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#31 Gerroh

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:45 AM

This week is looking significantly more separated than the last week(Though it is only the beginning of Monday).
It's a shame, because I like close matches(Like last week), where you have to fight for every bit of ground you can take. That said, what's really puzzling me is why IoJ seems to be focusing on Blackgate. I know I sound biased here, but it'd make more strategic sense to go after SoR to try to secure 2nd place, wouldn't it?

Whatever the end result is, I'm enjoying myself, and both SoR and IoJ have been putting up a decent fight so far.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:59 AM

View PostGerroh, on 03 December 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

This week is looking significantly more separated than the last week(Though it is only the beginning of Monday).
It's a shame, because I like close matches(Like last week), where you have to fight for every bit of ground you can take. That said, what's really puzzling me is why IoJ seems to be focusing on Blackgate. I know I sound biased here, but it'd make more strategic sense to go after SoR to try to secure 2nd place, wouldn't it?

Whatever the end result is, I'm enjoying myself, and both SoR and IoJ have been putting up a decent fight so far.

I applaud them for coming after us. The goal, after all, is to win. The closer their score is to First place, the more rating they gain. They can do the same to the 2nd place team, but they would not gain as much rating. Coming after 1st place is a surefire way to stay in a tier. They'll come back strong the rest of the week. I guarantee it.

Edited by Corsair, 05 December 2012 - 09:06 AM.
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:48 AM

View PostGerroh, on 03 December 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

This week is looking significantly more separated than the last week(Though it is only the beginning of Monday).
It's a shame, because I like close matches(Like last week), where you have to fight for every bit of ground you can take. That said, what's really puzzling me is why IoJ seems to be focusing on Blackgate. I know I sound biased here, but it'd make more strategic sense to go after SoR to try to secure 2nd place, wouldn't it?

Whatever the end result is, I'm enjoying myself, and both SoR and IoJ have been putting up a decent fight so far.

Why play for second?

SoR seems to spend more time in IoJ bl than black gate bl but that is because Hills is 100 times better than bay.
Also IoJ night time guilds seem to spend more time on sor bl than black gates.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:05 PM

View PostLalnuir, on 03 December 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

Why play for second?

Because IoJ hasn't got a hope in hell for first place. If they continue what they're doing now, they're going to end up third with (probably)Blackgate in first.

No offense, to IoJ, I just doubt IoJ will catch up to Blackgate's lead.

Edited by Gerroh, 03 December 2012 - 01:05 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:40 PM

Everyones playing Planetside2. It's a pretty fun game and more or less what WvW brings except in FPS-land.

The PS2's new game smell will wear off in a few weeks, right around the big patches planned in Jan/Feb, with Feb apparently being the big WvW update.

I'd expect free transfers to end in Feb at the latest, if not sometime in Jan.
So make sure you are settled on your server of choice by then, and know who might come out of the woodwork later on.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 03:29 PM

View PostCake is Cake, on 03 December 2012 - 07:26 AM, said:

* him for trying to steer the conversation in this thread into something actually worth discussing



And it matters what that only one person had it?  It's not like the people who didn't have the buff on IoJ had anymore allies than the one person who did, all it shows is that they've been downed once since they got it.

Bashing the video is something worth discussing, are you serious? And yes it does matter that no outmanned buffs were seen until the assault was basically over. Not Thais fault IoJ can't defend an outlook.

Edited by pot, 03 December 2012 - 03:32 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 03:36 PM

OMG, ROUND THREE!!! YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME...literally. Good fights out there guys, keep it up. OH, and you guys on SOR from SIN 'i love you man', remember Keygen from Aion? ...anyone?

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 06:55 PM

No good vid from today's shot but at least we got overlook yet again and flipping all EBG to green :)

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:39 PM

View Postpot, on 03 December 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

Bashing the video is something worth discussing, are you serious?

You are misinterpreting me. I'm saying discussing WvW is something worth discussing, as opposed to what was going on before that post, and you still seem to have a hard time understanding what an outmanned buff is.

I'm not criticizing the video or BG attacking us, but there's no logic in thinking that IoJ had any kind of significant presence anywhere in that video.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

There's multiple reasons people could not be playing right now.

- Lack of WvW incentive.
- Holidays. (Its amazing to think some people have families they want to spend time with isn't it?)
- New games being released. ( Such as Planetside 2.)
- College Finals this week and next for most. <-- ( I fit here.)

Maybe IoJ has a lot of students?

