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[raspberry jam]

astromarmot, on 14 December 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

But then again, that sort of thing implies there needs be some sort of genesis, and not just a temporal one, but some manner of emergence of something from some undefined absence of everything...some sort of nothing predating(oops temporal faux pas) preexisting e,r pre-not-existing) something...and again, given our rather limited frame of reference it of course seems to be necessary...while I find it hard to imagine something that always was, and always will be, I liken it asking into what is the universe expanding implying the necessity of a greater dimension of containment...

hell, for reasons well beyond my own understanding I once read a Scientific American article that implied the expansion of of the universe to the point of homogeneous entropy, the cessation of all motion, all heat, all organized energy, and it friggin depressed me...

I never indicated that the physical was meaningless, nor do I think that the possibility of a greater existence implies the lack of importance of the here and now, because honestly, the moment is the only reality that we can place any measure of confidence in...everything else is basically a leap of faith...that we actually remember what we experienced, and that the universal physical rules of today and yesterday will still rein tomorrow...and that's why we must never rest on our laurels, and stop asking the questions...every new discovery is because someone lacked the faith of the giant's eyesight and climbed upon his/her shoulders for a better view...

Yes, a genesis, as explained by pretty much every credible theory of the origin of the universe (i.e. various versions of the big bang theory). The universe isn't expanding into something, it is expanding by creating new space. This might be hard to grasp at first, but once you realize what is happening (not even the math of it, just the concept) it's the most obvious thing in the world. I agree that heat death (universal entropy where all matter is zero-temperature liquid iron etc...) might seem depressing. Depressing doesn't mean that it isn't true... But I don't even think it is depressing. I think that it rather creates value!

Yes, I agree that we must climb onto the giant's shoulders... But that means we literally need to stand on his shoulders. Not that we should stand on the ground beside him and imagine to be standing on his shoulders. Our current knowledge is by no means final, but it is there. We should not reject it.

[Rhododendron]

raspberry jam, on 14 December 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

astromarmot, on 14 December 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

Why are you two trying so hard to depress the OP ?

[astromarmot]

raspberry jam, on 14 December 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

...snip...

But maybe sometimes we might even consider building a tower, or climbing a tall tree, or even taking our hind ends out to the "horizon..."  cheers!

Rhododendron, on 14 December 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

Why are you two trying so hard to depress the OP ?

And on that note...fin!

Edited by astromarmot, 14 December 2012 - 04:04 PM.

[Havenless]

Coren, on 13 December 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

Well, I met my girlfriend 3 years ago after moving back to Switzerland from the Netherlands. One week later my best friend hooks me up with his girlfriend's best friend. I was told she's blind, but I didn't care

Consider yourself lucky. I sometimes wish I had a blind gf.. she'd never find out that I'm ugly.

[Coren]

Havenless, on 15 December 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

Consider yourself lucky. I sometimes wish I had a blind gf.. she'd never find out that I'm ugly.

Plenty out there. But what makes her special is how much she can do blind. Ski, skate, mountain climb, and game on pc (with my help).

You don't have to be "ugly" for girls to not take any notice of you, being really tall is also a major disadvantage, believe me.

And besides, what's important is finding someone who doesn't care about the outside, all the ones shunning you obviously aren't worth it. I learned that the hard way too.

[Saleem]

Anything that overly gravitates outside of the "norm" can become a disadvantage ... especially if people notice it makes you uneasy and overly affects you.

Eitherway I think it's important to learn that even if you aren't loved back and it seems it just never works out it's not the end of the world and you need  to learn to accept it, move on at your pace , do other stuff that amuses you in life and try again another time.

It's really important to learn that life doesn't only revolve around romantic love and that you can be happy whitout it aswell and handle intense crushes when they arise whitout allowing them to consume you.
Sometimes it's really good to take a step back for a while and let your hormones settle a little to put things into perspective again...because hormones really do make you go HERP DERP more than you realize it at times.
It's not a big deal but it's smth I think was important acknowledging for me to calm down when it did happen and let go a little bit.

