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#31 GuanglaiKangyi

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:34 AM

Hold the Line does trigger Pure of Voice, it's just not 100%.  I'm not quite sure what makes it not work but it does work about half the time.

#32 chullster

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:54 AM

View PostDarch0n, on 06 January 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

Have you considered using the burning on block trait? (Defender's Flame)

I also really want to run with 30 in Radiance for Right hand Strength (+15% crit with 1-hand) but the trade-offs seem pretty severe no matter which way

- 15% crit with +10% on foe under conditions
- Altruistic healing, and blocking might
- Empowering might, heal on roll

you can only choose 2 :/

I did look at defenders flame, but the wiki says only 1 sec burn which isn't much added benefit, even if you squeezed in firey wrath, as I get a 5 sec burn from the F1 spam.

The 5% toughness conversion might now not be the best use of the adept trait as I am nearly full berserkers armour, thus less toughness. It seems to be about 80 precision added, and if I'm honest I prefer more criticals as the build runs a high crit dmg number and Empowering Might too.

I had the same problem btw, too many good traits, can't use them all :(

I did run a 0/30/30/5/5 build to get to right-handed strength, it didn't go down too well on here though so I changed it to what you see in the OP.

Mace version: http://gw2skills.net...yymlLLZWLIGFMJA

Sword version: http://gw2skills.net...yymlLLZWLIGFMJA With this version you can swap in defenders flame if you like, I prefer purity, but there's room for either.


Like you I missed the extra 15 points in Honor, you could do the same if you feel comfortable, losing heal on dodge, grant might on crit, and 20% CD reduction for shouts, nothing that would break the build completely, and I did really love seeing nearly every hit as a critical.  


View PostGuanglaiKangyi, on 07 January 2013 - 07:34 AM, said:

Hold the Line does trigger Pure of Voice, it's just not 100%.  I'm not quite sure what makes it not work but it does work about half the time.

Yeah that sounds about right, also your character doesn't shout "Hold the Line!" so that and the unreliability of the skill means I don't take it.

Edited by chullster, 07 January 2013 - 11:03 AM.


#33 beadnbutter32

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

Starting my own guardian, so thanks for an informative thread up front.

As far as balancing toughness/vitality goes, you might find this useful: GW2 Health Calculator

#34 Fenice_86

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:16 PM

Interesting guide, i was wondering what's the final choice in weapons so far? Still mace/focus?

#35 chullster

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:49 PM

View Postbeadnbutter32, on 07 January 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Starting my own guardian, so thanks for an informative thread up front.

As far as balancing toughness/vitality goes, you might find this useful: GW2 Health Calculator

You're welcome.

I've sorted of fell out of love with toughness once I noted the higher it is, the more the AI targets you in PvE. So I binned all my toughness armour for berserkers, I find it much more fun to hit hard and not get chased around much at the same time. Vitality is ok and the stats combo included on armour and trinkets with it also bring both damage stats, ie valk or beryl equipment, but again with this build you can completely absorb a lot of damage rather than just reduce it. I'm keeping the valk. chest piece I made way back just because of the expense to replace it with something that only provides bit more precision.


View PostFenice_86, on 07 January 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

Interesting guide, i was wondering what's the final choice in weapons so far? Still mace/focus?

As of today, yes mace/focus + staff are still my favoured weapons.

I tried GS with the build but didn't like it as much due to lack of blocks and seemingly lower damage numbers but with higher attack rate. Sceptre is used for some bosses for the 1200 range but is a bit boring otherwise, sword seems lower damage even when traited, torch doesn't offer as much as focus and hammer auto attack is just too slow to make it fun.

#36 kalendraf

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:39 PM

Thanks for this build!  I've been using it on my own guardian since I first tried it.  I'm still in the mid-levels, but it's been great fun from about the low 20s to mid-50s so far.

One thing I wanted to mention that might not be immediately obvious about this particular weapon setup is the cost benefit.  Many other guardian builds I've seen use Greatsword.  However, due to the popularity of that weapon among Guardians, Warriors, Mesmers and even some Rangers, the price of greatswords seems to be significantly higher than many other weapons in the trading post.  Meanwhile, Mace and Focus don't seem to be very popular - you can buy these, including many of the low-to-mid level rares, rather cheaply.  At one point, I actually managed to buy a level ~45 rare mace for less than certain crafted blue great swords of that same level were selling!  As a result, this build can be really easy on the wallet.  You can sell all those cool great swords you find or craft for a tidy profit on the trading post, and then turn around and buy an even stronger/higher grade mace and focus for dirt cheap prices.  In addition, the robustness of this build leads to far less deaths, greatly reducing potential armor repair costs.  Combine those aspects together, and you've got a solid build that can help minimize your costs while maximizing your fun!

Edited by kalendraf, 25 January 2013 - 05:42 PM.





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