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#31 witteker


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 08:50 PM

strategy is strategy.  2.75m is chum change.  A company has to make decision on where to focus resources.  If they put more resources into GW2, better for GW2.

#32 Quinch


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 02:07 AM

Witteker, the difference is that closing down Paragon Studio wasn't a refocus of resources, it was an amputation - the developers weren't reassigned, they were fired, and everything simply closed down. It's possible NCsoft was expecting to refocus the players into either GW2 or Blade and Soul, but as you can probably guess, that kind of backfired.

But more importantly, that line of thinking implies that it's okay to do, well, pretty much anything, in the name of a "strategic decision", regardless of how it affects tens or even hundreds of thousands of others in the process. Will you feel the same when GW1 shuts down, and is ensured to stay shut down in a year or two as a result of a strategic decision? What about GW2, once its time to be replaced comes? I hope not.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:22 AM

I'm not sure Anet are listening or that they are being forced/told/gagged not to.  I said it in the game early on that if they didn't listen to us it would become another BF3 fiasco and it seems to be becoming exactly that.

The drops, my alt's are pointless to play because they have up to 15 levels since the last relevant drop.  Anet need to tell the people making decisions atm to shove it and they know better.  Current decision makers should not get any Christmas pudding.

Events, I used to hang around like a bad smell for almost the entire duration of the events like Halloween and Wintersday in GW1. currently my only reason to login to GW2 is to chat with Guildies.

I get that Anet probably owe a lot of cash used in development to NCSoft and Nexon but they really need to tell them that they know more about what the GW fans want than them and to back off (providing that Anet still have the same employees that they did for GW1).

#34 Lucas Ashrock

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:45 AM

Agree. But gw1 staff is not the gw2 one at all, gw2 staff has 0 idea how gw1 managed his success, how to manage in general an mmo with design and long term goals, how to not cut your own legs releasing junk leading customers to bash the main forum and leave :P
What we have now is just a commercial product with the 2 near a old great name, not sharing even the lore with it.
Just a net for dumb fish and make some money on their foolinesh until all of them leave, then abandon it to someone or shutdown. Fraud, scam, call it whatever you like ;)

Edited by Lucas Ashrock, 27 December 2012 - 04:46 AM.

#35 Wayshuba


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:23 AM

View Postwitteker, on 26 December 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

strategy is strategy.  2.75m is chum change.  A company has to make decision on where to focus resources.  If they put more resources into GW2, better for GW2.

A $12M profitable business is not chump change. If the resources were only committed to that business and it was turning a profit without detracting from other areas of the business, then it should have been left alone. But it wasn't.

Secondly, a 43% drop in stock price (eroding almost half of the company's value) because investors saw it as a very poor decision is definitely not chump change.

FYI, GW1 was only doing $3M per year in the last few years before GW2 release. Fact is, GW2 is going to be under a ton of pressure to produce massive amounts of revenue, which means massive monetization. Watch, the Maple Story changes will be coming. This year is a bit of a leeway because the game released, so the box sales contribute. Next year will be telling.

Also, you may want to read employee comments on glassdoor.com. Appears NCSoft isn't too fond of ANY of their North American or European companies or audiences.

Edited by Wayshuba, 27 December 2012 - 11:24 AM.

#36 witteker


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 02:50 PM

It is what it is.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:30 PM

Yeah, i log on to do daily jug of karma for wtv reason. I was so excited for this game but crap drops, silly RNG...you know I think the gem shop sucked the soul out of the GW world. Dont get me wrong I bought into it when gem:gold ratio spiked in halloween and wintersday. But this past event and the lack of any real progress, measly loot is insulting. Im done trying and feel bad for the wonderful talent at ANet.
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