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#1 Kairosius

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 02:19 AM




The Elder Scrolls
...the greatest single-player roleplaying experience.

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This is thread is dedicated to all things Elder Scrolls. This is the place to discuss about past Elder Scroll games. Feel free to post everything Elder Scrolls related.  Do you have an entertaining in-game story that you would like to share? What Elder Scrolls game is your favorite? What are your favorite mods? Do you have any vista screenshots of the environments in the games? Who's your favorite NPC? Do you show mercy on your Adoring Fan? What type of race is your favorite? Do you have a favorite class? A favorite custom class perhaps? Do you have some Elder Scrolls nonsense that you would like to share (crazy screenshots, videos, and etc.)? Want to talk about the vast lore that this universe has? Drink some skooma, go crazy, and POST!



Regarding the MMO under development by Zenimax Online Studios

Yes there is a chance that there is an Elder Scrolls MMO in development; however, it is not going to be TES: V. They are going to be completely separate games. Elder Scrolls V is being developed by Bethesda Game Studios and the unannounced MMO is being developed by Zenimax Online Studios. The high possibility of it being an Elder Scrolls MMO is plausible because Interplay is already making a Fallout MMO, and elderscrollsonline.com has been registered.



The Elder Scrolls themes and videos:

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Theme, by Jeremy Soule
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Theme, by Jeremy Soule
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Announcement Theme
The Imperial Guard Song
Triumphant Execution of the Adoring Fan
Adoring Fan Deaths
Dan Bull - Take Me To Oblivion (feat. Baron Samedi) [an open letter to Bethesda Softworks]

Elder Scrolls websites:

The Elder Scrolls official website
The Elder Scrolls forums
Bethblog
The UESP
GameInformer Skyrim Hub




S K Y R I M
Release: 11/11/11

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L O R E
A special thanks to the UESP for providing this information.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Trailer Dialogue

You should have acted.
They're already here.
The Elder Scrolls told of their return.
Their defeat was merely delay
Til the time after Oblivion opened,
When the sons of Skyrim would spill their own blood.
But no-one wanted to believe.
Believe they even existed.
And when the truth finally dawns:
It dawns in fire.
But,
There's one they fear.
In their tongue, he's Dovahkiin: Dragon Born!


Several Lines from the tongues of the Dragons (was on the back of GameInformer cover).
The underlined lyrics are used in the Skyrim theme song.

Dovahkiin Dovahkiin
Naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal
Ahrk fin norok paal graan
Fod nust hon zindro zaan
Dovahkiin Fah hin kogaan mu draal


Ahrk fin kel lost prodah
Do ved viing ko fin krah
Tol fod zeymah win kein meyz fundein
Alduin feyn do jun
kruziik vokun staadnau
voth aan bahlok wah diivon fin lein

...which translates as...

Dragonborn Dragonborn
By his honor is sworn
To keep evil forever at bay
And the fiercest foes rout
When they hear triumph's shout
Dragonborn for your blessing we pray

And the scrolls have fortold
Of black wings in the cold
That when brothers wage war come unfurled
Alduin bane of kings
Ancient shadow unbound
With a hunger to swallow the world


Way of the Voice, The Thu'um

A long practiced spiritual form of Nordic magic, also known as the Tongues, that is based on their worship of the Wind as a personification of Kynareth. Through the use of the Voice the power of a Nord can be formed into a thu'um, or shout - which has a large variety of applications (anything from sharpening blades to a long range weapon). Master Voices (known simply as Tongues) have legendary, and often unbelievable powers, including talking to people of hundreds of miles away or teleportation. The most powerful masters must even be careful whenever they speak, as their voice can cause great destruction and they are commonly gagged.
During the Conquest of Morrowind, the Nordic war chiefs were also Tongues (Derek the Tall, Jorg Helmborg, Hoag Merkiller). They needed no typical siege weapons when attacking a city as they merely used the Voice to break down the city gate and allow their armies to storm in. The future of the Tongues was forever changed by the most powerful Tongue, Jurgen Windcaller, also better known as the Calm. Jurgen converted to a pacifist and refused to use the Voice for any martial purposes. In a confrontation with 17 other tongues he reportedly swallowed the Shouts of the 17 for three days until they lay exhausted, later to become his followers.
Today, all Tongues live secluded lives on the highest peaks of Skyrim in tough conditions and contemplation, and have only spoken to announce the destiny of the great Tiber Septim (who later created an Imperial College of the Voice in Markarth, returning the Voice to the art of warfare).


