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#421 angelrage

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 07:50 AM

View PostProfGast, on 04 January 2013 - 07:43 AM, said:

Nice try at "legitimacy" with being an SoS player though.


not everyone wants to be in T1. contrary to popular belief, the middle tiers are "better" for a good wvw experience. more small group fighting. I left SBI for dragonbrand, joined SKY, then SKY came to SoS (which was fine with me, they were still a mid tier server). On a personal level, its frustrating to see SoS bash a server I still have friends on. this server certainly isn't better than any other I've been on.

Edit: and that was also no shortage of creepy. get a hobby.

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#422 Stinky Garbage

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:46 AM

View Postangelrage, on 04 January 2013 - 07:27 AM, said:

after winning previous matchups with margins of over 55,000 points, we've won exactly 1 game at the top tier without them, and by a margin of only 18k. this very matchup we are losing by 75,000 points, likely much more by friday night.


So there's only one week between December 7, the timestamp on the thread announcing PRX left SoS, and December 28, the date of SoS's last win?  That's some missing time shit right there.

Please respond in the form of another Space Jam analogy.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:47 AM

View PostCirus, on 04 January 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

You're a little bit premature

Sorry, I laughed and that was as far as I got and I couldn't read anything else until I got it out of my system...

Oh and I can prolly just copy/paste here what I put on official forums...

Pulls string, "The Jed said"

@Profgast, “SF from SBI, frag it Jed, one of these days I’m actually gonna catch your golem rush on the scoutdar and stop it before it gets too far. See if I don’t.” We’ll see, I’ve been less golem rushes so the team has to work harder for what they takePosted Image I don’t want to do the same thing over and over, hell, we might even start using portal bombs again! Something we haven’t really utilized in like 5 weeks, kinda forgot we had mesmers willing to still play their mesmers.
@The drama in this thread, daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyymmmm.
@SoS and JQ, I enjoyed the fights as usual, I’m not a guy that plays for score, unless it’s like ladder ranking for my team. Unfortunately this isn’t engineered like that and I don’t want to stress over a ppt I ultimately can’t control, unless I recruit in all timezones over the world 'work in progressPosted Image' All of your teams collectively fight hard and bring it, I love it, if it wasn’t for your teams out there I wouldn’t have as much enjoyment in this game. We enjoy doing a lot of hand to hand combat and you guys get out there with us, it’s fun as hell. WvW has not gotten old for my team to say the least. You help us get creative in our tactics and creative in our open field tactics, this is what the game is all about for me personally. Thank you for keeping it enjoyable.
@SBI going to T2, I think you will have to bust tail even harder to get us down to T2. We have some stubborn teams. Oh and we’re doing the thing where we turn PvE guilds in to WvW guilds and giving them tours of the facilities, let’s see if we pull more in to WvWPosted Image

#424 angelrage

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:58 AM

View PostStinky Garbage, on 04 January 2013 - 08:46 AM, said:

So there's only one week between December 7, the timestamp on the thread announcing PRX left SoS, and December 28, the date of SoS's last win?  That's some missing time shit right there.

Please respond in the form of another Space Jam analogy.

The impact of Michael Jordan on his peers is greater than just him being better at basketball than some high-cholesterol alien possessing Charles Barkley's "mojo" (in this case, Jade Quarry, SBI is totally Muggsy).

When SoS drank the PRX water in the locker room at halftime, we DID get better at WvW, not because we had practiced our drills or created relationships that brought in more coverage, but because PRX made people believe SoS was better, people like to play when they win and because PRX joining the team cemented a bunch of new transfers for us. When Michael left the TuneSquad, he made sure the characters he left behind still believed in themselves. When PRX left SoS, the interest they brought to the wvw scene and the guilds that came with them didn't just pack up and head to Europe (although some of them were repeatedly invited :P), because those guilds still believed in SoS (or didn't believe in multi-lingual EU servers). And while that lingering inspiration is kind of cool, its not the same as if Michael was still on the team.

Not giving PRX credit for the bandwaggon transfers they brought to SoS that didn't leave with them is like not giving Jordan credit for the TuneSquad's moderately successful and largely undocumented late season victory over the Mouseketeers.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

View Postangelrage, on 04 January 2013 - 07:50 AM, said:

not everyone wants to be in T1. contrary to popular belief, the middle tiers are "better" for a good wvw experience. more small group fighting. I left SBI for dragonbrand, joined SKY, then SKY came to SoS (which was fine with me, they were still a mid tier server). On a personal level, its frustrating to see SoS bash a server I still have friends on. this server certainly isn't better than any other I've been on.