Edited by EPIC Mara, 03 December 2012 - 07:44 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:43 PM

first time posting, not sure if it is legit to post this here.
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players from sor and ioj doing everything together, including fighting against BG, I am glad to see that.
What could you possibly do with a mesmer friend from another server? well...if i had one, hmmm, I might hide the fugitive in a corner at my garrison and hey I've checked, it's all clear.
of course, it was me
I don't normally oppose friends in different servers as long as they don't harm the server. But we won't know what they are doing when nobody sees.

but I mean? if you really want to do everything together, why don't you just get a free transfer?
It is not costly at all. Do you really love SOR soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:46 AM

View PostInterSlayer, on 03 December 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

Everyones playing Planetside2. It's a pretty fun game and more or less what WvW brings except in FPS-land.

The PS2's new game smell will wear off in a few weeks, right around the big patches planned in Jan/Feb, with Feb apparently being the big WvW update.

I'd expect free transfers to end in Feb at the latest, if not sometime in Jan.
So make sure you are settled on your server of choice by then, and know who might come out of the woodwork later on.
I can definitely see planetside 2 getting stale and boring for people who got bored of gw2, but I doubt a large number of them would go back to gw2 wvw which always has amounted to twenty four hour coverage if you want your server to win.  I remember the old days when IoJ would be getting destroyed by tier 1 servers like ET and watching as people no longer would log into wvw.  This made the wvw experience for the rest of us who logged in kind of horrible as far as not having the man power to hold a supply camp let alone a tower or keep.  Planetside 2 doesn't really share that problem.  I play terran republic on a server where we are the underdogs and have experienced many times where we own nothing on a certain planet and make a push and have a great time.  Planetside 2 is less about winning and more about having fun in whatever way you see fit (infantry, tanks,c4ed flashes, or air).  I haven't had as much fun with a game since bf2142 and I am heavily biased against SoE (oldtime swg pre-cu player).  I still don't trust SoE's management, but their developers know how to make great games.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 02:32 AM

Finals for me. Have played 5+ days a week since back before IoJ made the brief T1 appearance; haven't logged on at all since Friday this week. May go as long as all of this week and next, as EPIC Mara mentions, depending on other work.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:03 AM

wvw was action packed last night

Edited by DullInteger, 04 December 2012 - 11:39 AM.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:54 AM

View PostEPIC Mara, on 03 December 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

There's multiple reasons people could not be playing right now.

- Lack of WvW incentive.
- Holidays. (Its amazing to think some people have families they want to spend time with isn't it?)
- New games being released. ( Such as Planetside 2.)
- College Finals this week and next for most. <-- ( I fit here.)

Maybe IoJ has a lot of students?
can i add one more for upcoming december event?
for those play fps, battlefield 3 aftermath is now available XD
it might get my attention for quite sometime considering they have new maps and game mode...

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 05:24 AM

"players from sor and ioj doing everything together, including fighting against BG, I am glad to see that."

Well, to be honest if BG is 1st by a big margin I completely expect the 2nd and 3rd place to have some "focus", wipe out as many holdings as they can and then spend the rest of the match-up punching each other over 'who gets 1st.
That to some extent happened quite a bit for a the first few match-ups and kept BG's PPT down to a much lower level than it would have been otherwise. Not so much in this one, but theres other factors at play as well for population.

But meh, I'm a Blackgate OG and seen the worst anyone's got, probably given it back a few times too...

Outmanned buff? = Target rich environment of bag farming + pack arrow carts & bolt throwers
No keep? = Target rich environment of bag farming + pack rams & catapults
Outmanned & No keep = Get smart, learn to ninja... pack ninjas

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:11 PM

View PostMuhk, on 04 December 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

"players from sor and ioj doing everything together, including fighting against BG, I am glad to see that."

Well, to be honest if BG is 1st by a big margin I completely expect the 2nd and 3rd place to have some "focus", wipe out as many holdings as they can and then spend the rest of the match-up punching each other over 'who gets 1st.
That to some extent happened quite a bit for a the first few match-ups and kept BG's PPT down to a much lower level than it would have been otherwise. Not so much in this one, but theres other factors at play as well for population.

But meh, I'm a Blackgate OG and seen the worst anyone's got, probably given it back a few times too...

Outmanned buff? = Target rich environment of bag farming + pack arrow carts & bolt throwers
No keep? = Target rich environment of bag farming + pack rams & catapults
Outmanned & No keep = Get smart, learn to ninja... pack ninjas

Outmanned only means i get more loot when i kill you and that i have plenty of targets.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:21 PM

I don't get you ioj and bg people. I loaded a catapult full of christmas cookies and when I launch them at you to catch and eat you run out of range. Please come back :( kthxbai

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 09:18 PM

View PostCharliePrince, on 02 December 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

you notice how every single post in this thread is from BLACKGATE talking about how much "fun" it is? that pretty much tells you everything you need to know

nobody's having fun for a month now in Janthir. it's not fun when the population is severely imbalanced and guilds are leaving every single week. and you simply do not have players that can even fill 1 map


you should make a topic the fate of isle of janthir :)

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:52 PM

I thought we where supposed to play different servers every week. what's up with that?

