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#1 Siomai

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 09:56 AM

First off this isn't a rant of some sort, merely expressing my disappointment at the game's state as of late.

I am a casual gamer and before this dungeon was introduced I had fun in most of the high level maps that actually had people running around and doing events for karma or what not. But right now I would be lucky to find a group of people doing events in Orr to actually do something else aside from repeating fotm.

I get to have about 2-3 hours of play time during the weekdays and the only thing that people want to do are fractals and since my guild is slowly climbing the higher tiers I guess I can't really catch up anymore. I don't have as much time as most of the other people in my guild to look for PUGS in LA for quite a bit of a wait only to get disconnected/crash or others in the party do wasting what little time i have to play.

I still want to get my goal of attaining my legendary, was even thinking of dropping a few $ to exchange to gold to buy my precursor. I still have hopes for the game but for now I am just disappointed and frustrated.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:14 AM

I understand that folks need to vent from time to time, but this really sounds like its something best discussed on your guild forums. I mean from what I read your point is that you want to be productive and successful with the little time you have to play each week, yet you feel like your being left behind but those who happen to have to play time that yourself. Then some talk about a Legendary weapon!?!

Do I have the gist of it?

#3 Lafiele

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:14 AM

Try http://gw2lfg.com/

It works really well. Will shorten your LFG time significantly :)

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:16 AM

I had the brilliant idea of not dealing with the frustration of constant disconnects by deciding to simply wait for the emergency fix that would enable reconnects. I mean, one would THINK this would be a top priority for A.Net.
A few weeks later, I am still at L1 and no reconnects. And with the heavy load of folks Wintersday will bring into the game (been seeing more errors lately), it really doesn't make sense to start doing Fraks until AFTER the event, which will increase the distance between me and the rest of the playerbase even further.

I think that pretty much decided that Fraks are not content I will even be doing in this game.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:17 AM

View PostLafiele, on 16 December 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

Try http://gw2lfg.com/

It works really well. Will shorten your LFG time significantly :)

Yep, I've been using that site for a couple weeks now and I recommend it while Anet works on getting a proper group find in game.

#6 Siomai

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:27 AM

View PostLafiele, on 16 December 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

Try http://gw2lfg.com/

It works really well. Will shorten your LFG time significantly :)

Ohhh ty I'll give that a try this week.

#7 Lucas Ashrock

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:02 AM

Don't rise up his hopes too much using that website. You will grow up in a manner you never imagined the block list , meeting the bottom kind of junk online. You will confirm it, soon.
And no, that website is not gonna give you back your so alive world around you, just rank you up inside a caste until you're able to go deeper, than a new caste waits you. A lot of time for a dungeon (except if you farm proficient ones like ac + cof or shrugs), story mode? forget it. Over than that, i repeat, this will illude you, you're not gonna have back the mmo you remember.

Edited by Lucas Ashrock, 16 December 2012 - 11:04 AM.


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:34 AM

View PostLucas Ashrock, on 16 December 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

Don't rise up his hopes too much using that website. You will grow up in a manner you never imagined the block list , meeting the bottom kind of junk online. You will confirm it, soon.
And no, that website is not gonna give you back your so alive world around you, just rank you up inside a caste until you're able to go deeper, than a new caste waits you. A lot of time for a dungeon (except if you farm proficient ones like ac + cof or shrugs), story mode? forget it. Over than that, i repeat, this will illude you, you're not gonna have back the mmo you remember.

I always use gw2lfg.com , hope you are not considering me the "bottom kind of junk online", neither I had issues with the people posting there, actually, thanks to that website I made many cross-server friends for dungeons. As for finding people in the world, I don't have that problem in my server, I find people everywhere, Orr, starting areas etc, yeah my server is more PvE than WvW, I think the best option for you Siomai is to find a PvE server or change to another server.

Edited by malevolence, 16 December 2012 - 11:34 AM.


#9 Lucas Ashrock

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:39 AM

No doubt, i use it too (let's say "i'm forced to"). No i didn't meant "everyone on gw2lfg is a jerk".
For sure, i never quadrupled my block list of pure junk of players so fast from day 1 (and i'm a heavy pugger, i made my entire arah fullset and dungeon master by pugs), playing fractals, talking about attitude. Over my personal experience, i can make a more popular example talking about the famous thread on the main forum, talking about some junk kicking players without a reason at end of 3rd fractal/maw just for the sake of "the lulz". (skipping the more famous leader kicking everyone at the end of the dungeon for free 60 tokens for guildies)
I wish i was able to tell" well at least gw2 community rocks". A rock ye, on their teeth.

Edited by Lucas Ashrock, 16 December 2012 - 11:41 AM.


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 04:14 PM

View PostProtoss, on 16 December 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

I had the brilliant idea of not dealing with the frustration of constant disconnects by deciding to simply wait for the emergency fix that would enable reconnects. I mean, one would THINK this would be a top priority for A.Net.
A few weeks later, I am still at L1 and no reconnects. And with the heavy load of folks Wintersday will bring into the game (been seeing more errors lately), it really doesn't make sense to start doing Fraks until AFTER the event, which will increase the distance between me and the rest of the playerbase even further.