Edit: and that was also no shortage of creepy. get a hobby.

While I can't say I necessarily approve of Agg's approach to the WM issue, I've never personally seen ATac doing anything wrong.  I *have* seen ATac maligned many times but every time that I've run with them they've been on the level.  Maybe I'm on at the wrong times, maybe it was an isolated incident that was taken care of, I don't know.  But from my perspective I've never seen this ATac do anything wrong.

Also... SoS still a mid tier server?  Let's be "creepy" again and check timestamps.  Simple enough given the way computers, the internet, and forums in particular work.  Last post claiming to be in SBI, Nov 1st.   SoS entry into Tier 2: Week of Nov 1st.  SoS entry into T1: Week of Nov 16th.  Mid tiered server?  Maybe our definitions differ.

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#426 angelrage

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 10:33 AM

View PostProfGast, on 04 January 2013 - 10:16 AM, said:

While I can't say I necessarily approve of Agg's approach to the WM issue, I've never personally seen ATac doing anything wrong.  I *have* seen ATac maligned many times but every time that I've run with them they've been on the level.  Maybe I'm on at the wrong times, maybe it was an isolated incident that was taken care of, I don't know.  But from my perspective I've never seen this ATac do anything wrong.

Also... SoS still a mid tier server?  Let's be "creepy" again and check timestamps.  Simple enough given the way computers, the internet, and forums in particular work.  Last post claiming to be in SBI, Nov 1st.   SoS entry into Tier 2: Week of Nov 1st.  SoS entry into T1: Week of Nov 16th.  Mid tiered server?  Maybe our definitions differ.

lesson learned: if you make a space jam analogy, people will research you, check time stamps and fact check the $%!+ out of you, because it has to be taken seriously. to admit my own fault, its probably not fair to associate the behavior of a handful with something that is condoned by a guild as a whole, and on Guru, talking about exploiters no matter how much of detriment they are to the gaming community is like talking about fightclub, so maybe another time.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:47 AM

View PostCirus, on 04 January 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

I would like to congratulate SBI and JQ on their consistency of being the kings of tier 1. You may like to belittle SoS Vihar, because we've only having been in tier 1 for 6 weeks, but we've won it more times than the combined man power of 32 weeks that SBI and JQ have had while in tier 1. :P

So I'd hate to disappoint you Vihar, but SoS isn't going anywhere, we're here to stay!

  I'm stating a fact.

   All Tier 1 servers bleed strength over time.

   Your server is asking for T2 server to reach T1. That server will have coverage that will be superior to yours, because they will be enthusiastic and energized. JQ will have coverage that is superior to yours.

   Your coverage will be weaker next week than it is this week.

  That's just a fact.

   This is the way T1 works.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:36 PM

For the next match up, all Servers should be looking at themselves, and what they are going to do, not planning for what the others do.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:11 PM

View PostProfGast, on 04 January 2013 - 10:16 AM, said:

While I can't say I necessarily approve of Agg's approach to the WM issue, I've never personally seen ATac doing anything wrong.  I *have* seen ATac maligned many times but every time that I've run with them they've been on the level.  Maybe I'm on at the wrong times, maybe it was an isolated incident that was taken care of, I don't know.  But from my perspective I've never seen this ATac do anything wrong.

they dont do wrong but i am willing to bet thousands of gold that soon atac, tsym and their alliance will jump to kaineng when sos falls, much like they did when leaving dragonbrand, only this time itll be for korean coverage... HO SNAPSSSSSS bandwagon more brohams

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:40 PM

Interesting thought. If JQ nose-dived like, say, ET did, would I stay? At what point would my loyalty be trumped by falling into a Tier in which I can't get the big battles I crave? And where would I go?

These thoughts they haunt me.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:08 PM

View PostVihar, on 04 January 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:

  I'm stating a fact.

   All Tier 1 servers bleed strength over time.

   Your server is asking for T2 server to reach T1. That server will have coverage that will be superior to yours, because they will be enthusiastic and energized. JQ will have coverage that is superior to yours.

   Your coverage will be weaker next week than it is this week.

  That's just a fact.

   This is the way T1 works.

