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[OChunx]

What is up with the prices on these jewelry prices? Currently, the Passiflora Orichalcum Earrings run for about 28g, Amulet for 25g, and Earrings for 23g, with about 12 pieces left on the trade post between all three of them. The apothecary affix isn't even popular or sought after, yet one could buy an entire exotic Knights, Clerics, or Berserkers set without even having enough money for two pieces of jewelry, let alone the rest of the armor.

I've been recently trying to scrounge up enough money to even play a build that I wrote up a guide for, and apothecary being by far the most optimal spread of stats, I was aiming to get it. But then i see these prices...

I understand that I could easily play a support necro without the jewelry, but that's not point. My problem is the continuous massive oversight that is being put into the designing of gear, especially for gear that is meant for stats and not looks. I mean, each piece of jewelry requires 75 passion flowers that are rarer than ectos. The only thing that is preventing this set from topping 100g+ per jewelry piece is that it is luckily low demand and passion flowers are not involved with ascended gear...yet.

I feel like the inflated costs of crafting high tier equipment is from the desire of checking long-term inflation. But since the majority of sinks in this game are material sinks rather than gold sinks, all that's happening is rapid cost-push inflation. Combine that with needing 1XX amount of expensive materials for every piece of gear, and you've got a never-ending spiral of demand-pull and cost-push inflation, that has nothing to do with battling the inflation that naturally comes from gold entering the economy. I can't imagine what the reasoning is behind the absurd cost of this set (and a lot of other gear in general) if it has no way of acting as an effective sink, and if we are not supposed to be encouraged to grind.

So, any thoughts?

EDIT: So I was corrected and passion flowers are involved with ascended gear because they are used in making versatile infusions.

Edited by OChunx, 14 December 2012 - 02:34 PM.

[xExitium]

Forget about that set of jewelry, they are overprice because of passion flower which you can get from consortium chest only.

[OChunx]

xExitium, on 13 December 2012 - 03:09 AM, said:

Forget about that set of jewelry, they are overprice because of passion flower which you can get from consortium chest only.

While the former is my sentiment right now, passion flowers can in fact drop from passiflora nodes and aren't from consortium chests only.

[xExitium]

Ok, since it can be harvest from the node but not often am I right?
So how long you gonna harvest 75 of them. -.-

[OChunx]

xExitium, on 13 December 2012 - 04:15 AM, said:

Ok, since it can be harvest from the node but not often am I right?
So how long you gonna harvest 75 of them. -.-

Umm, I'm not sure what you're even saying here. I wasn't planning on harvesting any because the drop rate is like 1 in 200, and I don't think I implied in any of my posts that I was going to. Plus, to get the full set, I'd need 375 so I'd be going for that, not 75...

So exactly, the problem is no one is willing to harvest something so rare and low in demand.

Edited by OChunx, 13 December 2012 - 04:21 AM.

[Lucas Ashrock]

OChunx, on 12 December 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

I understand that I could easily play a support necro without the jewelry, but that's not point. My problem is the continuous massive oversight that is being put into the designing of gear, especially for gear that is meant for stats and not looks. I mean, each piece of jewelry requires 75 passion flowers that are rarer than ectos. The only thing that is preventing this set from topping 100g+ per jewelry piece is that it is luckily low demand and passion flowers are not involved with ascended gear...yet.

Passion flowers are used for crafted infusions. The low price not reaching 100g per flower is because of the high supply and semi low demand (most thinks "who gives a damn to pay 20g+ for a damned +5" ). The same guy who supplied it could yes, even put a 100g per piece considering you find more easily a precursor than a flower haha

Edited by Lucas Ashrock, 13 December 2012 - 05:41 AM.

[OChunx]

Lucas Ashrock, on 13 December 2012 - 05:37 AM, said:

Passion flowers are used for crafted infusions. The low price not reaching 100g per flower is because of the high supply and semi low demand (most thinks "who gives a damn to pay 20g+ for a damned +5" ). The same guy who supplied it could yes, even put a 100g per piece considering you find more easily a precursor than a flower haha

Looks like you're right. But so few people know about or even want the versatile versions (it'd be cheaper just to recraft a backpiece or re-get a ring if getting a the right offensive/defensive slot is that important in some cases) that the discovery of their recipes hardly changed passion flower prices. Passion flowers increased steadily in price after Lost Shores, with no sudden spikes like in the case of T6 materials, suggesting that it was mostly just decreasing supply that has sustained the increase.