Take it easy.

P.S. also like others said getting laid can help ... our atleast flirting around a little to rack up experience because you can never be too experienced really... and it's not bad for the ego.
Of course you don't have to force yourself to do those things but when feeling like it, why not.

Edited by Saleem, 18 December 2012 - 02:53 PM.

[Archduke]

My story.

I fell in love with a man. But he's straight. Not much I can do there. Sucks hardcore.


But I'm just starting college life. I'll find someone.

Edited by Archduke, 22 December 2012 - 03:03 PM.

[Corsair]

Coren, on 15 December 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

You don't have to be "ugly" for girls to not take any notice of you, being really tall is also a major disadvantage, believe me.

I'm not quite as bad as you are, but I can sympathize. My ex was 5' 4 or 5" (about 165cm). I'm 6' 4", about 195cm I think. I'm also horribly shy in anything even approaching a mildly serious intimate setting. So I took my chance for our first kiss on some highly uneven ground at a nearby park (srsly though, this relationship hurt my back)

I thought I was in love with her. I had much the same feelings as the OP has towards his leading lady. It didn't last for me, though. The feeling past into something less vibrant and that fell and again and again. I eventually broke up with her and broke her heart in the process (something I never wanted to do and still feel bad about, but super glue exists for a reason). Was it love I felt? I don't know. I'm still pretty goddamn young. I don't have the life experience to really compare. Every so often that feeling pops up for someone else, but it passes. I miss being with someone, but not specifically this person I had. But at the moment I'm just happy hangin' out with mates and playing games. Work can go suck a lemon, though.

[pumpkin pie]

enjoy it why you still can feel...  pretty soon, you won't feel anything but hurt and betrayal.

[Coren]

Corsair, on 23 December 2012 - 07:26 AM, said:

I'm not quite as bad as you are, but I can sympathize. My ex was 5' 4 or 5" (about 165cm). I'm 6' 4", about 195cm I think. I'm also horribly shy in anything even approaching a mildly serious intimate setting. So I took my chance for our first kiss on some highly uneven ground at a nearby park (srsly though, this relationship hurt my back)

I thought I was in love with her. I had much the same feelings as the OP has towards his leading lady. It didn't last for me, though. The feeling past into something less vibrant and that fell and again and again. I eventually broke up with her and broke her heart in the process (something I never wanted to do and still feel bad about, but super glue exists for a reason). Was it love I felt? I don't know. I'm still pretty goddamn young. I don't have the life experience to really compare. Every so often that feeling pops up for someone else, but it passes. I miss being with someone, but not specifically this person I had. But at the moment I'm just happy hangin' out with mates and playing games. Work can go suck a lemon, though.

I always seemed to intimidate girls my age, (I'm 2.03 meters tall) and being blond doesn't help either, girls, at least back then, wanted the Latino look, which means being 1.73 max and dark hair. When you're a teenager, these details really matter and it's only later that things change.

Bottom line, I tend to believe that love is decided by the heart, but only a worthwhile love if your head does the definitive yes.

Had a girlfriend when I was 20 odd, before my life changing stay in the Netherlands. Was great but I could see there was no future, and she just wanted someone to be a dad to her, which wasn't me.

To everyone who thinks they're too ugly to be interesting, bear in mind that more girls and guys become less shallow with age and are interested more in a nice loving person than the 1 dimensional sports champion at 18.

[Rhododendron]

WHAT IS LOOOOVEEE . Video games , how do i love thee? Let me count the ways ...

Edited by Rhododendron, 24 December 2012 - 05:58 PM.

