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#1 dynia666

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:43 PM

Ok 1st of all I laugh to ppls who make topic like thief is op nerf cause it killed me or thief make topic about omg guardian or necro are op cause I can't killed them on my backstab combo NERF NERF NERF ... wtf people ...

Another thing its not about balance or build but about players skills, what skills they pick what they do,what timing on skill they choose etc. PvP now fast like in dota 2 one small mistake or a bit slower reacion some times cost you life or even cast stun breaker 0,5 sec too late.

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I played ele on gw2 realise on spvp killed ppls they called me op,
later long time break from pvp I took thief killed ppls they called me op …
ok next class I took necro heavy conditioner/tank with mm build killed ppls they called me op
next class I check was total bunker engi point defender tanked 3 ppls easy they called me op … dafaq engi op ?!
another class guardian, I killed some ppls with him mostly thiefs but not only they called me op again … dafaq ? ALL class op ?
next was fun warrior s/s bleeder with shouts for heal killed some ppls with bleed + tank heal with shouts they called me op (shaman amulet on warrior ftw ^^)
next class memser I play now, Im killing r35+ players easy on spvp when im r15 they call me op and they think I play on new acc cause that rang play that good -.- another class is op ?!

Ok guys all classes I played is op … when all classes is op game is balanced ? -.-
Its rly all depons on your build skill and timing what you do when you dodge what you do vs other class etc

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:57 AM

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#3 Ramanadjinn

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:42 AM

can you post a vid of you playing an OP ranger?

i'm genuinely curious and eager to learn.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:50 AM

Somebody give this guy an internet award.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:38 AM

The GW2 savior is amongst us!

Edited by MrForz, 12 December 2012 - 11:41 AM.


#6 dynia666

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:09 PM

View PostRamanadjinn, on 12 December 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

can you post a vid of you playing an OP ranger?

i'm genuinely curious and eager to learn.

only class I didn't play is ranger cause don't like it, MM necro is better summoner

View Postayoblame, on 12 December 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

Somebody give this guy an internet award.

I don't care you belive me or not, ppls QQ on forum like that cause get owned by x class and think that class is easy cause owned badly that class, I play 6 class now and didn't saw anything is rly that op, if you know how to play eveerything can be op and if you play vs bad players who don't know how to play for example, balance is same like in dota 2 or any other mmo what the most depons on player skill and knowleage about timing and skill timing classes knowleage and skills knowleage

Edited by dynia666, 12 December 2012 - 12:09 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:36 PM

If you're as good as you're saying you are, play a tourney! Join a topper and start playing the guild ladder :)

Otherwise - I think maybe.. just maybe your "data" is a little flawed. I'm sure the complaining you're hearing will either permeate in some way, or you'll learn to tune it out... or you'll quit. It's just part of a competitive game.

I'd venture to say my Axe Ranger is "overpowered" too, to some people... in sPvP :P

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#8 dynia666

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:14 PM

View PostMekkakat, on 12 December 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

If you're as good as you're saying you are, play a tourney! Join a topper and start playing the guild ladder :)

Otherwise - I think maybe.. just maybe your "data" is a little flawed. I'm sure the complaining you're hearing will either permeate in some way, or you'll learn to tune it out... or you'll quit. It's just part of a competitive game.

I'd venture to say my Axe Ranger is "overpowered" too, to some people... in sPvP :P

its was just all about why ppls QQ and don't even know how to play game, get owned and QQ on forums for nerfs

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:08 PM

Since you're already so uber in PVP why not take a break and work on your communication skills? I had a hell of a time trying to read that OP.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:20 PM

I have enough experience at all levels of PvP to say with confidence, that every single class in this game has a viable and very strong build or two for high level player (except warrior). But this warrior exception is that every single warrior weapon-set and build is extremely balanced at all levels, just nothing "OP."

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:58 PM

View Postdynia666, on 11 December 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

Ok guys all classes I played is op … when all classes is op game is balanced ? -.-
Its rly all depons on your build skill and timing what you do when you dodge what you do vs other class etc
It is clear.