Edited by OChunx, 14 December 2012 - 02:35 PM.

[Keaghan]

I say buy them now, before someone else gets your idea and then decides to monopolize the price lol...

Always gonna be a factor like that :x

Edited by Keaghan, 13 December 2012 - 03:28 PM.

[OChunx]

So as of Christmas Eve...
Passiflora Orichalcum Amulet of the Apothecary: 58g
Passiflora Orichalcum Earring of the Apothecary: 67g 98s 99c
Passiflora Orichalcum Ring of the Apothecary: 65g 99s 95c

Anyone know the cause for the rise in these prices? It certainly isn't demand for these items. I can only assume that people are needing the passion flowers for omni-infusions, but I have no idea why they wouldn't just get the matching offensive/defensive item and infusion instead. And Anet said the raised the drop rate, lol, probably from .001% to .0015%.

Edited by OChunx, 24 December 2012 - 05:09 AM.

[Sans]

OChunx, on 24 December 2012 - 05:09 AM, said:

So as of Christmas Eve...
Passiflora Orichalcum Amulet of the Apothecary: 58g
Passiflora Orichalcum Earring of the Apothecary: 67g 98s 99c
Passiflora Orichalcum Ring of the Apothecary: 65g 99s 95c

Anyone know the cause for the rise in these prices? It certainly isn't demand for these items. I can only assume that people are needing the passion flowers for omni-infusions, but I have no idea why they wouldn't just get the matching offensive/defensive item and infusion instead. And Anet said the raised the drop rate, lol, probably from .001% to .0015%.

that would be a 50% increase.
That's alot.

Anyways.
they're going up in price because no one is crafting them.
All the passiflora are being used for infusions.

[OChunx]

Sans, on 24 December 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

that would be a 50% increase.
That's alot.

Anyways.
they're going up in price because no one is crafting them.
All the passiflora are being used for infusions.

Actually, if we based it on the prices in the original post, it would be a 100% or more increase.

Yeah, I'm fairly confident that passion flowers aren't getting used for the apothecary trinkets, so then the only logical thing is that they are being used for infusions. I don't think the fact that no one is crafting them is pushing up the price at all, since there's so little demand in the economy that everything on the TP (besides for crafting material) is at vendor or crafting price. But why on Earth would anyone get the omni-infusions? with the current prices, it's cheaper just to recraft your ascended backpiece and use the appropriate infusion.

I guess I can understand not wanting to repeatedly run fotm when you get the ring with the right stats but wrong infusion slot... I think the biggest problem is just that there's probably a total of 10 people in the entirety of guild wars 2 that bother to farm passion flowers.

Edited by OChunx, 24 December 2012 - 04:20 PM.

[Sans]

OChunx, on 24 December 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

Actually, if we based it on the prices in the original post, it would be a 100% or more increase.

Yeah, I'm fairly confident that passion flowers aren't getting used for the apothecary trinkets, so then the only logical thing is that they are being used for infusions. I don't think the fact that no one is crafting them is pushing up the price at all, since there's so little demand in the economy that everything on the TP (besides for crafting material) is at vendor or crafting price. But why on Earth would anyone get the omni-infusions? with the current prices, it's cheaper just to recraft your ascended backpiece and use the appropriate infusion.

I guess I can understand not wanting to repeatedly run fotm when you get the ring with the right stats but wrong infusion slot... I think the biggest problem is just that there's probably a total of 10 people in the entirety of guild wars 2 that bother to farm passion flowers.

Well you can't use 2 of the same rings, they're unique.
Each stat combo has 2 rings, 1 offensive 1 defensive.
As for recrafting your backpiece, I'm using the book, and I wouldn't replace it for a quiver on my mesmer, just because it's cheaper.

And I meant 50% drop rate increase.

[OChunx]

Sans, on 25 December 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

Well you can't use 2 of the same rings, they're unique.
Each stat combo has 2 rings, 1 offensive 1 defensive.
As for recrafting your backpiece, I'm using the book, and I wouldn't replace it for a quiver on my mesmer, just because it's cheaper.

And I meant 50% drop rate increase.

Oh, thanks for clearing that up. Though I still had to re-read it a few times to understand that you were referring to the ascended rings being unique and not the Passiflora rings.