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#1 Shadowhaxor

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 06:14 AM

I was a pretty casual -> hardcore -> casual World of Warcraft player that had been playing it since day one.  While I did try the Guild Wars 2 beta and that it was ok and I managed to pre-order the game and got access to the head start but eventually didn't go forth with it and caused my pre-order. Mostly due to Mists of Pandria.

Well after 3 level 90's, some end game and a bunch of rep grinding I caused my account 2 months ago and more than likely will not be going back to WoW. As much as I enjoyed it, it simply got stale and more of the same and damn those blasted rep grinds. So while I sat here playing games I neglected thanks to WoW I eventually went back to my Rift account since I had some time left but didn't really care for it.

Flash to today, I noticed that I had some promotional credit from Amazon and Guild Wars 2 was half off so I bit, installed it and now I'm staring at the two characters I made during the head start; Warrior and Engineer. But that leads me into my questions.

However exactly is GW2? I never game it a fair chance and to be honest I more was more than abit confused with the game seeing how the only MMO I really put time and effort into was WoW and Guild Wars 2 was clearly a different beast. So I'm looking for starters on enjoying the game and giving it an actually try. Classes; Since I was more a caster (Mage / Shaman), Endgame, Dungeons; something I never got a chance to try in the head start, crafting; I started on it and managed to do so-so, anything else a new comer would need to know, PVP vs PvE, guilds, etc....

I really want to like this game and put time into it, I mean it got MMO of 2012 for a reason and I want to know what they were.

Thanks in advance =)

#2 Sheepski

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

I think the best advice I can give you is:

To play the game dynamically. Don't rush the levels just to hit "max". Don't assume there are game determined objectives that must be completed etc.

Just run around, explore, gather, craft, wvw/pvp, take part in events etc to enjoy it. Remember that fun is the key.

Sure when you've played a fair amount you'll know what you like and dislike and you can create your own objectives.

Forget about gear grind/stat increases. It's pretty easy/cheap to get "max" standard armour and weapons (the " is cos of ascended gear, being rings and back piece atm) and most of my characters have multiple sets. The crux of it is the looks, skins can cost a lot of gold/time.

Lastly; don't worry about the rewards on offer for certain activities... just do it because it's fun. For example; I have objectives such as collect every ranger pet or w/e that gives me nothing (other than being able to use 5 different types of Moa :P) but it's fun and something to work on. Other objectives have been; 100% map completion, 200g saved for achievement, 8 level 80's etc. Some things will of course be good for money, equipment and achievement points, but don't get tied down with only these.


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#3 Heart Collector

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:07 PM

Pretty much what Sheepski suggested. GW2 is a game that is better enjoyed in a laid back way. It's more like a relaxing holiday on an island with the occasional bout of nightlife revelry rather than, say, an exciting safari :lol:

#4 BrownPatrick

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:18 PM

Dont rush!
Do whatever you want and feel, almost every activity gives you experience(crafting,farming,exploring...)
If you enjoyed Shaman in WoW, try Engineer. He is a mechanical shaman(turrets instead of totems, also very versatile and fun...)
The endgame basically starts at level 1. There is no drastic delimitation. So dont wait something very different at lvl 80.
Try WvWvW and SPvP, no matter what lvl you are.
Dont spend Karma till lvl 80 :)
Dont over use waypoints, you will get poor fast.
Complete maps at 100% before leaving it. Cool rewards and money.

One important thing in PvE. After an Dynamic event is finished dont run! You will lose the fun. Wait a couple a seconds to see if it chains further and enjoy.

Edited by BrownPatrick, 27 December 2012 - 03:19 PM.


#5 Sheepski

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:53 PM

View PostBrownPatrick, on 27 December 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:

Dont rush!
Do whatever you want and feel, almost every activity gives you experience(crafting,farming,exploring...)
If you enjoyed Shaman in WoW, try Engineer. He is a mechanical shaman(turrets instead of totems, also very versatile and fun...)
The endgame basically starts at level 1. There is no drastic delimitation. So dont wait something very different at lvl 80.
Try WvWvW and SPvP, no matter what lvl you are.
Dont spend Karma till lvl 80 :)
Dont over use waypoints, you will get poor fast.
Complete maps at 100% before leaving it. Cool rewards and money.

One important thing in PvE. After an Dynamic event is finished dont run! You will lose the fun. Wait a couple a seconds to see if it chains further and enjoy.

Excellent point; I see far too many people just run off and miss the next stage, which sometimes is/leads to an event rewarding a chest.

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#6 Gilles VI

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:20 PM

Everyone is always saying "don't rush", which makes no sens in my eyes, so I'm going to give you my side of the game.

I started at headstart, reached max level within 70h on 4 days, so yea I rushed according to most peoples standards, and still, I'm having a blast after 600h. :)
The game is totally different from WoW in 1 aspect: Levelling & chosing your own activities versus grinding to max level and starting to raid.

The most enjoyable part of your open world experience will be levelling your first character, the world is simply amazing, better than any game (singleplayer or multiplayer) I've ever played.
At max level (or at appropriate level) dungeons start to open up, from lvl30 on, which are quite nice in my opinion.
Other people don't like them, so it's a very personal subject.
Crafting is by far the easiest way to get max armor with the stats you want, so it's defenitely worth it.
Also when you're smart about trading it can be a big source of income.

WvW is huge open world PvP, but not just ganking low level noobs, it's on a big map with towers/keeps/supply camps/... and you can start it at lvl2.
Everyone will be max level, but the difference between a true max level with max gear and a beginner is big, so people still feel rewarded when they get levels there.

sPvP, the more serious PvP is also available from lvl2 and is quite nice, it's totally separate from PvE, with own ranks, armors, progression.
Everyone will be max level and get acces to all skills and any gear (stat-wise) with upgrades you want.
Progression in sPvP lies in titles and cosmetics, a beginner will have very bland armor while a veteran will get some nice looking gear.

Negatives (especially when you loved WoW)
  • No huge group content (raids,...)
  • No gear progression (not in WoW style anyway)
  • No different factions.
  • Not much to do at max level (yet)
    I'm very satisfied levelling alts (got 3 max lvl so far), running dungeons (i already said I love them), doing fractals (a quite hardcore dungeon which never ends), playing with friends, WvW and sPvP and tournaments.
To conclude, it's all very personal.
People say this game won't be for you if you're a hardcore gamer, which is not true, I'd consider myself pretty hardcore (about GW2 atleast) and I enjoy every minute I play.

#7 Sheepski

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:30 PM

For me, I agree with Gilles in that you don't have to be casual, or playing few hours. I play a lot of hours and enjoy it all, too.

My points were really surrounding the attitude that players go into a game with. We've seen a lot of people moan that they're bored because they've treated leveling as an obligatory grind that they have to get past asap. Then they've hit level 80 and wondered where their harder content giving better stats is; when really the whole game can be played at max level equally.

As I said there will be areas/activities that give more of something (gold, tokens, karma etc) than others, so if you want to achieve something then sure you'll do some of the high-end content. But you can also spend a lot of time doing map completion, achievement hunting etc which is spread out through the world.

That's not to say you can't get to level 80 in 4 days or w/e (think it took me about a week) as long as you're enjoying it and well "smelling the roses" so to say. My mindset was really something like "I can take my time doing this or that, there's no obligation to do x dungeon or y farm all the time, because stats aren't really important, and I can get max stats anyway. This game will be around for a long time, so why would I want to get all the armours and weapons today, and have less to do tomorrow".

Although I do get focused on certain activities and hammer them for a day or two to complete :P

But as BrownPatrick says: "Do whatever you want and feel like".

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