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#1 Kymeric

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:21 PM

My new build I'm working with is http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tFZJ

At this point, I'm thinking I should wait until the day after Christmas sales to see what they bring.

These specs are well above what I need for my non-GW2 uses, which is Photoshop use and playing with Blender.  I'm hoping I can get high settings out of it for GW2 at 1920X1080.  I was originally thinking the 7770, but it looks like I can move up to the 7850 and stay in budget at this point. I'm not interested in overclocking, so hence the 3570 rather than the 3570k.

The big thing is that I want to make sure I haven't picked a dud in any of the brands.

Thanks in advance!

#2 Zerk2012

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 02:45 PM

View PostKymeric, on 22 December 2012 - 10:21 PM, said:

My new build I'm working with is http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tFZJ

At this point, I'm thinking I should wait until the day after Christmas sales to see what they bring.

These specs are well above what I need for my non-GW2 uses, which is Photoshop use and playing with Blender.  I'm hoping I can get high settings out of it for GW2 at 1920X1080.  I was originally thinking the 7770, but it looks like I can move up to the 7850 and stay in budget at this point. I'm not interested in overclocking, so hence the 3570 rather than the 3570k.

The big thing is that I want to make sure I haven't picked a dud in any of the brands.

Thanks in advance!
Well bad memory choice 1066 MHz get something like this http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231416
I would spend a little more $ and get the 3570K chip for the overclocking http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20
If your not going to get the K series chip you could save a ton on the motherboard. http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20

Edited by Zerk2012, 23 December 2012 - 02:46 PM.


#3 Kymeric

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 03:18 PM

Thanks for the feedback!

I see what you're saying about the memory speed.  Changed it to a 1600 MHz.

I definitely don't want to mess with overclocking.  Guess I'm just risk-averse that way.  I'd rather just invest in components and get as long of a life out of them as possible.  Is the performance difference really that great?

As far as the MoBo, what is the difference there?  What does the overclocking have to do with it?

If I can really save that much on the MoBo, I can probably afford to upgrade the GPU to the 2G 7870 instead of the 1G 7850 I originally had.

Updated build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tLtr

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:36 PM

Personally, I'd stick with the original motherboard. It's better than the MSI B75 based one. Or you could compromise and try to find an unit with an H77 chipset somewhere between those two. Such as:
http://us.ncix.com/p...ufacture=ASRock

If you want to save a bit so you can afford a better video card, and you're not interested in OC'ing, you could consider practically any i5 CPU like the i5-3350P, 3450, 3550, etc - whichever has the best deal at the time. You won't see much (if any) difference in game performance.

Edited by Quaker, 23 December 2012 - 04:38 PM.


#5 Kymeric

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 12:10 PM

Thanks, Quaker.

I've seen people saying GW2 is pretty heavily CPU dependent, so I was going for the best of the i5s there, but if that's not going to make a huge difference, perhaps money is better put toward stepping up the gpu.

So many variables.

It'll be interesting to see what the after-Christmas sales look like.

#6 Kymeric

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 01:06 AM

View PostQuaker, on 23 December 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Personally, I'd stick with the original motherboard. It's better than the MSI B75 based one. Or you could compromise and try to find an unit with an H77 chipset somewhere between those two. Such as:
http://us.ncix.com/p...ufacture=ASRock

So, after some research, I'm seeing that the two advantages of Z77 over H77 is overclocking and support for multiple GPUs.

I don't think I'm using my machine for anything that would require multiple GPUs, but I'm starting to question my overclocking stance.  Am I going to wish I had the option down the road?

I've read that overclocking can shorten the life of the parts.  If so, what kind of shortening are we talking about?  Assuming overclocking within very conservative ranges (not pushing it too far), what's the cost/benefit expectation?  How much performance increase for how much shortened life?

And if I were to get into overclocking, I'm starting to look at a more expensive cooling system, right?

Currently, the 3570k is actually cheaper than the 3570, and all of the others (3350, 3450) are running withing 10$ of the 3570K.

EDIT: Looks like I can get a Z77 for the same price as the H77.

Current build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/uejx

Edited by Kymeric, 26 December 2012 - 07:54 PM.


#7 Quaker

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:09 PM

A conservative overclock won't (normally) shorten the life of the components enough to be a concern - they'll still be obsolete before they wear out.
The CM Hyper TX3 should be enough for a conservative OC.

On the other hand, a conservative overclock won't gain you much game performance. Overclocking is highly overrated. :)

Edited by Quaker, 27 December 2012 - 04:11 PM.


#8 Kymeric

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:06 PM

Thanks, Quaker.

Finally ordered parts.  Hoping to have all of them in to build this coming weekend.




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