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#1 Neo Nugget

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:27 PM

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It's been a good long while since World Vs World has received some update love, but with Wintersday on the horizon, Habib Loew has shared the list of changes that will be pushed to the live game for the upcoming winter festivities. While it isn't the major update that's expected to hit next year, players who frequent the Eternal Battlegrounds will no doubt enjoy these improvements.

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Wintersday is coming and along with all the other goodies there will be a few updates to WvW. Some of these changes are the result of forum feedback while others are part of our longer term plans for WvW. Here’s a quick preview of what WvW will get for Wintersday:

Advance notification of new builds
In order to allow WvW players to make good decions about siege placement, assault timing, etc. we’re adding a new build pre-announcement. This will be in the form of a message broadcast to all players some time before the current build expires. Because this notification is tied to one of the final steps in our build process, and those final steps take a variable amount of time, we won’t be able to say exactly when the current build will expire. Instead, the message will provide a window of time in which the new build will become available.

Alt+F4 is no escape
If someone that you’re fighting disconnects during combat (via Alt+F4, killing the client process, etc.) their character will be instantly killed, death penalties will be applied, and XP & loot will be handed out as usual.

No more insta-build walls & gates
Destroyed walls and gates will now rebuild when they reach 10% health rather than on the very first repair. This means that when attackers down a wall or gate defenders won’t be able to instantly rebuild it. Walls and gates which are destroyed can still be damaged if they have any health.

Breakout events
We’ve added a new event type to WvW called Breakout events which trigger when one or more teams have been pushed completely out of a map. They’re designed both to help players break out of severly camped portal keeps and to provide assistance in establishing a foothold in each map. Here’s what designer Matt Witter has to say about them:

Break Out Events are special WvW events that will happen when a team has lost control of all defensive structures, not counting supply camps. An NPC commander will appear in the team’s start area and an event will start that prompts players to gather around. Once enough players are in the commander’s presence he will summon his trusty dolyak to give all allies in the area full supply. He will then lead the charge to the nearby objective and give players protection and assist with building siege to assault the objective with. Those benefits, along with a defensive boon that he applies to all nearby allies, makes the attacking players a force to be reckoned with. Defenders will have their work cut out for them, as once the gate or wall piece is destroyed the commander will move to the tower lord inside and attack anyone in his path.

These changes are just a small part of what the WvW team has been up to lately. As you may have already heard, we’re hard at work on some larger updates that we plan to deliver in February. We’re not quite ready to talk about the details yet but as February gets closer we’ll start to reveal more of our secrets.

Happy Wintersday and we’ll see you on the battlefield!


#2 Marrett

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:40 PM

Awesome. Me Gusta!

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:48 PM

So, does that mean the home team for the borderlands will get garrison for free if they are pushed out?  The updates are a start but still hoping and waiting for a major update that includes better loot since this does nothing to reward players.

#4 Mr Shrimp

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:56 PM

Cool, improvements that will make things more fun and fair. I know the haters will be like WvW is still broken because blah blah, I already quit the game, etc. but oh well. These changes look good. Looking forward to them and future changes.

#5 Kuruptz2

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:59 PM

the changes does look good nothing wrong with them at all


though wouldnt KILL Them to make it more rewarding to make people actully Join WvWvW more and things

unique more aweomse armor looks or something? the invaders dosnt look special at all and the weapons are horrible looking you just wanna Poke your eyes out

but i know they never will

Edited by Kuruptz2, 10 December 2012 - 07:59 PM.


#6 jirayasan

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 08:14 PM

Nice new update, doesn't solve all the problems though. Have to wait for January and February.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 08:16 PM

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Alt+F4 is no escape
If someone that you’re fighting disconnects during combat (via Alt+F4, killing the client process, etc.) their character will be instantly killed, death penalties will be applied, and XP & loot will be handed out as usual.

Finally, I hate Alt+F4s cheaters.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 08:27 PM

Oh, I'm gonna die a lot more in WvW now.... so is anyone else with a Wireless ISP. Flaky things, I D/C Around 5-10 times every 2 hours while playing, be it PvE, WvW, whatever, due to an unreliable ISP. It's almost snow season too, so if you see me in WvW, you might want to follow me around, I might spontaneously die (actual D/C) a ton after this is implemented.

I've never once Alt-F4'd in important parts (WvW, party PvE, etc), but that new rule does seem awefully unfair to those of us with an actually unreliable ISP. Still though, I can see where it's needed. I have a feeling there are a lot more Alt-F4 cheaters than people like me with an unreliable internet that actually do D/C a lot.

Edited by Xuphor, 10 December 2012 - 08:29 PM.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 08:39 PM

View PostXuphor, on 10 December 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Oh, I'm gonna die a lot more in WvW now.... so is anyone else with a Wireless ISP. Flaky things, I D/C Around 5-10 times every 2 hours while playing, be it PvE, WvW, whatever, due to an unreliable ISP.

If you are d/c-ing that many times, then it's probably not your ISP---at least not them alone. You might want to look at the stuffs over on your end, too.  Maybe try switching to a new router and/or switching over to another wireless channel to see if you see any improvement..

Edited by Digilodger, 10 December 2012 - 08:40 PM.


