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#181 FriendlyFire

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:20 PM

Le sigh.

Too bad SBI will never be First in the Tier.

What a joke.

#182 lollasaurus

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:48 PM

Just got off, JQ looking pretty strong at a time like this

#183 CalmLittleBuddy

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:11 PM

Y'all trippin.

Here's JQ poster and SBI poster each one blaming the other for not attacking SoS. I don't know which game you've all been playing lately. I've been part of fights against SoS that last hours. I've also scouted and seen SBI fighting SoS (until SBI saw me and zerg rushed me for NO REASON! DO YOUR JOB!).

I don't hear calls to fight SBI and leave off SoS. I see everyone trebbing everyone else. I see fights. All over from all sides against all servers. I've even seen SoS get bored and fight themselves for a tower! I've seen SBI launch a rocket up to the moon and fight JQ from SPACE.

I am officially calling BS on all this 'strategy'. The fact is SoS can field enough players to roll 3 maps at once. JQ can challenge one map and hold on for life in EB. SBI can attack 2 maps at certain times of the day, and zero at others. Hence, the score. The only reason JQ moved into second is ecause we got an infusion of oceanic blood last week.

EVEN IF

JQ and SBI were to cease all hostilities towards each other, our COMBINED FORCES would just barely match SoS's numbers, and we'd still have to split the pie somehow or secretly agree to boost one of us to 1st while the other takes 3rd to HOLD a lead. You guys are dreaming. Unless one or the other gets a huge guild to transfer or SoS completely loses interest, no amount of hand holding short of deliberately throwing a match to dethrone SoS will work.

Ain't. Happening.

Meanwhile, we can all sit around blaming each other. Carry on.

EDIT: This is not to say SoS, SBI and JQ don't use strategy. Everyone does. I just question how effective a truce between SBI and JQ would actually be.

Edited by CalmLittleBuddy, 12 December 2012 - 03:17 PM.


#184 Wotah

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:40 PM

One epic battle in SBI BL at North Supply last night, we eventually died but caused a lot of havoc in the meantime.

#185 Guy_Fawkes_jr

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:30 PM

It makes sense that we along w SoS focus on JQQ since we have so many friends from TA on each of our servers.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:43 PM

People I know on SBI don't go into WvW worrying about score any more. We know we can't match the coverage, so it is pointless.

   People I know just look for good PVP and fun raising Hell.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:13 PM

View PostFriendlyFire, on 12 December 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

Le sigh.

Too bad SBI will never be First in the Tier.

What a joke.

Keep talking smack. we just going to keep smacking  u in eb

#188 Zheo

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:19 PM

View PostVihar, on 12 December 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

People I know on SBI don't go into WvW worrying about score any more. We know we can't match the coverage, so it is pointless.

   People I know just look for good PVP and fun raising Hell.

*gasp* you mean you play for the FUN of the game...this can't be true!!!

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:55 PM

Well, it is a lot LESS fun when you can't bring your competitive nature to the table, you have to drop that first.

  Therefore, WvW is an order of magnitude LESS fun then it used to be, but still fun if you just want PVP and forget about thinking of WvW as any kind of competition.

  It's just something to do.

  And something that isn't going to get you anywhere doing it, since badges are utterly useless for anything other than buying siege for doing something useless.

By the way....

  Has anyone pointed out that this is Wednesday, in a T1 matchup, and we don't even have 200 posts in this thread?

   That pretty much speaks for itself.

Edited by Vihar, 12 December 2012 - 05:53 PM.


#190 Wotah

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:06 PM

View PostVihar, on 12 December 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

Well, it is a lot LESS fun when you can't bring your competitive nature to the table, you have to drop that first.

  Therefore, WvW is an order of magnitude LESS fun then it used to be, but still fun if you just want PVP and forget about thinking of WvW as any kind of competition.

  It's just something to do.

  And something that isn't going to get you anywhere doing it, since badges are utterly useless for anything other than buying siege for doing something useless.

By the way....

  Has anyone pointed out that this is Wednesday, in a T1 matchup, and we don't even have 200 posts in this thread?

   That pretty much speaks for itself.

What?  We need more smack talk?

