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#121 chuckles79

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 06:34 PM

Stop with the excuses, this is the closest it's been on Monday for a while and I'm having fun.  JQ is tougher than they've been since we got here, deciding to play hard on the weekend rather than waiting for Wed. to push for 2nd.
SBI is always organized and quick to respond, and is only hurting due to participation.

Just enjoy it and collect badges!

#122 Antithesis

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:31 PM

View PostFriendlyFire, on 10 December 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

Too true. SBI and JQ would rather fight each other, than fight SoS for points.  It seems last night/this morning may have been an exception?

SBI since day 1. When I have a choice I ALWAYS prefer to hit JQ player. Plain and simple cant stand them.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:32 PM

View PostFriendlyFire, on 10 December 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:

SBI are the masters of the backdoor.
Giggity!

#124 Stei

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

View PostAntithesis, on 10 December 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

SBI since day 1. When I have a choice I ALWAYS prefer to hit JQ player. Plain and simple cant stand them.
We play for first and give you every opportunity to focus SoS I mean we had them spawn camped on EB this morning and rather than push the weak and outmanned you pushed us. It wasn't tactically smart at all. Sure we couldn't maintain our hold on SoS spawn but you missed an opportunity for free points.

View Postcoronbale, on 10 December 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

Giggity!
If backdoors turn you on do golems as well? ;)

#125 Antithesis

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:49 PM

View PostStei, on 10 December 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

We play for first and give you every opportunity to focus SoS I mean we had them spawn camped on EB this morning and rather than push the weak and outmanned you pushed us. It wasn't tactically smart at all. Sure we couldn't maintain our hold on SoS spawn but you missed an opportunity for free points.


Perhaps there are other players that feel as I do about JQ ...

#126 Stei

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:58 PM

View PostAntithesis, on 10 December 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

Perhaps there are other players that feel as I do about JQ ...
That's fine but that's not playing for first thats playing for second by definition because we aren't in first :) That just sounds like a grudge to me but i'm fine with it.

#127 Jedbacca

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:20 PM

What about basing your attacks to just win the map? I feel as though if I have more on the map I did my job for my server and for the morale on the map for that time frame. I honestly don't look at overall points usually I'm lookin at how to improve my maps ppt and to take the most enjoyment out of the time we are in. I feel like commanders should be entertainers in bringing a good time with the gaming experience, so those large scale Braveheart style fights gets ppl goin.  At least thats what I get out of it. I love me some open field combat!

#128 MrZero

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:25 PM

This whole "playing for second" crap is so old.

#129 Stei

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:34 PM

View PostJedbacca, on 10 December 2012 - 10:20 PM, said:

What about basing your attacks to just win the map? I feel as though if I have more on the map I did my job for my server and for the morale on the map for that time frame. I honestly don't look at overall points usually I'm lookin at how to improve my maps ppt and to take the most enjoyment out of the time we are in. I feel like commanders should be entertainers in bringing a good time with the gaming experience, so those large scale Braveheart style fights gets ppl goin.  At least thats what I get out of it. I love me some open field combat!
Oh I agree completely just trying to figure out whats the point of letting SoS break out of a spawn camp on EB when it doesn't benefit your server seeing as SoS always pushes and takes mendons anz and spel. It's sorta their M.O

#130 Jedbacca

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:40 PM

Well, to the players on EBs defense, those teams are compiled of larger grouped "pugs" i believe is the term. Even the NoPe guild is primarily composed of said structure as well. So, maybe not everyone would be the best tactician. Those guys n gals over there though, somehow manage to hold that map somewhat together.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 12:27 AM

Was on SoS BL just now. Profitsports from War Machine threatened that they will leave SBI if we don't get our shit together. :P

#132 Stei

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 12:56 AM

View PostBeastgate, on 11 December 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

Was on SoS BL just now. Profitsports from War Machine threatened that they will leave SBI if we don't get our shit together. :P
Taking anything profit says seriously is not a smart move.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:26 AM

View PostBeastgate, on 11 December 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

Was on SoS BL just now. Profitsports from War Machine threatened that they will leave SBI if we don't get our shit together. :P

Idk who this profit is but thats funny xD

#134 Stei

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:33 AM

View PostDark, on 11 December 2012 - 01:26 AM, said:

Idk who this profit is but thats funny xD
He was removed from WM for expressing a lot of opinions that wm didn't support.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:46 AM

Profit was not removed.

