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#1 Shoppy

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:47 PM

I've already hit 80 with my warrior so i'm decided to roll an alt. I have tried ALL the classes and haven't found one I'd like to stick with. Thief seems the most attractive but I find it really hard to play in PVE because of the low health pool and low armor. I mainly play PVE and i keep dying to mobs.

1 .What are some traits that would help me. I wouldnt want to go all Toughness as I also want damamge.

2. What are the Utility skills that I should use?

#2 Orpheo Lyra

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 01:26 AM

With Thief you survive based on your dodging and/or stealths. Acrobatics have the skills with help with dodging, and also give you more health as you invest points in them, Shadow Arts help you if your build capitalizes more on stealth and also gives you more Toughness as you invest points there. Depending on your build you'll tipically invest 20 or 15 points in either of these, leaving the rest for Critical Strikes or Trickery (Condition Damage builds) depending of how you deal your damage.

For skills you'll want Withdraw if you prefer to evade damage by dodging (synergizes well with Vigorous Recovery in the Acrobatics Tree) or Hide in Shadows if you prefer to prevent damage by going under stealth. Other Utility skills are Roll for Initiative which lets you dodge/evede attacks and gives you initiative so you can use your damage skills more.

Depending on your weapons you get your choice of survibility, double dagger thieves can either evade with death blossom (also the main damage skill for Condition dmg builds) or stealth with cloak and dagger, the latter also applies to builds with dagger as off-hand. Builds with Pistol as off-hand have access to Blind in the 5th slot.

Edited by Orpheo Lyra, 09 December 2012 - 02:00 AM.


#3 SlizeTT

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:32 AM

Its also good idea to focus on ranged/kiting stategy during early levels. preferably SB + p/p or p/d
Ambush and knockdown trap are your friends here as well as caldrops and shadowstep. Equip ranged, and go for anything that helps you kite, just read Utility description and it will come to your mind.

Later when u get "the feel" look around for some meele stuff :)
Its also nice, coz you will try diffirent playstyles, so your not gonna play with same weapon/utilities thru whole lvling process.

#4 Phenn

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 06:09 AM

As those above have already said, the thief is all about dodges or stealth. At early levels (at least until level 20) you're best off just spamming Cluster Bomb or going with DB-spam. But the most important utility you can ever pick up is Caltrops. You'll stack insane bleeds and the cripple keeps mobs locked down. Early on, build toward a DB-spam/conditions spec.

Once you hit level 20, and want to go more stealthy, you can put your points in Shadow Arts for the blind-on-stealth. This makes builds like P/D and S/D super effective. However, stealth builds are almost entirely single-target, so you'll find it slow going for a while.

But yeah--get Caltrops.

#5 sty0pa

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:44 PM

FWIW as many of my posts here can verify, I had a long road of frustration with my thief.  But something about hitting around lvl 60 it's gotten MUCH easier.
The Minion's Thief discussion thread - even if you don't use one of his builds - is fascinating and useful insight into using a thief successfully.




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