#191 Vihar

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:09 PM

View PostWotah, on 12 December 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

What?  We need more smack talk?

  Interest.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:19 PM

So who's firing up Darkfall today? Whoops!

http://www.darkfallo...om/blog/?p=3448

Nice one day notice. Something tells me that if the February WvW update is decent a lot of PS2 and DF:UW PvPers will be back.

#193 Zheo

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:32 PM

The lack of replies could be attributed to the fact that this is week 4 of the same match up. Can't really talk smack when all the smack has been said and you're facing the same opponent. I do see your point, however, that a lack of posts is concerning, but there could be other reasons.

#194 Jedbacca

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:14 PM

Hrm SoS you smell like beans and JQ, your mom, discuss!!!

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:23 PM

View PostZheo, on 12 December 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

The lack of replies could be attributed to the fact that this is week 4 of the same match up. Can't really talk smack when all the smack has been said and you're facing the same opponent. I do see your point, however, that a lack of posts is concerning, but there could be other reasons.


It's more like they run out of excuse.

They said PRX carrying them and now they see what happens without PRX.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:26 PM

View PostJedbacca, on 12 December 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

Hrm SoS you smell like beans and JQ, your mom, discuss!!!

Are you trying to discuss the smell of the beans? If that's the case you have to be more specific on whether it's coffee beans or something like soybeans.

Oh yeah, I'm not too happy with all this golem rushing that SoS is doing. You guys better step off or I unload my army. D:

#197 Jedbacca

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:47 PM

I prefer the smell of coffee beans. So to be insulting I guess Id say refried beans that have sat in a container with a little bit of mold on it.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:09 PM

15.5 K difference between SoS and JQQ. Will JQQ be able to make a last 48 hour push, or will SoS continue to hold back the angry tide of tears!

This has been a very close match. Much props to all three servers for the fun in the sun.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:44 PM

View PostJedbacca, on 12 December 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

I prefer the smell of coffee beans. So to be insulting I guess Id say refried beans that have sat in a container with a little bit of mold on it.

What kind of mold?

The white furry stuff that is growing out of the bean itself or the green kind that gross across the top of the pile with whit hair around the edges?

thnx.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:46 PM

View PostMrZero, on 12 December 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:



What kind of mold?

The white furry stuff that is growing out of the bean itself or the green kind that gross across the top of the pile with whit hair around the edges?

thnx.

The dark green center with white hairy edges

#201 MrZero

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:50 PM

View PostJedbacca, on 12 December 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

The dark green center with white hairy edges

I hate it when you start dumping that stuff out and it tears like wet paper.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:14 PM

tbh, SBI has no one on.  additionally, SBI has no clue.  why trebs are not constantly on SM from overlook (the EASIEST keep to treb SM from) is beyond me.  we make a pretend effort to push at times, and it falls apart quickly.  SBI has been in T1 too long.  we've been exposed to no variety of tactics.  we've had to adjust to nothing.  and SOS coming up has shown us all that we do not deserve, nor are we prepared, to play with the big boys.

there are never elementalists (except me) shielding our siege.  there are never battles of attrition where SBI strategically builds siege and pushes forward against all odds.  no, SBI runs in like suicidal maniacs repeatedly trying to take territory with manpower opposed to siege.  it's a total mismanagement of resources, a total disregard of seige and strategy, and an obstinate, pigheaded, stubborn approach to wvw that would work better if we actually had the manpower to overcome anything (which we don't).

seriously, spend the gold to buy siege.  spend the badges to buy siege.  drop siege in battles.  carry resources on you at all times.  BASIC wvw strategies that SBI has not had to traditionally rely on.  it feels like we're reserving resources for epic fights that we just don't ever get in because we don't even get the first foot in the door.  it's not up to the commanders to direct you, supply you, siege you, and win for you.  SBI needs to pull together as some kind of cohesive unit, meaning EVERY individual needs to contribute to being a team.

it's disgusting at this point.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:43 PM

Score update - JQ is very close (and gaining).