[Ryoto]

I'm in love with a girl who was in my college chem class, I just dont know if shes about to go back to her ex, which wouldnt be bad since he's a good guy anyway. But I do like her >.<

[Cube]

Coren, on 24 December 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

I always seemed to intimidate girls my age, (I'm 2.03 meters tall) and being blond doesn't help either, girls, at least back then, wanted the Latino look, which means being 1.73 max and dark hair. When you're a teenager, these details really matter and it's only later that things change.

Bottom line, I tend to believe that love is decided by the heart, but only a worthwhile love if your head does the definitive yes.

Had a girlfriend when I was 20 odd, before my life changing stay in the Netherlands. Was great but I could see there was no future, and she just wanted someone to be a dad to her, which wasn't me.

To everyone who thinks they're too ugly to be interesting, bear in mind that more girls and guys become less shallow with age and are interested more in a nice loving person than the 1 dimensional sports champion at 18.

I just read this and I can't help but wonder what kinds of girls you try to go for since they seem to all not like that you're tall and blonde? You're basically explaining much of the wet dreams of average 15-25 year old womens dream guy. All you need to do is just tan a little bit, you know the beach look. But maybe that's just what I'm used to girls always wanting. I live in Norway, and Scandinavia is pretty much where you would get a ton of girls. That of course doesn't mean all, as you have girls who don't like that kind of look, obviously.

I just get the feeling you may be one of those kinds of guys who go for completely wrong type of girl. Either that or you take peoples chatter too close to heart. That's not me trying to be mean. I used to think all guys only wanted big titted blonde women, pref with a tan. And it pissed me so much off, and made me really insecure about myself. Then I realized I was interested in the wrong kind of guys, the shallow ones who purely care about one thing in their relationship, that their girlfriend is pleasing to the eye.

You need to realize that being tall is one of the most beautiful things in this world. I am a woman who's 178cm tall, and I've always been concious because honestly, being a girl who is always taller than your boyfriend I think is much worse. Because trust me, there's a lot of guys out there who are 173cm, and cannot deal with having a girlfriend that is taller than them, and are crazy concious about it. I've been in that kind of relationship, it was abusive because of all of his insecurity he had to project into me to feel better about him self.

I think it has different stages. I think when you are young, love is intoxicating, it's wonderful but so painful at the same time. It makes you obsessed but you love it and it's mutual. When you get older it becomes a more deeper and powerful thing. It makes you feel warm and happy, it makes you see a future with this person. That's how it is for me anyway.

And with the whole thing about being ugly and you can't get anyone interested... I think that's a load of BS. That uglyness is only your insecurity. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Edited by Cube, 24 December 2012 - 10:19 PM.

[Ryoto]

I personally love being tall, at 6'4" Im pretty happy with my height

[Cube]

Ryoto, on 24 December 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

I personally love being tall, at 6'4" Im pretty happy with my height

That's great! Being tall is awesome. I got sexy long legs and can reach whatever I want without having to get anything to stand on ! Win!

[Ryoto]

Tall and Persian! Its fun being so tall, its really easy to grab stuff :3.  Only thing that sucks are houses with small doors... f*** those houses!

Edited by Ryoto, 24 December 2012 - 10:33 PM.

[Cube]

Ryoto, on 24 December 2012 - 10:30 PM, said:

Tall and Persian! Its fun being so tall, its really easy to grab stuff :3.  Only thing that sucks are houses with small doors... f*** those houses!

Lol yeah, I haven't had to experience that as I live in Norway so everything is made for tall ppl! But my brother is really tall and he has problems even sitting in cars haha

[Ryoto]

i wouldn't mind moving to Norway for a while to be honest >.<. My friend put me in a smart car to see if I could drive it and he said I looked like Jaws (from james bond) trying to drive one of those circus clown cars

[NuclearDonut]

Ryoto, on 24 December 2012 - 10:30 PM, said:

Tall and Persian! Its fun being so tall, its really easy to grab stuff :3.  Only thing that sucks are houses with small doors... f*** those houses!