It's not a fact, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

If Blackgate were to enter tier 1 they might destroy everyone and finish first, they might not?! Who knows, we have never faced them before and unless we do we'll never know, bring it on!

Sea of Sorrows was winning this match up by a comfortable 10k lead up until New Years Eve. Over NYE and New Years day we conceded 20,000 points to JQ. It was a massive momentum shift and if we were good enough we would still be able to fight back in the later half of the week and recover from it, however we were unable to (for the first time in over 3 months) and JQ are the deserved victors.

Next week Sea of Sorrows will have a stronger showing then it has shown in the later half of this week, I'm 100% certain of it. I'm looking forward to the fights :)

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:14 PM

I've been waiting a couple months for this, but now I'm ready.


lol at only winning during a holiday
lol at us getting 2v1
lol at zerg guild
lol at free transfers
lol at wvw is dead and it only really mattered for the last 6ish weeks and now it doesn't matter at all

Let me sum it up, SoS was the greatest server only when it mattered and JQQ is lucky and SBI is garbage.  SoS are the comeback kids that are all around dominant (again, only when it mattered) and now JQQ is only winning because of the holiday and also wvw is dead.  Did I get it all?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:16 PM

View PostTed Theodore Logan, on 04 January 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

I've been waiting a couple months for this, but now I'm ready.


lol at only winning during a holiday
lol at us getting 2v1
lol at zerg guild
lol at free transfers
lol at wvw is dead and it only really mattered for the last 6ish weeks and now it doesn't matter at all

Let me sum it up, SoS was the greatest server only when it mattered and JQQ is lucky and SBI is garbage.  SoS are the comeback kids that are all around dominant (again, only when it mattered) and now JQQ is only winning because of the holiday and also wvw is dead.  Did I get it all?

add 'being late to tier 1', 3 months after launch to be exact

u also pushed hard during the pve event, and also christmas, but not new years LOL

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:17 PM

View Postangelrage, on 04 January 2013 - 07:27 AM, said:

saying "we've won it" implies that our server ACTUALLY won the t1 bracket.

is there anyone on our server that really believes we got better over time and came in and showed T1 how its done? cause last time I checked, some professionals who are paid to play video games ALL day as an ACTUAL job moved to our server, convinced a large number of people to come with them, carried us to the top, won a few times, and then they left for Europe to prove they can make any server number 1 anywhere, (and im sure they will succeed).

after winning previous matchups with margins of over 55,000 points, we've won exactly 1 game at the top tier without them, and by a margin of only 18k. this very matchup we are losing by 75,000 points, likely much more by friday night.

SoS is like the Loony Toons in Space Jam. We think we were getting beat badly at the half, then all of a sudden we drank some magic water and got good at basketball and showed the MonStars how to dribble like pro's.
No. We had f*ing Michael Jordan on our team. That's why we won. Michael is gone now. He has a wife to cheat on and kids to scar and new careers to fail at, he's never coming back and we're not going to beat the MonStars if they ever kidnap Muggsy Bogues again and demand a rematch.

Yes, I just used a space jam reference to deliver a reality check. we're going back to the tier we came from (maybe a little higher), and we'll see who "we" really are when the T1 limelight goes away. PRX made us champs, we didn't do it as some magical perseverant server community like those on JQ or SBI, so lets not throw our wins in their faces, its only going to make us look bad later.

Just about every point in this post is completely infactual.

I've read over it again, and no actually, every single point you've raised is infactual except the current scoreline against JQ. :P

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

View PostTed Theodore Logan, on 04 January 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

I've been waiting a couple months for this, but now I'm ready.


lol at only winning during a holiday
lol at us getting 2v1
lol at zerg guild
lol at free transfers
lol at wvw is dead and it only really mattered for the last 6ish weeks and now it doesn't matter at all

Let me sum it up, SoS was the greatest server only when it mattered and JQQ is lucky and SBI is garbage.  SoS are the comeback kids that are all around dominant (again, only when it mattered) and now JQQ is only winning because of the holiday and also wvw is dead.  Did I get it all?

based on what I have read from quite a few SoS posters I think you did get it all yes.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:24 PM

View PostCalmLittleBuddy, on 04 January 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Interesting thought. If JQ nose-dived like, say, ET did, would I stay? At what point would my loyalty be trumped by falling into a Tier in which I can't get the big battles I crave? And where would I go?