Talos, Tiber Septim, the Dragonborn

Heir to the Seat of Sundered Kings, Talos is the most important hero-god of Mankind. He conquered all of Tamriel and ushered in the Third Era (and the Third Empire). Also called Ysmir, 'Dragon of the North'. One of the Nine Divines, the major gods of Tamriel. Less prominent sects, such as the Talos Cult have been inspired by his apotheosis.

Akatosh, Dragon God of Time

Akatosh (Auri-El to the Aldmer and Alduin to the Nords) is the chief deity of the Nine Divines (the prescribed religious cults of Cyrodiil and its provinces), and one of two deities found in every Tamrielic religion (the other is Lorkhan), save only the Dunmeri religion of the Tribunal of self-made gods. His avatar is a dragon. He is generally considered to be the first of the Gods to form in the Beginning Place; after his establishment, other spirits found the process of being easier and the various pantheons of the world emerged. He is the ultimate God of the Cyrodiilic Empire, where he embodies the qualities of endurance, invincibility, and everlasting legitimacy. He is the patron of The Akatosh Chantry, the religious order devoted to the worship and glorification of Akatosh.
Most traces of Akatosh disappeared from ancient Chimer legends during their so-called 'exodus', primarily due to that god's association and esteem with the Altmeri. However, several aspects of Akatosh which seem important to the mortal races, namely immortality, historicity, and genealogy, have conveniently resurfaced in Almalexia, the most popular of Morrowind's divine Tribunal; as a mother-figure, she also embodies the idea of being a progenitor (albeit a female rather than male one). So one could say that, at least, the qualities of Akatosh are not entirely neglected among the Dunmer, even if his name is.
Akatosh was involved in the forging of the Covenant with the new Empire of humanity, and his blood was mystically joined with Alessia and her heirs. The Amulet of Kings was the primary token of this patronage, and it allowed the new Empire of Cyrodiil to benefit from the stabilizing influence of White Gold Tower, maintaining the barrier between Mundus and the Planes of Oblivion. When that barrier was threatened during the Oblivion Crisis, Martin Septim was able to summon Akatosh's spirit and transform himself into the avatar of Akatosh, which appeared in the shape of a giant dragon made of fire. This avatar dragon defeated Mehrunes Dagon, reestablishing order in Tamriel. The avatar transformed into a statue, now located inside the ruined Temple of the One.
Akatosh created Auriel's Shield and Auriel's Bow.

Alduin, Nordic World Eater

Alduin is the Nordic variation of Akatosh, and only superficially resembles his counterpart in the Eight Divines. For example, Alduin's sobriquet, 'the world eater', comes from myths that depict him as the horrible, ravaging firestorm that destroyed the last world to begin this one. Nords therefore see the god of time as both creator and harbinger of the apocalypse. He is not the chief of the Nordic pantheon (in fact, that pantheon has no chief; see Shor) but its wellspring, albeit a grim and frightening one.

From the Skyrim Lore Compendium Thread, special thanks to Lady Nerevar.

Pocket Guide to the Empire, 1st edition - I've linked the Skyrim section, but Cyrodiil and the rest of the guide is well worth reading. Its heavily bias pro-Skyrim and pro-Empire, but it gives us some of the best insights into Skyrim culture and history.
Pocket Guide to the Empire, 3rd edition - more recent, with info about history and Skyrim events at the end of the 3rd era.
Children of the Sky - general information on Nord culture and good info on Thu'um.
Frontier, Conquest, and Accommodation - describes some early Nordic history.
Five Songs of King Wulfharth- Summaries of Nordic legends, more mythological than historical. Valuable for their interpretation of important Tamrielic events. The Acrturian Heresy is its sequel, and also worth a read.
Sovngarde - the Nordic view of the afterlife.
Races of Tamriel: Nord - contains descriptions of Nords from various games, pictures of them, and a comprehensive list of their gods.