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:45 PM

View PostTribal696969, on 12 December 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

tbh, SBI has no one on.  additionally, SBI has no clue.  why trebs are not constantly on SM from overlook (the EASIEST keep to treb SM from) is beyond me.  we make a pretend effort to push at times, and it falls apart quickly.  SBI has been in T1 too long.  we've been exposed to no variety of tactics.  we've had to adjust to nothing.  and SOS coming up has shown us all that we do not deserve, nor are we prepared, to play with the big boys.

there are never elementalists (except me) shielding our siege.  there are never battles of attrition where SBI strategically builds siege and pushes forward against all odds.  no, SBI runs in like suicidal maniacs repeatedly trying to take territory with manpower opposed to siege.  it's a total mismanagement of resources, a total disregard of seige and strategy, and an obstinate, pigheaded, stubborn approach to wvw that would work better if we actually had the manpower to overcome anything (which we don't).

seriously, spend the gold to buy siege.  spend the badges to buy siege.  drop siege in battles.  carry resources on you at all times.  BASIC wvw strategies that SBI has not had to traditionally rely on.  it feels like we're reserving resources for epic fights that we just don't ever get in because we don't even get the first foot in the door.  it's not up to the commanders to direct you, supply you, siege you, and win for you.  SBI needs to pull together as some kind of cohesive unit, meaning EVERY individual needs to contribute to being a team.

it's disgusting at this point.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:47 PM

Wouldn't it be fun if JQ & SBI decided to focus SoS tonight to push us into 3rd.  Bring it!

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:11 AM

View PostAso, on 12 December 2012 - 11:47 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be fun if JQ & SBI decided to focus SoS tonight to push us into 3rd.  Bring it!

JQ would never work with us, They for some reason dislike us although we have been in the same tier for so long.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:15 AM

Stockholm syndrome:  Not working as intended?

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:19 AM

View PostTribal696969, on 12 December 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

tbh, SBI has no one on.  additionally, SBI has no clue.  why trebs are not constantly on SM from overlook (the EASIEST keep to treb SM from) is beyond me.  we make a pretend effort to push at times, and it falls apart quickly.  SBI has been in T1 too long.  we've been exposed to no variety of tactics.  we've had to adjust to nothing.  and SOS coming up has shown us all that we do not deserve, nor are we prepared, to play with the big boys.

there are never elementalists (except me) shielding our siege.  there are never battles of attrition where SBI strategically builds siege and pushes forward against all odds.  no, SBI runs in like suicidal maniacs repeatedly trying to take territory with manpower opposed to siege.  it's a total mismanagement of resources, a total disregard of seige and strategy, and an obstinate, pigheaded, stubborn approach to wvw that would work better if we actually had the manpower to overcome anything (which we don't).

seriously, spend the gold to buy siege.  spend the badges to buy siege.  drop siege in battles.  carry resources on you at all times.  BASIC wvw strategies that SBI has not had to traditionally rely on.  it feels like we're reserving resources for epic fights that we just don't ever get in because we don't even get the first foot in the door.  it's not up to the commanders to direct you, supply you, siege you, and win for you.  SBI needs to pull together as some kind of cohesive unit, meaning EVERY individual needs to contribute to being a team.

it's disgusting at this point.

LOL, you got us, we are actually named Society of Bitter Idiots

Edited by Jedbacca, 13 December 2012 - 12:20 AM.


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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:25 AM

View PostGlobal_GW2, on 12 December 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

So who's firing up Darkfall today? Whoops!

http://www.darkfallo...om/blog/?p=3448

Nice one day notice. Something tells me that if the February WvW update is decent a lot of PS2 and DF:UW PvPers will be back.

I've played PS2, DF2 in the last week or so and to be honest there is a fair amount of criticism that could be made about each one. I really don't know what is so attractive about FPS MMOs, because in FPS you require the lowest ping possible to be effective. Sure you can survive if you have 220ms, but whenever you face someone of equivalent skill the lowest ping will usually win (try playing CS with 340ms and come back if you have another opinion). There are other reasons I could go into why I think people will drop the game after the shinies fade away, but if the updates in February aren't worth it I doubt the guys who left for PS2/DF2 will come back. We'll have to wait and see.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:32 AM

SBI to tell [HAHA]Get Clowned on Scrub  guild to GTFO off their server they're making you look bad.




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