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:07 PM

View PostPiteous, on 04 December 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

I thought we where supposed to play different servers every week. what's up with that?

Ratings have stabilized because servers are far less volatile. A server going up or down, especially in the upper and lower tiers, has become less common. This can be attributed to a typical curve where the highest and lowest ratings in each region can be considered outliers. The highest concentrations of ratings within one standard deviation are under the largest portion of the curve giving middle-tiers (3-6) the highest potential to change with servers going up and down from week to week. The bottom of Tier 6 and the top of Tier 3 being a relative wall where a lot of change is required in order for them to move upward or downward, respectively. So unless a server overperforms and blows out a closely rated opponent, or a server throws a match and doesn't perform within the algorithm of score ratios that their rating projects, servers will experience minimal change in the current state.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:51 PM

View PostLinfang, on 04 December 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

I don't get you ioj and bg people. I loaded a catapult full of christmas cookies and when I launch them at you to catch and eat you run out of range. Please come back :( kthxbai

A cookie went in my eye :(

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:32 AM

View Postiusehaxs, on 04 December 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

you should make a topic the fate of guild wars 2 :)

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:11 AM

LotD has been having a blast these last few weeks. Thanks to SoR and IoJ for coming out.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:01 AM

View Posttriniyurit, on 03 December 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

first time posting, not sure if it is legit to post this here.
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players from sor and ioj doing everything together, including fighting against BG, I am glad to see that.
What could you possibly do with a mesmer friend from another server? well...if i had one, hmmm, I might hide the fugitive in a corner at my garrison and hey I've checked, it's all clear.
of course, it was me
I don't normally oppose friends in different servers as long as they don't harm the server. But we won't know what they are doing when nobody sees.

but I mean? if you really want to do everything together, why don't you just get a free transfer?
It is not costly at all. Do you really love SOR soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much?

IMO why should you care how they come up to you. whatever are in front just fight them all.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:47 AM

Go home SoR, you're drunk. You guys can have Greenlake now. Held this baby for the past 2 hours with a gaping hole in the wall. Good times were had all around. :)

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:45 PM

SoR needs an active oceanic guilds to counteract Blackgate's. If IoJ could help SoR fight Blackgate, it would be a more interesting fight, since BG seems to be able to fight on two fronts with no issues. SoR can't field an army to counteract BG and IoJ at the same time, but we can definitely take the 2nd place and that is what is happening. So the fight is for the second place, and it should be for the 1st.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:32 PM

View PostSpeznaz, on 05 December 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

SoR needs an active oceanic guilds to counteract Blackgate's. If IoJ could help SoR fight Blackgate, it would be a more interesting fight, since BG seems to be able to fight on two fronts with no issues. SoR can't field an army to counteract BG and IoJ at the same time, but we can definitely take the 2nd place and that is what is happening. So the fight is for the second place, and it should be for the 1st.

IoJ did beat SoR last week indicating that they have every ability to be a better server if they put in the effort. Poaching Oceanics from IoJ, their strongest time zone, is not the solution. Taking those guilds would make IoJ plummet in ranking and you would effectively be killing a server, not to mention making in a 1v1 not a 1v1v1 since IoJ wouldn't have any presence. Finding guilds in lower brackets that are looking for higher tier servers with more activity is likely your best bet. What you are implying now is that everyone should come over to SoR so that you can beat "Big Bad Blackgate" when that is the opposite of what should be done. Blackgate doesn't have incredible coverage, but when it comes down to it we put in the long hours and we do the boring things like running yaks and repairing walls. Take an introspective look at yourselves as a server before you attempt to take the only thing that is keeping IoJ competitive.

Edited by RivenTheValorous, 05 December 2012 - 07:33 PM.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:48 PM

I don't think that's what he's saying. I believe he's essentially saying IoJ should ignore SoR territory and 2v1 Blackgate.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:51 PM

View PostSpeznaz, on 05 December 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

SoR needs an active oceanic guilds to counteract Blackgate's. If IoJ could help SoR fight Blackgate, it would be a more interesting fight, since BG seems to be able to fight on two fronts with no issues. SoR can't field an army to counteract BG and IoJ at the same time, but we can definitely take the 2nd place and that is what is happening. So the fight is for the second place, and it should be for the 1st.
Well you guys definitely have us heavily outnumbered in all of north american prime time, it's just oceanic where SoR tends to fall off the map. As I've said in the past.

Rendon said:

Start recruiting (or don't stop, I saw an SoS player make you guys a thread). I love fighting SoR, its a great server and I'd hate to see you guys fall down the ladder.
Still applies.




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