These thoughts they haunt me.

That's JQ's advantage that the core was built during BWE of older more experience guilds many with DAOC experience where fighting the long fight was the norm. Though we fight for first place it's the fight not the server WvW rating that keeps us going. It's a contrast of older vrs younger where you see more loyalty among the older JQ guilds. Sure we have had guilds leave but they left due to the longer ques for months on WvW. Looks at some of these guilds on SoS, BG, and even some on SBI they have moved servers so many times they do not even have an identity.

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When Jade Quarry awakens, they will ask themselves, when were we ever asleep?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:31 PM

View PostCirus, on 04 January 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

It's not a fact, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

If Blackgate were to enter tier 1 they might destroy everyone and finish first, they might not?! Who knows, we have never faced them before and unless we do we'll never know, bring it on!



Nah they were already here.

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View PostBarab, on 04 January 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

That's JQ's advantage that the core was built during BWE of older more experience guilds many with DAOC experience where fighting the long fight was the norm. Though we fight for first place it's the fight not the server WvW rating that keeps us going. It's a contrast of older vrs younger where you see more loyalty among the older JQ guilds. Sure we have had guilds leave but they left due to the longer ques for months on WvW. Looks at some of these guilds on SoS, BG, and even some on SBI they have moved servers so many times they do not even have an identity.

ummm jq had a lot of bandwagons in the beginning because you guys were doing exceptionally well, sbi has more gw1 vets, don't make me start disliking JQ, too. i only have so much hate to disperse :P

but you are right, more than half of sos guilds are not native. it'll be interesting to see where they go next, instead of researching builds and gear, and recruiting, they will jus hop on over to probably, say, JQ. enjoy the flood of new bandwagons on your server, JQ! incoming queue times!! :P

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:47 PM

View PostCirus, on 04 January 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

It's not a fact, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

If Blackgate were to enter tier 1 they might destroy everyone and finish first, they might not?! Who knows, we have never faced them before and unless we do we'll never know, bring it on!

Sea of Sorrows was winning this match up by a comfortable 10k lead up until New Years Eve. Over NYE and New Years day we conceded 20,000 points to JQ. It was a massive momentum shift and if we were good enough we would still be able to fight back in the later half of the week and recover from it, however we were unable to (for the first time in over 3 months) and JQ are the deserved victors.

Next week Sea of Sorrows will have a stronger showing then it has shown in the later half of this week, I'm 100% certain of it. I'm looking forward to the fights :)

  My post is based on the the observed history of Tier 1.

  Thus, basis in fact.

   Your post is nothing but a bunch of "if's".

   As a former Red Sox manager once said, "If frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their booty."

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:35 PM

View PostVihar, on 04 January 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

  My post is based on the the observed history of Tier 1.

  Thus, basis in fact.

   Your post is nothing but a bunch of "if's".

   As a former Red Sox manager once said, "If frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their booty."

Your post is your opinion based on your observation, it's not fact, you cannot predict the future and make conclusions without sufficient evidence and call it fact.

You have no idea what Blackgate will do if they were to to reach tier 1, neither do I, this is why the "if" hypothetical is so important and helps accuracy when making predictions. Historical evidence of Blackgate counters your so called "facts" :)

It's not unreasonable for SoS players to want fight a fresh and new competitor, even if it means we may be defeated by them.

SoS may not be as strong as they were a month ago, but that is natural in WvW for all servers. The participation rate of WvW has been slowly decaying since the game came out on August 25th. But that doesn't matter, we WvW because we love it and it's lots of fun. But to claim that Sea of Sorrows will be weaker next week than it has been this week and to claim it as fact is fantasy. It could be true, it might not be, you don't know, you have never encountered a server like Sea of Sorrows before.

As for myself that knows my server and has been on it since Beta Weekend 3, unlike you I've seen my server have a community split, take a dive through the tiers, I've seen tier 4, I've seen 3, I've seen tier 2, my server has won tier 1 for 6 weeks in a row, I've seen my server fight in every single week of those match ups, you haven't, now that's fact! :P

In my opinion, based on the past 5 months of playing on Sea of Sorrows, I don't think we will be weaker than we were this week.

In your opinion, you think we will be, but please don't try to call it a fact.