#10 Briar

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 08:47 PM

What? alt+f4 is cheating? I thought I was making up for a feature that was mistakenly left out of the game. Denying perma-stealth thief's badges of honor... Because you know killing someone while invisible is honorable

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:03 PM

Not sure how I feel about these "Breakout" events and the new "deadly disconnects"...time will tell. But no more instant walls/doors along with advance notice of new game builds are both very welcomed changes IMO.

#12 Craywulf

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:08 PM

Lets keep our perspectives in check, if these changes were in the original build, no one would be complaining. I welcome the break out events, I think this could help a lot lower ranked servers climb out of the cellar of rankings.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:13 PM

As long as disconnecting when not in combat doesn't apply the death penalty, I'm completely okay with this - though still a bit sad for those with wireless ISPs.

And as a Kaineng player I am totally in favor of the Breakout events.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:17 PM

Good stuff. Thank you for finally touching WvW :D

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:19 PM

Good additions!

And we got some clarifications from the devs about the instant death with alt+f4.

https://forum-en.gui...irst#post965716

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To clarify: character death on disconnect is a WvW only change.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:25 PM

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Alt+F4 is no escape

I think I just wet myself.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:28 PM

"trailer" of the Wintersday Patch

Now on HD

Edited by Lekyii, 10 December 2012 - 09:42 PM.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:32 PM

Hmm just thought to this, what happens if a perma-stealth thief follows you around constantly C&Ding you so that you can never leave combat. You would have to walk across the map to find a tower or something to hide in just to log off... lol

Edited by Briar, 10 December 2012 - 09:34 PM.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:34 PM

I love these changes.  Cannot wait to have them in game!

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:37 PM

View PostBriar, on 10 December 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

Hmm just thought to this, what happens if a perma-stealth thief follows you around constantly C&Ding you so that you can never leave combat. You would have to walk across the map to find a tower or something to hide in just to log off... lol
How often is that going to happen? I'm sure there's a dozen of ways that unjustly kill you when you log off WvW, but these circumstances are going to be rare.

#21 Rytlock Bigpaw

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

I use and abuse alt+f4 cause elementalist is so broken. Now i will have just to jump from a cliff... or level my warrior asap and play OP class, hard choices

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:39 PM

View PostLekyii, on 10 December 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

"trailer" of the Wintersday Patch
*snip*
I just realized that The Hobbit hits theaters the same day GW2: Wintersday goes live! Gonna be an interesting day.

View PostBriar, on 10 December 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

Hmm just thought to this, what happens if a perma-stealth thief follows you around constantly C&Ding you so that you can never leave combat. You would have to walk across the map to find a tower or something to hide in just to log off... lol
:huh: ...you're f'n kidding right?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:12 PM

View PostBriar, on 10 December 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

What? alt+f4 is cheating? I thought I was making up for a feature that was mistakenly left out of the game. Denying perma-stealth thief's badges of honor... Because you know killing someone while invisible is honorable

All's fair in love and war. However, if in real war someone got killed with a blade from behind, people would call that person a good soldier. Should the injured soldier just disappear, I bet they'd scream, "witchcraft!" ;)

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:00 PM

It's a good start.  WvW has been in desperate need of some lovin.

View PostRytlock Bigpaw, on 10 December 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

I use and abuse alt+f4 cause elementalist is so broken. Now i will have just to jump from a cliff... or level my warrior asap and play OP class, hard choices

No more cheap tactics for you champ, no matter what your poor excuse is.  By all means jump to your death though, I always get a good laugh when people would rather jump off a cliff than face me.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:37 PM

View PostLekyii, on 10 December 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

"trailer" of the Wintersday Patch

Now on HD


I SAW A JUMPING PUZZLE !!! :D

#26 Xuphor

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 12:23 AM

View PostDigilodger, on 10 December 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

If you are d/c-ing that many times, then it's probably not your ISP---at least not them alone. You might want to look at the stuffs over on your end, too.  Maybe try switching to a new router and/or switching over to another wireless channel to see if you see any improvement..

Thanks for the advice, but it's the exact same router, computers, and everything that I used back at my other house on a Cable Comcast ISP. There it worked with no issues. Plus, I know it's my ISP because all the other people on this ISP complain of the exact same problem. We all only use it because it's literally the only ISP available in this area, not even any DSL :P

Edited by Xuphor, 11 December 2012 - 12:23 AM.


#27 st0rmie

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:33 AM

All of those changes sound pretty good to me.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:40 AM

Im sure there will still be a 100 people whining about the changes but I'm just glad their giving it some attention.

#29 Grimrist

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:39 AM

still no rendering fix?

#30 Yski

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:13 PM

View PostGrimrist, on 11 December 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

still no rendering fix?
Are you talking about the invisible enemies? You might want to check this ;)
http://www.guildwars...ial-introduced/

View PostRytlock Bigpaw, on 10 December 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

I use and abuse alt+f4 cause elementalist is so broken. Now i will have just to jump from a cliff... or level my warrior asap and play OP class, hard choices

Wait, elementalists have a decent mobility, don't they? With things like RTL you really shouldn't be dying too often. I'm a necromancer and even my mobility is enough to let me get away from practically anything.




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