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#61 Dasryn

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 03:17 PM

View PostCalypso589, on 23 December 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

Do you skip mobs? I noticed the NPCs bug out more often when you do.

HAH!  yes the mobs are getting skipped.  i FUGGIN HATE THAT SHIT! but it seems like i cant find a group without them being lazy and looking for the most shortcuts.  its pathetic.  but thats another topic.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 06:31 PM

View PostRickter, on 23 December 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

HAH!  yes the mobs are getting skipped.  i FUGGIN HATE THAT SHIT! but it seems like i cant find a group without them being lazy and looking for the most shortcuts.  its pathetic.  but thats another topic.
*Shrug* people mostly go for the results, the highest reward/time ratio.

I also skip Kholer whenever possible. It only becomes annoying when people want to skip mobs that you better don't skip because they can be aggroed later on.

Edited by Arquenya, 23 December 2012 - 06:48 PM.


#63 DarkGanni

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 04:54 AM

Not only dungeons are broken, but many small parts across the game. Hence I've got the deluxe edition and still can't get my mistfire wolf, both on my first character before the upgrade or ones after.

They should focus on repairing old bugs before introducing new ones, just makes it more complicated in the end.

Edited by DarkGanni, 25 December 2012 - 04:55 AM.


#64 Plutonsvea

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 08:51 AM

View PostShizu, on 17 December 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

It's not the bugs themselves.

It's how they manage to fix something, break it again, fix it again, break it again at every single major update.
Same goes for TP and guild chat.

I don't know about the modern generation of sheep players, but I'm tired paying to be a beta tester. They should pay me to test their garbage, if anything.

You have already paid. If you were paying a recurring fee every month, you would have probably already spent the money that you paid for the game. If I were you, I would enjoy the fun, not bag every minuscule part of Guild Wars 2 that you don't fancy.
Arena Net aren't idiots. They will patch what they can. What do you expect, for them to leave the bug? Just to see how many people they can fool around with? No.
This is the real world.

Edited by Plutonsvea, 25 December 2012 - 08:51 AM.


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Posted 25 December 2012 - 09:07 AM

View PostPlutonsvea, on 25 December 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

You have already paid. If you were paying a recurring fee every month, you would have probably already spent the money that you paid for the game. If I were you, I would enjoy the fun, not bag every minuscule part of Guild Wars 2 that you don't fancy.
Arena Net aren't idiots. They will patch what they can. What do you expect, for them to leave the bug? Just to see how many people they can fool around with? No.
This is the real world.

Of course I already paid for GW2.
It was more of a general comment about che current state of the whole genre and the common trend of releasing early beta garbage.
See: Aion, War, AoC, SWTOR, GW2 and so on. Pretty much every major mmorpg in the last few years has been released in a beta state.
This is the trend I'm tired of, wich isn't necessarily related to GW2 only.


About GW2 itself, I already paid and got my fair share of gameplay out of it.
But I surely am not giving them a single cent in the gemstore or a single euro for any future expansion.
THIS is the real world, where paying customers move away from mediocre products and let the money talk.

Too bad I'm a minority. The masses of raging nerds will be throwing money all over any bugged piece of shit they'll release in the future, only to start raging a week later about said pile of bugged garbage.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 09:53 AM

View PostShizu, on 25 December 2012 - 09:07 AM, said:

Of course I already paid for GW2.
It was more of a general comment about che current state of the whole genre and the common trend of releasing early beta garbage.
See: Aion, War, AoC, SWTOR, GW2 and so on. Pretty much every major mmorpg in the last few years has been released in a beta state.
This is the trend I'm tired of, wich isn't necessarily related to GW2 only.


About GW2 itself, I already paid and got my fair share of gameplay out of it.
But I surely am not giving them a single cent in the gemstore or a single euro for any future expansion.
THIS is the real world, where paying customers move away from mediocre products and let the money talk.

Too bad I'm a minority. The masses of raging nerds will be throwing money all over any bugged piece of shit they'll release in the future, only to start raging a week later about said pile of bugged garbage.

Although I agree with you partially, I believe Arena Net said from the beginning that the Gem Store would not give an unfair advantage to players with the tendency to spend big. Sure, there is a currency exchange. But unless you are willing to pay around 1000.00 USD for Gems, you'll find that people buying gems are only in it for the rare seasonal items and not a large surplus of gold.

Edited by Plutonsvea, 25 December 2012 - 09:53 AM.


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Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:42 AM

View PostPlutonsvea, on 25 December 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

Although I agree with you partially, I believe Arena Net said from the beginning that the Gem Store would not give an unfair advantage to players with the tendency to spend big. Sure, there is a currency exchange. But unless you are willing to pay around 1000.00 USD for Gems, you'll find that people buying gems are only in it for the rare seasonal items and not a large surplus of gold.

That is if you like wasting money on all those cosmetic junk that doesn't help in your game performance.  There is nothing in the gem store that is worth it.  I would rather convert them into gold to get superior rune of divinity for my characters.  6 of them only costs about $44-45, no where close to $1000.

Edited by Daesu, 25 December 2012 - 10:45 AM.


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Posted 25 December 2012 - 11:23 AM

View PostRickter, on 23 December 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

HAH!  yes the mobs are getting skipped.  i FUGGIN HATE THAT SHIT! but it seems like i cant find a group without them being lazy and looking for the most shortcuts.  its pathetic.  but thats another topic.

I totally concur with your statement. I despise the pug groups where the dungeon has been turned into a rat race to the final chest. Which I have seen on multiple occasions blow up in our faces when a new player or bad luck strikes. I actually was in a group where the guild that was running it booted a player for going back to rez someone who couldn't make the run through the army of mobs. Silly crap indeed.

The best solutions I have found is to be in a guild of like minded players which I am lucky to be a part of or to create/find pug groups advertising that it is not a speed run.

On the topic of the dungeons being unstable of late it can be very frustrating. I had an SE p2 run that never had the end boss spawn last week. But I must've ran over 20-30 instances in the last several days and that was the only one we couldn't finish.

I am really looking forward to the day where the dungeons get smoothed out as ANet has promised. The loot tables need to be adjusted as well to match the fractals. If trash mobs/skip-able bosses dropped better loot that might also mitigate some of the exploit driven pug groups.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 12:22 PM

Ever notice that the worse things get, people in denial get more and more shrill when confronted with any facts contrary to their mindset.
Someone posts an observation that a whole set of bugs that were supposedly fixed have reappeared and instantly they are attacked personally.  As GW2 slides deeper into oblivion and off the bestseller charts, the faithful get more desperate to defend their delusions.
I can name tons of triple A games that cost $60 or more that have a tenth of the bugs found in this game.  People are not just fed up with the volume of bugs, but the fact that many bugs reported at launch are still in the game.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:58 AM

View PostDaesu, on 25 December 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

That is if you like wasting money on all those cosmetic junk that doesn't help in your game performance.  There is nothing in the gem store that is worth it.  I would rather convert them into gold to get superior rune of divinity for my characters.  6 of them only costs about $44-45, no where close to $1000.

Large surplus of Gold, as in around 400-500 gold, the "Above average" amount than most people. I don't know the conversion prices right now, so I wouldn't really know.




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