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#1 Junglizm

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:29 AM

Good luck everyone!

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:05 AM

So, 2-3 hours in... how's it looking so far?

#3 Junglizm

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:50 AM

CD    8002   +350
IOJ    6535   +190*
FA     5707  +155
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CD coming out strong.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:54 AM

Had lots of good fights on FA Borderlands today running our guys with the ND crew. Was pretty even 3-way all day until FA/CD lost some activity around the time EST goes to bed. FA then appeared to consolidate all of their manpower onto that one map close to midnight PST, which made things exciting again.

By far the most fun was the 1-2 hour brawl inside Bay. Lots of intense fighting and lots of loot. FA eventually prevailed and took the keep, but not until expending 10+ trebuchets and outnumbering our skeleton crew 3:1 (if outmanned is any indication). My favorite part was the corpse dancing when I'd go to scout the treb emplacements, always gives me a chuckle; next time I wish you'd encourage the Asura to dance, Charr are atrocious dancers. Oh and get better area deniers. ;)

Have to give props to some of the guilds that brought good fights on our BL, like PTX and PRO from FA, and G(s?..a? it starts with a G) from CD. Probably a couple others I'm missing, though I'm sure I'll get to loot your corpses and proffer mine unto you enough times over the coming weeks to learn them. Will be interesting to see if the fun fights can keep up later in the week, seeing as this week is intersected by Christmas.

Happy Holidays all ye combatants. All of you are on Jacbo Claus' naughty list and will only be getting a healthy dose of pain in your stocking this year.

EDIT: Score update for those interested. CD showing the best turnout in the early going. FA and IoJ may need to lay off the eggnog if there's to be any comebacks as the week progresses.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

oops wrong thread !~

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:52 PM

It'll be interesting to see what happens when CD hit their usual numbers slump around... now in fact.  The last few weeks CD have been brutal during this time slot and always had strong resets too but then from EU Evenings onwards they'd not have the coverage to keep up the pressure (and ended up losing out on the overall score because of it.)

#7 Pyraeus

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:02 AM

Hopefully we will get to be green in a fort night or next week. :) Will be nice to be the new "tier 3 captain", carrying on from TC's tier 3 domination. Unfortunately FA won't get a chance to go to tier 4 because Yaks is struggling this week. (Unfortunate because they have been losing every week for the past few weeks).
Good luck all, IoJ starting to put up some resistance!

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 12:09 PM

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Cannon Fodder provided by Fort Aspenwood <3

Score Update

IOJ  138k +360*
FA   132k +180
CD    126k   +155
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Edited by Junglizm, 26 December 2012 - 12:10 PM.


#9 Pyraeus

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:18 PM

Update on the score.

Don't give up hope CD!

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Undecided who will be second yet, probably IoJ will win. Between FA and CD for second. Looking close.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:03 AM

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Score update. Looks like it's still a very close fight for second; we seem to be gaining ground in first. Will be interesting to see how the fight carries into next week, once the initial "new matchup smell" disappears from all three servers.

Yesterday the fight was all over CD Borderlands (I think it all flipped 4-5 times), today the fight has been all over FA Borderlands (though they've managed to hold onto Garrison). Wherever the fights happen to be, they've been good, so keep 'em coming.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:39 PM

A day early, but this is Unlimited's weekly recap video of the Christmas Week Mathcup.



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Posted 27 December 2012 - 06:11 PM

Forgot to Christmas Holiday WvW Video


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:21 PM

Very good!

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:22 PM

View PostJunglizm, on 26 December 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

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Wow, that video doesn't do that fight justice.  I was the guardian on the frontline, and I easily got twice the exp as kylia and a much better view of how many FA there were (I got around 70 kills total).

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:47 AM

View PostJacbo, on 27 December 2012 - 08:03 AM, said:



Score update. Looks like it's still a very close fight for second; we seem to be gaining ground in first. Will be interesting to see how the fight carries into next week, once the initial "new matchup smell" disappears from all three servers.

Yesterday the fight was all over CD Borderlands (I think it all flipped 4-5 times), today the fight has been all over FA Borderlands (though they've managed to hold onto Garrison). Wherever the fights happen to be, they've been good, so keep 'em coming.
Fight is always CD BL. never changes. thought this week would be good, but it appears we have been double teamed. IoJ and FA barely touch each others lands.
Disappointed.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:29 PM

View PostPyraeus, on 28 December 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Fight is always CD BL. never changes. thought this week would be good, but it appears we have been double teamed. IoJ and FA barely touch each others lands.
Disappointed.

Nobody has double teamed anyone. There have been fights on all borderlands at various times.