Edited by bizneo, 11 December 2012 - 01:47 AM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:21 AM

Maybe profit is referring to Jang Gun's post about WM quitting because WvW is getting boring and repetitive:

General.7803 said:

We can’t wait at February.
ArenaNet think us as crying child who want some candy.
I lost patience to WvW. GW2 will be maniac game.
Me and [WM] will leave soon this game about 1 or 2 week later.
Already we don’t run WvW as usal that no longer fun and repetitive stupid work.
Not any more.

https://forum-en.gui...n-To-WvW/page/2

Edited by Hohen, 11 December 2012 - 02:23 AM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:30 AM

View PostMrZero, on 10 December 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

This whole "playing for second" crap is so old.

Engaging JQ when we are pushing SoS off a map is getting old, especially when it helps SoS extend their lead.  If there was a reward for helping SoS I would understand, but it makes my brain hurt trying to figure out why this happens.

SBI may not be happy with Second, but they have yet to show they want SoS out of First.

This is not to say the fights are the best I have seen in 4 weeks, but I won't be happy till SoS finishes in Second or Third.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:09 AM

I've personally grown attached to fighting SoS, mucho fun fights out there even when we get out numbered :)

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:24 AM

View PostJedbacca, on 11 December 2012 - 05:09 AM, said:

I've personally grown attached to fighting SoS, mucho fun fights out there even when we get out numbered :)
I have grown attached to that fancy sword you hold

#140 Stei

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:33 AM

View PostFriendlyFire, on 11 December 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

Engaging JQ when we are pushing SoS off a map is getting old, especially when it helps SoS extend their lead.  If there was a reward for helping SoS I would understand, but it makes my brain hurt trying to figure out why this happens.

SBI may not be happy with Second, but they have yet to show they want SoS out of First.

This is not to say the fights are the best I have seen in 4 weeks, but I won't be happy till SoS finishes in Second or Third.
Funny they won't push SoS on EB ever. Seems to me its fear but I guess SBI is still playing like the HoD days. I will keep fighting regardless just sort of sad to see a server so afraid to fight another side.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:45 AM

View PostFriendlyFire, on 11 December 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

Engaging JQ when we are pushing SoS off a map is getting old, especially when it helps SoS extend their lead.  If there was a reward for helping SoS I would understand, but it makes my brain hurt trying to figure out why this happens.

SBI may not be happy with Second, but they have yet to show they want SoS out of First.

This is not to say the fights are the best I have seen in 4 weeks, but I won't be happy till SoS finishes in Second or Third.

I guess it's just us though. Oh wait, no it's not.

Immediately after posting that, I logged in to SBIBL. I bet you are going to ask what was going on. Then again maybe not. I'll tell you though. JQQ was attacking the garrison and SOS was attacking the bay. What? Wait a minute, I thought it was, let me look this up so I get it right...

View PostFriendlyFire, on 09 December 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

It is true that SBI attacks JQ, instead of SoS, when JQ is pushing SoS.  This is "playing for points," and it works, but it is not playing for First.

View PostKyiv, on 09 December 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

SBI will never pass SoS, tonight proves that.  They are playing for 2nd and SoS will always beat them.....

So see, we are playing for second. By attacking you not SoS. Right? Because by not attacking first place it is, "ignorant and stupid", as it was characterized earlier in this thread. JQQ isn't ignorant or stupid are they. They would only attack first because that is the smart thing to do. But I digress, anyone can take one instance in game and make a broad sweeping generalization. Right?

Look, "playing for second" is about as stale and old as, "excuses", "pve", "pvdoor", "they zerg too much", "coverage", "2v1", "outmanned",  but at least we don't have to read, "they have all the orbs". I guess I jus tdon't understand why you people can't come here and give a grats on a good game or good fights. Why can't people come on here and give descriptions of epic fights. Why has there always got to be bitching, whining and insulting? Is everyone still in middle school or something?


There is irony in this post and none of it escapes me.

View PostStei, on 11 December 2012 - 05:33 AM, said:

Funny they won't push SoS on EB ever. Seems to me its fear but I guess SBI is still playing like the HoD days. I will keep fighting regardless just sort of sad to see a server so afraid to fight another side.

It's also sad to see a server full of arrogant egotistical whiners. But hey, that's why the tier 2 servers never liked you guys and that's also how you guys are hanging on to the nickname JQQ.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:49 AM

View PostMrZero, on 11 December 2012 - 05:45 AM, said:

I guess it's just us though. Oh wait, no it's not.

Immediately after posting that, I logged in to SBIBL. I bet you are going to ask what was going on. Then again maybe not. I'll tell you though. JQQ was attacking the garrison and SOS was attacking the bay. What? Wait a minute, I thought it was, let me look this up so I get it right...