The following links were written by Michael Kirkbride, a contractor for Bethesda, and have not appeared in game.
Seven Fights of the Aldudagga - a series of Nordic legends. Great for mythology and Nordic culture, particularly the nature of Alduin.
On the Nords' Lack of a Creation Myth - an interview with a Nord about their mythology. Again, a good cultural indicator.
Shor, Son of Shor - a theoretical creation [hi]story.

C O N C E P T - A R T


S C R E E N S H O T S


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Edited by Kairosius, 25 February 2011 - 01:02 AM.


#2 aurora2

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:37 AM

I love Oblivion so much lol :D
If TES 5 is going to be like Oblivion, but with better graphics and much more new quests, i will be happy with it ^^

I can always laugh at the Oblivion videos on youtube :D

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:56 AM

I would definitely keep my eyes out for an announcement on a new Elder Scrolls game. I have only really ever played Oblivion, but I've played many hours in it, and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Judging by what they did with Oblivion, they should do great with this one!! :D

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 04:07 PM

Oblivion and Morrowind are two of my favorite games... spent a lot of hours wandering around that vast land(fast travel - never!).

Nice topic btw, it's answered the questions I had about TES V and MMO.

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 05:02 PM

<3 <3 <£ Morrowind and Oblivion...in hindsight, as much as I enjoyed Oblivion...Morrowind was something special! Such good fun!

I heard about the Elder Scrolls mmo rumour....if it's true...they best start getting inspiration from Arenanet, because GW2 is going to be the new benchmark in mmorpg's if you ask me.

As much as I would love to see an Elder Scrolls mmo, and if its true, it'll probably be years away anyway...I hope they make it something truely awe-inspiring, since the Elder Scrolls has fantastic lore as well. I was always an Imperial! Which funnily enough, reminds me a bit of humans in Tyria.

To add:

My Morrowind character:
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My Oblivion character:
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I spent ages and ages and ages re-working my Oblivion chars face, and still never got it the way I wanted lol!

Edited by ~PolarisNova~, 16 September 2010 - 06:32 PM.


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Posted 16 September 2010 - 06:03 PM

This is probably a good place to mention that the female Khajitt voice is how I imagine female Charr sound.

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 07:21 PM

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Oblivion did lose something along the way from Morrowind, didn't it? The only thing that kept me were the long horseback strolls in the forrests between towns. TES V should better be at least a Morrowind with Oblivion graphics !

Edited by Rhododendron, 16 September 2010 - 07:47 PM.


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Posted 16 September 2010 - 07:43 PM

I only played Morrowind (and I liked it). Btw was Morrowind's story only on Vvardenfell? I don't remember the Morrowind map being as big as the pic in the OP suggests?

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 07:48 PM

That is the Oblivion map!

Aaaah, wait. there is the Morrowind island in the top right corner!

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 07:49 PM

Rhododendron said:

That is the Oblivion map!

I mean the pink area marked as Morrowind. It wasn't that big in the eponymous game.

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 07:54 PM

Morrowind is still the game of my life.

And it's complete speculation that TES V will be set in Skyrim. They bought the domain names for various things, it could be anything.

I'd personally like Tamriel itself as the setting for TES V.

We do know a bit though about how the world has changed. Morrowind has been utterly destroyed by Daedra, Argonians w. giant floating castle (slaves revolt ftw), it's own volcano, and the Nord. The Tribunal was pwned, Vivec was cast down like a dog, and Vvardenfell is sadly barely inhabitable. The empire fell apart obviously after Oblivion, all connection were cut with the other regions and everyone just did their own thing.

It's going to be a very different world.

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 07:59 PM

The Nords and Khajit remind me of the Norn and the Charr lol!

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:02 PM

~PolarisNova~ said:

The Nords and Khajit remind me of the Norn and the Charr lol!
Guild Wars and TES have so many similarities it's not even funny.

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:21 PM

Edge said:

Guild Wars and TES have so many similarities it's not even funny.

The big differences for me are...

- The dragons are actually good guys in Elder Scrolls, this intrigues me and I'd like to meet them in one of the games. That I haven't yet is slightly disappointing. I keep hoping for an encounter though.

- The Khajiit and Argonians don't have much separating them, really, and they're underclasses in the Elder Scrolls Universe, even slaves in some areas. They're nowhere near as independent as I'd like. They should have their own empires.