I'm about above average height (15 yrs old, 6ft, still growing, I hope ) but I have abnormally long arms and I have to 100% agree with you, I would have to do so much more work if I didn't have this reach lol.

As for being in-love, I never have been. I'm still a teenager so there's that, but I've become less and less emotional about life over the last half decade or so. I'm not sure if I'll ever actually be in love, probably just more one night stands.

[Ryoto]

Me, I'm not to sure about actual love but I'd be down for FwB type things.

[NuclearDonut]

Corsair, on 23 December 2012 - 07:26 AM, said:

I'm not quite as bad as you are, but I can sympathize. My ex was 5' 4 or 5" (about 165cm). I'm 6' 4", about 195cm I think. I'm also horribly shy in anything even approaching a mildly serious intimate setting. So I took my chance for our first kiss on some highly uneven ground at a nearby park (srsly though, this relationship hurt my back)

I thought I was in love with her. I had much the same feelings as the OP has towards his leading lady. It didn't last for me, though. The feeling past into something less vibrant and that fell and again and again. I eventually broke up with her and broke her heart in the process (something I never wanted to do and still feel bad about, but super glue exists for a reason). Was it love I felt? I don't know. I'm still pretty goddamn young. I don't have the life experience to really compare. Every so often that feeling pops up for someone else, but it passes. I miss being with someone, but not specifically this person I had. But at the moment I'm just happy hangin' out with mates and playing games. Work can go suck a lemon, though.

Amen. This probably sums up what the OP is looking for.

Edited by NuclearDonut, 24 December 2012 - 11:09 PM.

[Coren]

Cube, on 24 December 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

I just read this and I can't help but wonder what kinds of girls you try to go for since they seem to all not like that you're tall and blonde? You're basically explaining much of the wet dreams of average 15-25 year old womens dream guy. All you need to do is just tan a little bit, you know the beach look. But maybe that's just what I'm used to girls always wanting. I live in Norway, and Scandinavia is pretty much where you would get a ton of girls. That of course doesn't mean all, as you have girls who don't like that kind of look, obviously.

I just get the feeling you may be one of those kinds of guys who go for completely wrong type of girl. Either that or you take peoples chatter too close to heart. That's not me trying to be mean. I used to think all guys only wanted big titted blonde women, pref with a tan. And it pissed me so much off, and made me really insecure about myself. Then I realized I was interested in the wrong kind of guys, the shallow ones who purely care about one thing in their relationship, that their girlfriend is pleasing to the eye.

You need to realize that being tall is one of the most beautiful things in this world. I am a woman who's 178cm tall, and I've always been concious because honestly, being a girl who is always taller than your boyfriend I think is much worse. Because trust me, there's a lot of guys out there who are 173cm, and cannot deal with having a girlfriend that is taller than them, and are crazy concious about it. I've been in that kind of relationship, it was abusive because of all of his insecurity he had to project into me to feel better about him self.

I think it has different stages. I think when you are young, love is intoxicating, it's wonderful but so painful at the same time. It makes you obsessed but you love it and it's mutual. When you get older it becomes a more deeper and powerful thing. It makes you feel warm and happy, it makes you see a future with this person. That's how it is for me anyway.

And with the whole thing about being ugly and you can't get anyone interested... I think that's a load of BS. That uglyness is only your insecurity. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Thanks for the kind words believe me, at least in Geneva, Latino was the way to go, no matter who you were interested in, and I wasn't interested in the Sallie ones either. The glasses didn't help I guess, and being the class.geek didn't help either (only guy who knew how to work in DOS).

Basically various parameters probably had an influence, even if you say tall guys are every woman's wet dream.

maybe I'm the wrong person to.say so, but I always liked girls taller than me (granted I only saw 2 in my life but I liked the idea of having a taller girlfriend, it was both unique and I wouldn't have to bend down for a kiss, that's my wet dream lol).