I think that pretty much decided that Fraks are not content I will even be doing in this game.

I agree here entirely.  To top it off, fractals were advertised with the level mechanic being "The lowest COMMON level in your party."  So, in my mind, this would mean the game takes all the levels of the entire party, and calculates how many of each level there are, and the lowest one that people have in COMMON would be the level the party played at.  As it stands now, I can't play content as there is rarely any level 1 groups, the DC issues, and I can't be a replacement in like a level 5 team because as soon as I walk in the dungeon, it reverts to level 1.

they were a good idea that I was actually excited for, and have been implemented poorly, and are overall very disappointing.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 04:31 PM

Yeah I have had a lot more hours to put into this game (but not for much longer) and I still agree with the OP. It's quite obvious that this was put in to give the PVE-only guilds a reason to keep grinding and prolong things so the content teams can come up with some more stuff. Still, I won't play it unless I absolutely have to i.e. achievements. Once that's done I'm sure they'll implement tiers and other things they've talked about.

#12 Zan7

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 04:59 PM

I'm getting a little sick of all the fractals...

#13 Kaiarra

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 05:32 PM

I just wish they'd remove dungeons/fractals from the monthly, so I can start doing it again...

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 05:45 PM

Want more people in the game world then reduce the number of or do away with the server idea as that is part of the problem.

PVE just needs players and lots of them its immaterial to pve what server they are on for wvw as that is the only part of the game than needs that feature.

The other thing that might get more players turning up for the events on the map is free or very low priced teleport travel.
I frequently get the message that so and so champion is active or players calling for help doing them.

Well if I run there its usually over and no way am I paying a couple of silver to go and check it out.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:06 AM

View PostGremlin, on 16 December 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Want more people in the game world then reduce the number of or do away with the server idea as that is part of the problem.

PVE just needs players and lots of them its immaterial to pve what server they are on for wvw as that is the only part of the game than needs that feature.

The other thing that might get more players turning up for the events on the map is free or very low priced teleport travel.
I frequently get the message that so and so champion is active or players calling for help doing them.

Well if I run there its usually over and no way am I paying a couple of silver to go and check it out.

I'm sure it would be incredibly hard for them to do at this point, but I agree, it would probably solve a lot of problems.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:24 AM

View Postfatrodmc, on 17 December 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

I'm sure it would be incredibly hard for them to do at this point, but I agree, it would probably solve a lot of problems.

No it wouldn't, they have the tech in the game already. They have overflow servers once a server reaches a certain high point. What would happen if that high point was set to 0. Then anyone zoning into that map would be put into a mixed server overflow. They wouldn't have to do it with all maps, but there are so many maps that are just empty full time. Making them cross server would at least make the game feel not entirely empty.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:22 AM

Then why don't they do it!

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:40 AM

View Postfatrodmc, on 17 December 2012 - 01:22 AM, said:

Then why don't they do it!

Because we wont need it anymore once we get the guesting feature :zip:

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:14 AM

I think the main problem with Fractals is the level. Now, we have two groups of players: Those that started doing them immediately and are now high level, and those that didn't. The problem is, this has caused a pretty large gap in the player base. It can be pretty hard to start doing fractals now at level 1.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:20 AM

I've been reluctant to do more fractals, since I nowadays get disconnected in most of my gaming sessions at one point or another (haven't really found the cause of the issue yet). Fractals is the only dungeon that doesn't has the ability to reconnect. Therefor I don't like doing it, since I feel like I screw over 4 other people by disconnecting. I'm slowly trailing behind, but luckily I have a guild that doesn't mind doing a low level run from time to time, to advance the ones "left behind".

There was a huge shitstorm over this type of "leveled" content well before it was actually implemented. This sort of scenario was to be expected, yet Anet ran with it anyway ... Too bad, I guess.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:25 PM

To be honest, after level 5, I lost interest in fractals. Repeatable dungeons with soooooooo much grind is not for me at all.

I use gw2lfg.com and do dungeons regularly. I don't complain about fractals being as interesting as staring into a bowl of weetabix going soggy, and I keep doing what I like.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:03 PM

View PostmadmaxII, on 17 December 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

Because we wont need it anymore once we get the guesting feature :zip:
Of course we will. Or do you expect people to start LFG for explorable areas?

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:13 PM

I'm at lvl3 (guardian) and lvl5 (warrior).

I don't know, I don't really feel a strong desire to do fractals, although most of those dungeons are pretty ok in my opinion.
Finding a team can be hard though. I never understood why they didn't make brackets, like: "you have to complete bracket A 10 times before you can go to bracket B". Makes it much easier to team up than to split them into seperate levels; I didn't notice any difference between 1 and 5 anyway.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:22 PM

I'm starting to enjoy fractals and they seem to be falling into place.  My one remaining gripe (other than unreliability of PuGs) is the disconnect bug.  Last night I had a great group and we sailed through the first two and a half fractals on level 4, and then all got disconnected inthe middle of #3 and kicked backl into Lions Arch.  It was getting late so we just gave up right there.  It's the second time that's happened, both times with good groups.  I should be level 6 and am stuck at level 4.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:43 PM

How can this make you sad???

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...ah, wait, you meant FotM. Yeah, makes me sad too.




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