#12 dynia666

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 06:52 PM

View PostRunkleford, on 12 December 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

Since you're already so uber in PVP why not take a break and work on your communication skills? I had a hell of a time trying to read that OP.

maybe only for you cause there is no dots, in polish lang there is much eaiser to read things even there are no dots or verbs 1st of all and 2nd of all, im only r15 and kill already 40+ like a fly so yeah

- he is only r27, but I killed already 35+ all the same some are harder some easier (not vs thiefs only ofc) and tell me thief is op -.- is easier class to kill after ranger

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:43 PM

View Postdynia666, on 16 December 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

maybe only for you cause there is no dots, in polish lang there is much eaiser to read things even there are no dots or verbs 1st of all and 2nd of all, im only r15 and kill already 40+ like a fly so yeah

- he is only r27, but I killed already 35+ all the same some are harder some easier (not vs thiefs only ofc) and tell me thief is op -.- is easier class to kill after ranger

You realise rank means nothing in this game. Anyone can easily gain ranks by just grinding sPvP. Rank in GW2 is not a indicator of skill. There are plenty of rank 40+ who are still terrible.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:08 PM

View PostSmellyead, on 16 December 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

You realise rank means nothing in this game. Anyone can easily gain ranks by just grinding sPvP. Rank in GW2 is not a indicator of skill. There are plenty of rank 40+ who are still terrible.

  Very true. It  supports the point Dynia666 was trying to make. It is player skill that counts.

The qq generally comes from players who simply can't accept they have been bested by a more skilled player.

Edited by Antares, 16 December 2012 - 11:12 PM.


#15 Condiments7

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 03:12 AM

Despite Dynia666's rather jumbled way of expressing his experiences, his opinion about people's whining is mostly correct. That is not to wipe away legitimate criticism, but a lot of the time people won't take responsibility for their own failure in play. There needs to be more build diversity than what is available at the moment, but balance isn't that terrible right now.

Edited by Condiments7, 17 December 2012 - 03:13 AM.


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Posted 17 December 2012 - 03:24 AM

Surprised I haven't seen a Neil DeGrasse Tyson post yet.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:01 AM

View PostAntares, on 16 December 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

  Very true. It  supports the point Dynia666 was trying to make. It is player skill that counts.

The qq generally comes from players who simply can't accept they have been bested by a more skilled player.

Or a build that hard counters yours.
Or getting stomped by a zerg, but that's another story

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:26 AM

View PostWanna Go To heaven, on 17 December 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Or a build that hard counters yours.
Or getting stomped by a zerg, but that's another story

But still diffrent story is when you are 1v1 and 5v5, idk do you ever played dota 2 situation its same as here.
This game is bassed as team play in dota 2 and gw 2 is the same 5v5 now, still ppls who play pubs in dota 2 only QQ about some heros are OP there and don't ever know there at least 5 ways to counter any carry heros.

And in 5v5 situaction is same here in gw 2 you don't fight ALONE you fight with team, some heros is more tanky to point defender some heros is for point take and mobility and some is for DD to take down others fast and hide before tanks back hit and run away.

Edited by dynia666, 17 December 2012 - 09:27 AM.


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:23 AM

That's not always the case though. There are classes in GW2 that even if a dog played it, they would still win.



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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:26 PM

View PostLiquidzoil, on 19 December 2012 - 03:23 AM, said:

That's not always the case though. There are classes in GW2 that even if a dog played it, they would still win.



that why ppls qq on main gw2 site now, that ele is OP and immortal with d/d + are very mobily right ?

and tell it to thiefs I owned badly and mostly of them was high rangs

Edited by dynia666, 19 December 2012 - 12:27 PM.


#21 raspberry jam

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:17 PM

View Postdynia666, on 16 December 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

maybe only for you cause there is no dots, in polish lang there is much eaiser to read things even there are no dots or verbs 1st of all and 2nd of all, im only r15 and kill already 40+ like a fly so yeah

Wait a min here...

View Postdynia666, on 16 December 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

in polish lang there is much eaiser to read things even there are no dots or verbs



#22 Liquidzoil

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:38 PM

View Postdynia666, on 19 December 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

that why ppls qq on main gw2 site now, that ele is OP and immortal with d/d + are very mobily right ?

and tell it to thiefs I owned badly and mostly of them was high rangs
Err.... I don't think you watched the video.
Watch the video and like I said, there are classes in this game that can be played by a dog and they would still win.

#23 dynia666

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:34 PM

View Postraspberry jam, on 19 December 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

Wait a min here...