As for a tan... Well put it this way, when I go in the sun, I have to put maximum resistance cream or I burn, so tans aren't an option really:)

[BuddhaKeks]

Pfft being tall is was wards girls off? I can tell you, try being hairy like a sasquatch. I don't even need sunscreen, the sun never even touches my skin.

Shaving it off? Why bothering, it would grow back stronger and thicker than ever. Also, I personally like being hairy, makes me feel closer to the animal kin (which works, since most animals, especially dogs and cats love me from the first minute I meet them). I'm so proud of my hair. *wipes away a single tear from the corner of his eye*

[Saleem]

Archduke, on 22 December 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

My story.

I fell in love with a man. But he's straight. Not much I can do there. Sucks hardcore.


But I'm just starting college life. I'll find someone.

That's quite frustrating ... make sure it doesn't keep happening too often for your own sanity

Coren, on 25 December 2012 - 07:22 AM, said:

As for a tan... Well put it this way, when I go in the sun, I have to put maximum resistance cream or I burn, so tans aren't an option really:)

Tanning is really overrated.
Keep your natural skin tone.
If you happen to be in the sun OK sure but getting out of your way to tan and overdoing it is just somewhat silly in my opinion ...
I don't get what's sexy about wrinkling faster and having orange burnt like skin afterwards.

BuddhaKeks, on 25 December 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Pfft being tall is was wards girls off? I can tell you, try being hairy like a sasquatch. I don't even need sunscreen, the sun never even touches my skin.

Shaving it off? Why bothering, it would grow back stronger and thicker than ever. Also, I personally like being hairy, makes me feel closer to the animal kin (which works, since most animals, especially dogs and cats love me from the first minute I meet them). I'm so proud of my hair. *wipes away a single tear from the corner of his eye*

Hahahaha ... I wish I could just handle it more like you ... but I just keep getting more and more self conscious about it XD ...
I swear i wont go to the beach or pool anymore if im overly hairy and haven't shaved/trimmed it off for a while.
And let's not talk about people trying to undress me when I'm at my hairiest  ... XD
Maybe someday I'll be so fed up with it I'll just embrace the entire animal like look hahaha.

Edited by Saleem, 26 December 2012 - 01:08 AM.

[Cube]

Saleem, on 26 December 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

Tanning is really overrated.
Keep your natural skin tone.
If you happen to be in the sun OK sure but getting out of your way to tan and overdoing it is just somewhat silly in my opinion ...
I don't get what's sexy about wrinkling faster and having orange burnt like skin afterwards.

Agreed, it's way too overrated. Personally not a fan of it. But it seems to be the look. Well, for white people anyway. I personally love my white skin, I think it's beautiful, so I do nothing to try make it different

[Saleem]

Cube, on 26 December 2012 - 01:10 AM, said:

Agreed, it's way too overrated. Personally not a fan of it. But it seems to be the look. Well, for white people anyway. I personally love my white skin, I think it's beautiful, so I do nothing to try make it different

Well all skin tones look great imo just not when they are half burned on purpose lol.
But yes there's some paranoia over pale skin lately that seems absurd and compulsive among some people.

[Gorwe]

pumpkin pie, on 23 December 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

enjoy it why you still can feel...  pretty soon, you won't feel anything but hurt and betrayal.

What is that? You sound you just came from Altdorf(Warhammer one, not the one near Pforzheim)...

Also, to answer the topic name:

I WISH!

But then again I tend to Like being alone-Eldar/Alith Anar way(sometimes humans really get in my way, if you get me meaning)...

And that's coming from xNFP(LOL)-I guess that mine halved score on extroversion shows(). I don't even have friends, only acquintances(nobody can truly handle me-too volatile/random).

Edited by Gorwe, 27 December 2012 - 01:59 AM.

[Rhododendron]

Someone better kiss me at midnight.

[BuddhaKeks]

I'll do it, if you can find me in my fabulous rainbow realm.