance because they not only had numbers, but they were very good.

Any idea if anyone from the alliance formerly known as Titan is present on SoS?

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:58 AM

Wow whatever happened to the NA wvw crew at sbi? Not enough showing up to defend the borderlands at least. This keeps happening for the last few days now. I won't be surprised if the server falls off T1.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:01 AM

View PostCombat Medic, on 05 December 2012 - 12:53 AM, said:

Any idea if anyone from the alliance formerly known as Titan is present on SoS?

From what I understand, Bits of it is.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:10 AM

View PostJanaFayestorm, on 05 December 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

Wow whatever happened to the NA wvw crew at sbi? Not enough showing up to defend the borderlands at least. This keeps happening for the last few days now. I won't be surprised if the server falls off T1.

Yeah we really do have a weak borderland presence (the NA crew)

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:17 AM

View PostVihar, on 05 December 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:



  No, I say that SoS sucks in PVP, because they do. End of story.


Lol...


OT: Looking forward to the rest of the week.

Edited by Saruon, 05 December 2012 - 01:19 AM.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:52 AM

View PostVihar, on 05 December 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

  No, I say that SoS sucks in PVP, because they do. End of story.

  JQ used to suck, too...but the mediocre PVPers are long gone, and only the dedicated, quality PVPers remain.

  I never had a bad word to say for the Titan Alliance because they not only had numbers, but they were very good.

  Since they broke up, every server has a core of quality players and some portion of subpar players.,....you know...transferees and front runners,....like you, for example.
Its funny that you can make an assumption of my player skill and how long ive been on the server based on a post I made. You must be a wizard.
The fact that you can make such a huge claim that all SoS players are bad is clear show of bad sportsmanship.
but I see youre repping your server proudly lmao

Edited by derek1240, 05 December 2012 - 01:56 AM.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:01 AM

View PostVihar, on 05 December 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

  No, I say that SoS sucks in PVP, because they do. End of story.

SoS becomes top rated WvW PvP server and they suck at PvP.  I feel bad then for how terrible every other server is at PvP then.

#201 Kleenex

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:21 AM

According to this thread http://www.guildwars...w-a-flashpoint/

WM who has 1000 players is down to 50 don't know if active WvW or just members. Regardless to say that is a huge drop in numbers.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:23 AM

View PostFrozyyn, on 05 December 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:

From what I understand, Bits of it is.

Bits? PRX (arguably former TA's largest guild), RMA, DiE and ELTE (that are not playing PS2). If ULTD moved to SoS the server would have the bulk of TA that are still playing GW2 in an organized way.

There was a time where TA was accused of stacking on Blackgate. Well, of those that moved to BG when TA broke ...

TRF - Quit, playing PS2
DiE - Transferred to SoS
ELTE - Transferred to SoS
Gin - Transferred to Seafarer's Rest (EU)
DtD - No clue. I think they basically quit GW2

And there you have it. It's weird to hear someone praise the former TA and say SoS sucks in PVP in the same sentence. Something does not compute.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:25 AM

View PostPusha, on 05 December 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:

SoS becomes top rated WvW PvP server and they suck at PvP.  I feel bad then for how terrible every other server is at PvP then.

The problem is that SoS didn't become top rated in WvW due solely to skill, it's more because of coverage. We've had the numbers and the time coverage to keep edging it out. I'm not saying SoS is devoid of skill, or that SoS sucks in PvP, but skill isn't the main reason we became top rated.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:42 AM

View Postben911993, on 05 December 2012 - 02:25 AM, said:

The problem is that SoS didn't become top rated in WvW due solely to skill, it's more because of coverage. We've had the numbers and the time coverage to keep edging it out. I'm not saying SoS is devoid of skill, or that SoS sucks in PvP, but skill isn't the main reason we became top rated.

To be fair, skill isn't the reason anyone became top rated.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:44 AM

Honestly, SoS is only up there because our most PEAK time coincides with everyone else's lowest pop times. (Oceanic ftw).

Due to that, PRX etc transferred here for better coverage.

Take that coverage away and we would probably be T3 or 4.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:51 AM

View PostRumstein, on 05 December 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

Honestly, SoS is only up there because our most PEAK time coincides with everyone else's lowest pop times. (Oceanic ftw).

Due to that, PRX etc transferred here for better coverage.

Take that coverage away and we would probably be T3 or 4.
........like all other servers rofl

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:54 AM

View PostRumstein, on 05 December 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

Honestly, SoS is only up there because our most PEAK time coincides with everyone else's lowest pop times. (Oceanic ftw).

Due to that, PRX etc transferred here for better coverage.

Take that coverage away and we would probably be T3 or 4.

You can say that about any server so I don't see the point "if they don't have coverage they don't won't be tier 1".  So, if you're in tier 1 your server obviously has coverage, it's just that some coverage is better skilled and more dedicated.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:39 AM

View PostPusha, on 05 December 2012 - 02:54 AM, said:

You can say that about any server so I don't see the point "if they don't have coverage they don't won't be tier 1".  So, if you're in tier 1 your server obviously has coverage, it's just that some coverage is better skilled and more dedicated.

I think "tactic" is a better word than "skill".

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:41 AM

View PostVihar, on 05 December 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

  No, I say that SoS sucks in PVP, because they do. End of story.

  JQ used to suck, too...but the mediocre PVPers are long gone, and only the dedicated, quality PVPers remain.

  I never had a bad word to say for the Titan Alliance because they not only had numbers, but they were very good.

  Since they broke up, every server has a core of quality players and some portion of subpar players.,....you know...transferees and front runners,....like you, for example.

7 days ago you were behaving all smug, sinking the boot into SoS for not putting up a fight while SBI was 25k in front. You assured me that you were not being a poor sportsman and you did this to anyone that doesn't put up a fight. If that were true then you should be giving a good look at yourself right now, instead of trying to diminish the success of your opponent.

If coverage was SoS's only strength, we'd still be in tier 2.

From my perspective, when I play there are clever tactics constantly being used by many guilds on the server. When the battles are equal numbers (or they're out manned), they use these tactics to their advantage to both out think and out play their opponents. Despite our attendance being the lowest that it's ever been( same for all servers in WvW), SoS has still been working together as a team around the clock, 24 hours a day, no matter how few.

You've got to do the best you can with the hand you're dealt, and if you can't win then the other team deserves full credit. I would still be saying the same words if we were 200k behind, a lot of us on SoS have been there before, we know what it's like.

Edited by Cirus, 05 December 2012 - 03:45 AM.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:47 AM

View PostLavaSquid, on 05 December 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

I think "tactic" is a better word than "skill".

Being able to carry out and execute tactics is a skill.




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