Edited by Jacbo, 28 December 2012 - 08:35 PM.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:16 PM

View Postquenta, on 27 December 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

Forgot to Christmas Holiday WvW Video

Sweet, a new Quenta video! You have a great singing voice! It must have been that summer you spent as a backup singer for the Chipmonks. :P

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:05 PM

View PostPyraeus, on 28 December 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Fight is always CD BL. never changes. thought this week would be good, but it appears we have been double teamed. IoJ and FA barely touch each others lands.
Disappointed.

We made it a point to go after your BL when you guys had the lead, but it does seem like IoJ has been there more than on FA since the lead was lost.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:53 AM

Things a bit better this week, IoJ putting a lot of pressure on us, but FA aren't doing too much. Looks like we are putting our pressure into FA this week. Lol, payback :P

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:10 PM

IoJ takes the lead :D

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:06 PM

We doubleteam all the time. We take on two teams, CD, and FA, at the same time. <3

See you guys tonight.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:13 AM

Had a great time tonight in FA borderlands. Turned the map red to green, and had plenty of uphills battles to remember. Thanks to PTX and ULT for their great coordination.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:33 PM

Oh so that's where Legacy went :C Haven't seen you since bwe.

So that's why I only see zergs on IoJ.

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Went to WvW for the first time in a long time, took out camping FA in EB Puzzle with some of my guildies, was lots of fun xD

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:55 PM

View PostKeaghan, on 31 December 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

Went to WvW for the first time in a long time, took out camping FA in EB Puzzle with some of my guildies, was lots of fun xD

Productive too, I'm sure. :P
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#25 Jacbo

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 10:44 PM

View PostFreelancer, on 31 December 2012 - 05:13 AM, said:

Had a great time tonight in FA borderlands. Turned the map red to green, and had plenty of uphills battles to remember. Thanks to PTX and ULT for their great coordination.

This. RUN had a lot of fun out there as well. Always a good time working with and against other strong guilds.

View PostKeaghan, on 31 December 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

So that's why I only see zergs on IoJ.

IoJ is Protoss, we just have a higher unit count than you do; maybe improve your macro. ;)

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 11:58 AM

View PostJacbo, on 31 December 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:



This. RUN had a lot of fun out there as well. Always a good time working with and against other strong guilds.



IoJ is Protoss, we just have a higher unit count than you do; maybe improve your macro. ;)
You forgot to mention that all our players also have very high apms.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:24 PM

My gawd, IoJs. Your ND guild is operating like 24 hours ? and how many guild members do they have? Everytime we encounter the, they always field massive zergs. And no, protoss is not what they/ or you guys are.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:15 AM

If you think we are a zerg, you should see T1-T2.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:07 AM

View Posthoplite, on 01 January 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

My gawd, IoJs. Your ND guild is operating like 24 hours ? and how many guild members do they have? Everytime we encounter the, they always field massive zergs. And no, protoss is not what they/ or you guys are.

I wish a sociologist could get a hold of the communiques of all three servers in a WvW match to analyze the trends of complaint. I think the results would be quite hilarious.

The term zerg is funny to me, it's thrown around so haphazardly. Apparently to this tier, any 20+ people constitutes a zerg. In Tier 2, it was 40+ people. In Tier 1, it was more still. I wonder if Ferguson's Crossing considers 6 people to be a zerg? I guess 2 people can be a zerg. After all they could be zerging 1 guy, and that's 2:1 odds, so it's mathematically no different than 80v40.

To me, a "zerg" is any large, unruly group of players. I lead some zergs, in the loosest sense of the word lead, whenever my guild and others aren't raiding and I take it upon myself to organize. Here's some characteristics of a zerg:
  • A zerg doesn't listen even if you spam chat with explicit instructions. Some zerglings may even berate a commander for presuming to "tell them what to do".
  • A zerg doesn't understand the mechanics of a fight, it only understands individual preservation. If a zergling is found within max pew range, it either wasn't paying attention or got pulled there.
  • A zerg won't stop forward momentum and has to be turned in gradual degrees; if you do an about face, it doesn't matter if you have 7 commander icons, you'll be twiddling your thumbs with a couple people while the rest charge on to the nearest capturable objective.
  • A zerg never does anything remotely inventive, and most times will PvDoor for a little while before some enterprising zergling decides to throw a ram down under the oil.
Those are just a few characteristics of a zerg. All servers have them, during all timezones. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.

I'd also like to shout out to PTX and ULTD from FA, and KH from CD. Your guilds are, thus far, the only ones which have shown me something interesting I hadn't seen before. Which is not to say there aren't other guilds that have done well here and there, just that I've only needed to formulate any new counters when faced with one of these three guilds so far. To the other guilds that keep bringing the fights, keep em coming, we've had a lot of fun these last two weeks.

Edited by Jacbo, 02 January 2013 - 09:23 AM.


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:34 AM

Thats the thing with zergs... they are all relative.




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