You know this forum is about gw2 not about lang propery, I will not repeat, I didn't have any probs to read and understood my 1st post,  me or my polish mate, not my prob you british ppls need verbs to understood things cause we don't

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 10:14 AM

View Postdynia666, on 19 December 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

You know this forum is about gw2 not about lang propery, I will not repeat, I didn't have any probs to read and understood my 1st post,  me or my polish mate, not my prob you british ppls need verbs to understood things cause we don't
Verb is "czasownik" in Polish

I guarantee that the Polish language have verbs

Because they are, you know, absolutely essential for any language

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

but we don't need verbs to understood all, if you rly need about polish lang read about thing like is "bezokolicznik" are, once again its gw 2 forum not polish-english one, its sentence in the language without any verbs and we can understood it.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:50 PM

View Postdynia666, on 20 December 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

but we don't need verbs to understood all, if you rly need about polish lang read about thing like is "bezokolicznik" are, once again its gw 2 forum not polish-english one, its sentence in the language without any verbs and we can understood it.
Jesus *ing Christ

NO

Allow me to illustrate. i will post a couple of sentences with the verbs removed. Please tell me what they mean.

I my father when I 10.
The ball on the floor.
Whoever this thread not grammar.

Edited by raspberry jam, 20 December 2012 - 12:50 PM.


#27 Kovares

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:01 PM

View Postdynia666, on 20 December 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

but we don't need verbs to understood all, if you rly need about polish lang read about thing like is "bezokolicznik" are, once again its gw 2 forum not polish-english one, its sentence in the language without any verbs and we can understood it.

Wait, you are seriously trying to justify your terrible english skills with saying that the english language itself does it wrong and should adhere to your personal preference instead?

Wow, what an incredibly douchy thing to say. Sometimes I wonder how people even come up with such crap.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:09 PM

View PostKovares, on 20 December 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

Wait, you are seriously trying to justify your terrible english skills with saying that the english language itself does it wrong and should adhere to your personal preference instead?

Wow, what an incredibly douchy thing to say. Sometimes I wonder how people even come up with such crap.

Or he could be saying: my first language doesn't work the same way english does, so that would be why my skills are "terrible".
But yeah this is the internet, where everyone's supposedly a native english speaker.
I'm pretty sure most people understood what he was trying to say. So he got his point across which is what matters.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 01:20 AM

View Postraspberry jam, on 20 December 2012 - 12:50 PM, said:

Jesus *ing Christ

NO

Allow me to illustrate. i will post a couple of sentences with the verbs removed. Please tell me what they mean.

I my father when I 10.
The ball on the floor.
Whoever this thread not grammar.

Have you ever speak in polish or learn even about basics ? Do you know at least basic of polish ? So pls don't teach me HOW to speak in my home lang, when I do it whole life cause you look stupid right now, when I try to tell you WE don't need verbs to understood things that its simple true and that how this lang looks like ... don't like it ? don't care that how that lang looks ... its 3 harest lang in world that im sorry to say ? wanna know more go and try learn something and don't play mr smart on the net

you are just another grammar bitch, don't have any sense argumaents about topic and about gw 2 balance so speak about bullshits and grammar, im sorry mr smart british boy but that how its looks like

I think mods need to reward you a warn cause you start rly hard offtopic and btw once again check on net what bezokolicznik are

Edited by dynia666, 21 December 2012 - 01:21 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:11 AM

View Postdynia666, on 21 December 2012 - 01:20 AM, said:

Have you ever speak in polish or learn even about basics ? Do you know at least basic of polish ? So pls don't teach me HOW to speak in my home lang, when I do it whole life cause you look stupid right now, when I try to tell you WE don't need verbs to understood things that its simple true and that how this lang looks like ... don't like it ? don't care that how that lang looks ... its 3 harest lang in world that im sorry to say ? wanna know more go and try learn something and don't play mr smart on the net

you are just another grammar bitch, don't have any sense argumaents about topic and about gw 2 balance so speak about bullshits and grammar, im sorry mr smart british boy but that how its looks like

I think mods need to reward you a warn cause you start rly hard offtopic and btw once again check on net what bezokolicznik are
If you don't need verbs, tell me what the things I wrote means. If you can't, just admit that I was completely correct and that you don't even know what a verb is.




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