There is a saying, a wise man can learn a lot from a fool, but a fool cannot learn from a wise man. :)

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

View PostCirus, on 04 January 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:


You have no idea what Blackgate will do if they were to to reach tier 1, neither do I, this is why the "if" hypothetical is so important and helps accuracy when making predictions. Historical evidence of Blackgate counters your so called "facts" :)


You must've missed my earlier message.  I know exactly what they would do, they've already been here.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

First of all, we have fought BG on more than one matchup. They are not "unknown" to us.

Second of all, you say that "we have never encountered a server like SoS before".

Sure we have.

  Most of your guilds we have fought before when they were on other servers.

  I am telling you what has occurred on every server that arrives here, including mine and JQ.

  My prediction is another T1 second place finish for SoS, followed by a lot of transfers off the server to some other server.

   Blackgate 2.0

  That's my prediction.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:05 PM

View PostVihar, on 04 January 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

First of all, we have fought BG on more than one matchup. They are not "unknown" to us.

Second of all, you say that "we have never encountered a server like SoS before".

Sure we have.

  Most of your guilds we have fought before when they were on other servers.

  I am telling you what has occurred on every server that arrives here, including mine and JQ.

  My prediction is another T1 second place finish for SoS, followed by a lot of transfers off the server to some other server.

   Blackgate 2.0

  That's my prediction.

From the looks of some things I think this is already happening.  Perhaps they'll still pop back yet, it's unknown.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:09 PM

View PostCirus, on 04 January 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:


In your opinion, you think we will be, but please don't try to call it a fact.

There is a saying, a wise man can learn a lot from a fool, but a fool cannot learn from a wise man. :)

i think youre getting caught up in semantics. it doesnt matter if its his fact or an opinion, its at least a logical prediction. people came to SoS because PRX promised visions of easy wins and solid coordination. they left, the coordination wanes, now SoS is left with guys like Aggression sending nasty messages to guys in WM, you are down by 77k.

server transfers are free. you can, right now, go be on the winning team and act like it was all you if thats your thing. for a lot of people, its their thing. "if" you guys perform next week like you performed this week, it is highly probable that the fairweather guilds that came with PRX and carried you to the top will leave. hell, had PRX not gone to PvDoor some euroserver, they probably wouldve left you already.

then again, if SBI plays next week like it did this week, we will probably see you a bit on the way down. or maybe WM will come back and save us once your gone?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

Wow, way to not stay classy everyone.

JQ has been pushing  hard for weeks now and it's not really a surprise that they have managed to win a match.  Of course this is met with a flood of "we've been here the whole time" boasting and "SoS is going down" from people who claim to be on SoS but don't list their server or guild.

It's just one week, and flukes do happen.  JQ shouldn't start bragging until they've won at least 2 in a row, and people should not start calling for SoS's demise until we drop below 2nd.

JQ and SoS have both brought in large numbers of new players, many new to the game (a lot of people got this game for Christmas).  Only a fool would believe that this will not have greater impact as the weeks continue.

I think we'll be fighting over first for a long time.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:44 PM

View Postchuckles79, on 04 January 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:



It's just one week, and flukes do happen.  JQ shouldn't start bragging until they've won at least 2 in a row, and people should not start calling for SoS's demise until we drop below 2nd.



That's the rub. JQ isnt bragging at all but we did work hard all week. We earned this win. We have been a consistent fighting force for longer than any server in t1 but you will rarely hear anyone from JQ mention it nor the fact that we lead all NA severs in week match medals.  I know the consensus is we respect the leadership and players from both SBI and SoS. We welcome the challenge going forward. We also know we have another knuckle dragger coming this week after punching SoS in the face this week.

On a side note I think second place in t1 is the bitch position even if the most challenging. You have the number one server pounding on you to keep you away and the bottom third server fighting you to bring you back down.

View PostKurthos, on 23 January 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

When Jade Quarry awakens, they will ask themselves, when were we ever asleep?

#447 Cirus

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:02 PM

View PostQuietnine, on 04 January 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

i think youre getting caught up in semantics. it doesnt matter if its his fact or an opinion, its at least a logical prediction. people came to SoS because PRX promised visions of easy wins and solid coordination. they left, the coordination wanes, now SoS is left with guys like Aggression sending nasty messages to guys in WM, you are down by 77k.

server transfers are free. you can, right now, go be on the winning team and act like it was all you if thats your thing. for a lot of people, its their thing. "if" you guys perform next week like you performed this week, it is highly probable that the fairweather guilds that came with PRX and carried you to the top will leave. hell, had PRX not gone to PvDoor some euroserver, they probably wouldve left you already.

then again, if SBI plays next week like it did this week, we will probably see you a bit on the way down. or maybe WM will come back and save us once your gone?