I liked Morrowind more than I did Oblivion, freeing the slaves and leading a massive slave revolt, putting the Khajiit and Argonians into positions of power (yay mods!). I also loved being a werewolf in both Morrowind and Oblivion (with a mod).

Both games were great to explore and had some really varied content. I loved the quest in Oblivion where you have to go into a painting, and literally everything is retextured to look like a painting, that was a bit special. I want that brush!

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:32 PM

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Both games were great to explore and had some really varied content. I loved the quest in Oblivion where you have to go into a painting, and literally everything is retextured to look like a painting, that was a bit special. I want that brush!

That was awesome indeed.  My favorite quests were from the Assassin's guild (Dark Brotherhood I think).  Never had so much fun murdering..

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:43 PM

I wonder if, like in Morrowind, we will have people trying to kill us in our GW2 personal stories....not in the obvious way...I mean as in assassins jumping out at us.

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 09:35 PM

I have a gut feeling that the Elder Scrolls MMO is going to have taken the "innovative" route to MMOs (the second MMO to do this next to GW2), specifically sandbox MMOs. It's going to be awesome.

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 06:19 AM

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I mean the pink area marked as Morrowind. It wasn't that big in the eponymous game.
The entire pink region is known as Morrowind, but the game took place on Vvardenfell (the island). The mainland was never available for exploration except for the city of Mournhold (where the Tribunal expansion takes place). There is also Solstheim (setting for the Bloodmoon expansion) near Vvardenfell and Skyrim.

Kairosius said:

I have a gut feeling that the Elder Scrolls MMO is going to have taken the "innovative" route to MMOs (the second MMO to do this next to GW2), specifically sandbox MMOs. It's going to be awesome.
If anyone can pull it off it's going to be Bethesda.
TES games although different in taste for each person, have never failed to deliver. TES lore itself is perfect for an MMO setting. They have a really flexible and well established lore. Moreover if they carried their skill system over onto an MMO (custom classes) it would be the best system out there, no restrictions.

I also have a feeling (and hope) that if it's an MMO it will have the sandbox setting.

Edited by Edge, 17 September 2010 - 06:26 AM.


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Posted 17 September 2010 - 10:52 AM

I wonder what Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is going to be about..?

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 11:21 AM

I really loved Morrowind ... but Oblivion was such a dissapointment for me. fortunately Bethesda learned it lesson about scaling (Fallout 3 was way better for that matter) and I am now confident that they will release a great Elder Scroll V.

The main theme of Morrowind is (for me, IMHO, etc.) the best theme ever.

... I found this comment in the Youtube page for the Morrowind theme :

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This song is.. well, undescribable. When I'm sad, the song is sad. When I'm proud of something, the song is heroic and powerful. When I'm happy, the song is well.. happy. It's like a best friend. <snip>
.... so true.

Edited by Eanny, 17 September 2010 - 11:24 AM.


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Posted 17 September 2010 - 12:30 PM

DuskWolf said:

- The Khajiit and Argonians don't have much separating them, really, and they're underclasses in the Elder Scrolls Universe, even slaves in some areas. They're nowhere near as independent as I'd like. They should have their own empires.

I highly suggest you get this mod:

http://www.oblivionm...rts_of_Anequina

It adds the whole territory of Elsweyr. It's really well done.

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 01:14 PM

Kairosius said:

Yes there is a chance that there is an Elder Scrolls MMO in development; however, it is not going to be TES: V. They are going to be completely separate games.

THANK GOD! The last thing I heard was that both games are the same. I was dying inside.

So Skyrim is the next one? Well I would have liked to go to Summerset, I mean Bloodmoon, showed us how Skyrim looks and feels like, I want to see something new. Well better than nothing. I hope the don't screw the level system up like they did in Oblivion (Bandits with glass armor? They must have robbed many rich people :eek:). The level system of Morrowind was good enough for me, they could use it again, or build something new, as long as it is not broken, I'll go with it. What they however can take from Oblivion are the creative quests (more Dark Brotherhood!^^)

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 02:55 PM

Actually I'd really like to see the Black Marsh (huge Argonian fan)

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 04:21 PM

I got oblivion elder scrolls 4 goty edition i kind of regret it there are just so many downfalls for me the biggest being there are only like 3 voice actors

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 05:15 PM

Daggerfall>Morrowind>Oblivion
End of story ^^
Daggerfall better then Morrowind? Ofcourse.
Huge world (and that being 1996 year) even bigger then that of Morrowind's, great story (at some points better then Morrowind's), different endings, which was something completly new back then, some spells like levitate which were something new and fun as well. I could go on and on but it's not point. The only thing that stopped Daggerfall from being recognized as very best rpg ever created were numerous bugs imo. Still even with those bugs it was one of the best rpg experiences I will always remember.