So see, we are playing for second. By attacking you not SoS. Right? Because by not attacking first place it is, "ignorant and stupid", as it was characterized earlier in this thread. JQQ isn't ignorant or stupid are they. They would only attack first because that is the smart thing to do. But I digress, anyone can take one instance in game and make a broad sweeping generalization. Right?

Look, "playing for second" is about as stale and old as, "excuses", "pve", "pvdoor", "they zerg too much", "coverage", "2v1", "outmanned",  but at least we don't have to read, "they have all the orbs". I guess I jus tdon't understand why you people can't come here and give a grats on a good game or good fights. Why can't people come on here and give descriptions of epic fights. Why has there always got to be bitching, whining and insulting? Is everyone still in middle school or something?


There is irony in this post and none of it escapes me.



It's also sad to see a server full of arrogant egotistical whiners. But hey, that's why the tier 2 servers never liked you guys and that's also how you guys are hanging on to the nickname JQQ.
I'm just trying to figure out the logic. There is no logical way to explain attacking us while SoS had territory undefended all that shows is that SBI is playing for spite and not to win but whatever don't worry SBI I'm sure we can flip some of your keeps too if we really focused you :)

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:55 AM

I can have an opinion and I can use witty commentary that sometimes includes sarcasm.  It is not against the rules.

Settle down take a deep breath.

When I logged out SBI had 350ish ppt, that may have something to do with it?  Also I am certain SBI had Bay, Vale and Briar in JQBL.  SBI still continued their presence there, taking Wood, as JQ was pushing SoS out.  Logically an strategically this is a bad move, and as Stei said, he is happy to return he favour.

Score update, please?


-added some notes-

Edited by FriendlyFire, 11 December 2012 - 06:10 AM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:06 AM

Score:
SoS- 102k +270 +SM
JQ- 94k +135
SBI- 93k +290

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:22 AM

grats to WM and all the people from SBI who rallied to JQBL to defend your bay keep :) even with 4 trebs you still held us also I must say my favorite fights in this game come from fighting for the bay and its so fun to defend it

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:47 AM

View PostMrZero, on 11 December 2012 - 05:45 AM, said:

It's also sad to see a server full of arrogant egotistical whiners. But hey, that's why the tier 2 servers never liked you guys and that's also how you guys are hanging on to the nickname JQQ.

Half-wit juveniles love that term (as derogatory) and it sticks around because the internet will always be full of half-wit juveniles.  On the topic of inane WvW strategies, I used to get upset back in the HoD days, but it's every server for itself and you can't tell others what to play for.  It's all a matter of perspective anyway.

Edited by OMGhalps, 11 December 2012 - 06:50 AM.


#147 Stei

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:13 AM


That's one of the lowland pushes from the past few days :)

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:21 AM

View PostMrZero, on 11 December 2012 - 05:45 AM, said:


It's also sad to see a server full of arrogant egotistical whiners. But hey, that's why the tier 2 servers never liked you guys and that's also how you guys are hanging on to the nickname JQQ.

Stop with the generalisations. There are arrogant egotistical  whiners on all sides.

On a lighter note, that was a great three way firefight outside on JQ BL Hill north area below gates last night. Lots of fun, I love those open field flowing battles.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:47 AM

View PostMrZero, on 11 December 2012 - 05:45 AM, said:

Why has there always got to be bitching, whining and insulting? Is everyone still in middle school or something?

then.......

It's also sad to see a server full of arrogant egotistical whiners. But hey, that's why the tier 2 servers never liked you guys and that's also how you guys are hanging on to the nickname JQQ.

The hypocrisy you exhibit is beyond hilarious =D

I was talking about BOTH SBI and JQ playing for 2nd.  It is some of their issues in being able to beat HoD or whatever server their remnants move to.  That fact that you are whining and crying about others whining and crying is pretty funny though.

JQ = JQQ, SBI = SBCry and SoS = Whatever another 12 year old will make up for them.

Edited by Kyiv, 11 December 2012 - 09:29 AM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:32 AM

is this whole JQ only attacks sos, and sbi only plays for second theory an EB only thing?

I almost entirely play on borderlands where this scenario is never the case. all three teams attack each other all the time and often 1 or more gets wiped off the map and you don't see people flame for 2 pages or more because of it. doesn't matter which server is in the lead. if sbi or jq are pushing sos hard the other non first team will go for the non sos tower or keep with a 30+ zerg almost every time. like magic.

i like magic.

seems like an EB only problem and not a server(s)-wide problem?




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