PRX didn't promise anything to anyone, they came on their own in secrecy. They left on their own in secrecy. They didn't bring anyone with them either. They don't like bandwagoners to follow them and ruin servers like what the bandwagoners did to HoD.

A call was made out to the Americans of Guild Wars 2 to join Sea of Sorrows, it was a low tier server, with a friendly and strongly based Oceanian community. It was the only American server in Guild Wars 2 that lacked an American population. The call was answered from various American guilds, a large chunk of them were Alliance of Insurrection from Dragonband, PRX plus various others, and they all joined at around a similar time, having no idea who was also transferring with them.

The new influx of transfers started coming over at the end of the Fort Aspenwood vs Maguuma matchup, where Sea of Sorrows had narrowly lost to Fort Aspenwood in tier 4. Everyone that has transferred over to this server has absolutely loved it, and has been blown away by it's community and have been proud to call it their home. They are welcomed with open arms. Be it 13 weeks ago or 2 weeks ago.

PRX in my opinion are the best and most highly organized guild to have played in America. They were the star guild of Sea of Sorrows and they did immense work to help bring up those around them and lead by example. However everything that was achieved on our server was solely credited to PRX by the opposition. PRX were frequently getting accolades and credit on maps that by their own admittance, they weren't even present on. The GW2 public has put PRX on a status where as if they are some mythical God, that are perfect in every way and are the cause of everything good. PRX themselves however have never been ones to blow their own trumpet and have always been nothing but humble and have acknowledged those that put in the hard work and effort.

As for the match up, you're right. Any one of those things can happen. The scoreline right now is terrible,SoS has been defeated for the first time in 13 weeks, this is what giving up looks like :(, full credit must go to Jade Quarry for achieving this victory, they've been amazing these last few weeks. Imo it's when a server is losing that it's truly tested, it will be interesting to see if SBI and SoS can bounce back next week. I'm confident that we can :)

Edited by Cirus, 04 January 2013 - 06:13 PM.


#448 Xsesshoumaru

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:06 PM

from what i've seen BG has changed a little since their last trip to t1 and i think they could compete here and win(just my opinion).
"My prediction is another T1 second place finish for SoS, followed by a lot of transfers off the server to some other server."
I predict SoS coming out strong next week, feeling like they have to prove they belong here.

"But I think the SoS people wanting a new server in the match, haven't thought past the consequences of that, because JQ isn't going anywhere"
i think you're falling into that mindset of everyone is playing for score :)
I don't see any consequences to it, fresh faces and new opponents. if we lose we lose it happens. but i think we all like to face a new challenge and see other servers step there game up. i stopped caring about rank and tiers awhile ago, like i think a lot of us have its just about the fights now.. well until they actually add some rewards for winning.
"Yeah Xsess, don't feed the trolls it makes them feel "special" and also fills the thread with fluff"
lol this thread already has so much fluff though, but its the good kinda of fluff that makes you laugh and enjoy it. and not the evil kind that makes you want to punch babies, well for the most part

#449 Jedbacca

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:16 PM

According to http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA SoS and SBI took roughly the same amt of point reduction.  Just eyeballing things from activity this past week, things seemed to be dying down with less zergs in general from the SoS side.  Yet, we can toss the laundry list of the three servers in to the mix.  Guess we'll see how volatile next week is for our servers, maybe next week SoS will be the server to speak of dropping to T2!  Maybe it will be JQ, or even SBI for two weeks in a row!  Will there be renewed energy for the servers?  On the next DRAGON BALL Z!

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:25 PM

View PostJedbacca, on 04 January 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:

According to http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA SoS and SBI took roughly the same amt of point reduction.  Just eyeballing things from activity this past week, things seemed to be dying down with less zergs in general from the SoS side.  Yet, we can toss the laundry list of the three servers in to the mix.  Guess we'll see how volatile next week is for our servers, maybe next week SoS will be the server to speak of dropping to T2!  Maybe it will be JQ, or even SBI for two weeks in a row!  Will there be renewed energy for the servers?  On the next DRAGON BALL Z!

I think we will all drop to tier 2!  Yaaaaay!




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