Morrowind had great story, and that alien feel to it. It didn`t have that "just another generic fantasy world" feel like Oblivion. And mods. It was one of the 1st games to be so mod friendly. It suffered from pretty bad combat, but other then that it was great game, almost as good as Daggerfall. And even thought I usually don`t bother much about graphic being good or not - Morrowind have very specific beauty I liked.

Why I disliked Oblivion? Side stories were interesting, but main plot felt way too overused. And good graphic isn`t everything that makes the game good. Luckly for Oblivion it had tons of mods, but Morrowind had that too.
... And you couldn`t levitate in Oblivion, a thing I loved doing in Morrowind/Daggerfall.

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 09:51 PM

I also forgot to mention that Bethesda began pre-production (not full production which began 2 years ago) about 4 years ago while they had just began full production for Fallout 3. During pre-production all of the Oblivion artists and writers would have worked on TES: V for 2 years straight. Add that to the updated engine that Bethesda is using because Todd has said that everything in the updated engine has been greatly improved (animations and such). Plus, the 2 years of full development (with twice as many employees as when they were making Oblivion; hence why the time between announcement and release will be the shortest) means this game is going to greatly improve over the past four games; or at least I hope so.

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 11:07 PM

Ahhh, I always dreamed of a thread dedicated to TES. Sorry Guild Wars but I have to say that Oblivion was probably the single greatest game I have ever played, but of course they're such different games neither is in danger of replacing the other.

Kysio said:

Daggerfall>Morrowind>Oblivion
Ok, I hate to argue with a fellow TES fan, but seriously....daggerfall is your favourite? I mean, for it's time sure it was good, but now even looking at it makes me feel slightly ill. Oblivion was all about feeling in the game, and Daggerfall and Morrowing unforunately fail to to anything near that with such limited visuals. I guess maybe if daggerfall brings back good memories it can seem a whole lot better, but I never played it when it was released (probably because I'm of a younger generation), so such nostalgia doesn't affect me, only wonder at how you can live with playing it :D

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 11:40 PM

I have a feeling that the physical form of Akatosh is dormant inside High Hrothgar, while his spiritual form governs time.

Edited by Kairosius, 18 September 2010 - 12:03 AM.


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Posted 18 September 2010 - 01:36 AM

Man I love the elder scrolls games. I am freakin in love with oblivion and play it all the time. Morrowind was all right, not as much fun to me personally. The main reason I liked it was because I could go and do whatever I wanted, and the magic system is just so amazing. You can pretty much do everything with just magic. Also I love the Argonians, and the High elves. Anyway, yeah, one of the best fantasy games ever (besides the upcoming GW2 of course :D)

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 07:47 AM

The Yog said:

Ok, I hate to argue with a fellow TES fan, but seriously....daggerfall is your favourite? I mean, for it's time sure it was good, but now even looking at it makes me feel slightly ill. Oblivion was all about feeling in the game, and Daggerfall and Morrowing unforunately fail to to anything near that with such limited visuals. I guess maybe if daggerfall brings back good memories it can seem a whole lot better, but I never played it when it was released (probably because I'm of a younger generation), so such nostalgia doesn't affect me, only wonder at how you can live with playing it :D

Maybe if you want good graphics you should play some fps games? >_>
For me RPGs are about story and world depth (well and some other, smaller details), not graphics.
And saying "I mean, for it's time sure it was good, but now even looking at it makes me feel slightly ill." sound like it's Beth's fault they released it back then when technology wasn`t at such level and thus game is worse because it have worse graphic. But trust me, most of the fans will tell you Daggerfall is best out of all TES games :)
It's like comparing... hmm... any modern game to tetris for example (or any old game). You won`t play it just because it have outdated graphics?

Graphics doesn`t make RPG games, keep it in mind.
Oh and I`m sure I spent more time playing Daggerfall then Morrowind and Oblivion combined.




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