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[Rouzeki]

My main is an engineer and while I love it, I find myself drifting into a supporting role in WvWvW and I want to make a class for more ranged dps (grenades just don't do it for me).

Is there a build that is good for learning the ropes of the ranger?  Particularly one that I can pop into sPvP with right away.

I must admit, I don't typically like pet classes so I'm looking for a build that doesn't rely too heavily on pet attacks.  I understand the ranger is designed to rely on pets but what I mean is I'd like a build that isn't dependent on pet skills to make the kill but rather the pet is a bit more passive.

What do you guys think?  Is this plausible or should I try a different class?

[jeddahwe]

http://intothemists....G6;2jwmAjwmA9RJ

Try it out while messing around with weapon sets...Sword is arguably our best weapon and when used with torch gives you a great way to:

a) Fire combo field finisher by dropping torch 5 then using sword 2 twice
Sword 2 to jump back and away from your target, do a 180 and drop your target then press 2 to leap forward

Axe won't do any of that but it will stack weakness, bleed and chill!

Edit:  SB has THREE finishers!!!

http://www.mastodont...s/tool-combo#en

Edited by jeddahwe, 02 January 2013 - 05:49 PM.

[Straegen]

This is sort of my build which gets adjusted depending on what I am doing.

http://intothemists....6K;1jwmAjwmA9RF

Some not-so-obvious notes about the build:

All armor I run is Vit/Tough focused with splashes of condition/precision.

Devourers are tough pets, fire at range so they generally stay out of the fight and have a built in escape mechanism. Their special abilities are meh but mostly I use my pet as buffer and a distraction. Another interesting choice is to put a pet on peace mode and pick two that have useful abilities.

Rampage elite is awesome and a good overall choice but I have switched to entangle. Entangle is a tide changer in group fights, stops shatter mesmers/thieves cold, great for escaping, works very well with condition bonuses and so many players simply die because they don't know how to escape the roots. It also ignores the Z axis so it will hit people on walls/behind doors.

Warhorn has two incredible abilities. The first is a great GROUP combat/speed buff and the second are birds which drop a ton of attacks which conversely stack a lot of bleeds when done right. Torch is good but not nearly as useful in a group situation.

Ditching healing spring. Healing springs is the best group heal in the game IMO and king in PvE. It should be slotted in some PvP scenarios but mostly I run the stock heal because it fires more often, spike heals for more and doesn't root the ranger to a specific area. PvP is very chaotic and I find most of the time moving is what keeps a ranger alive so I would rather have a big heal that fires more often. It is with a heavy heart I skip the better group choice though.

Sigils I use % to crit hit on the bow because crits are more damage and more chances to condi. Use endurance on axe because it is a great escape sigil allowing the ranger to hit swiftness from the horn and get an extra dodge in. Bleed chance on crit with the horn because it works so well with the bird attack.

I also fire zephyr after each heal whether it is ready or needed.

Edited by Straegen, 03 January 2013 - 09:54 PM.

[dynia666]

what hard to play ranger ? take bow spam 1 lanuch quickness that all ...

I learned how to play ranger after 2 pvp fights lol

[JACK the Somnolent]

dynia666, on 04 January 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

what hard to play ranger ? take bow spam 1 lanuch quickness that all ...

I learned how to play ranger after 2 pvp fights lol

YOU'RE SO GOOD, DUDE!

[dynia666]

JACK the Somnolent, on 04 January 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

YOU'RE SO GOOD, DUDE!

tell me what hard is play ranger ? take shortbow and mainly spam 1 and haste

[JACK the Somnolent]

dynia666, on 05 January 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

tell me what hard is play ranger ? take shortbow and mainly spam 1 and haste

I never said it was hard to play a ranger but I don't think it's as simple as you have beautifully illustrated it to be. It's just has "hard" to play as other classes (if not more frustrating given the state of pets and projectile bugs i.e. arrows being obscured for no reason.)

What makes you think it is so easy to play a ranger compared to other classes? If you seriously only use QZ and spam #1 then you're doing it wrong.

[dynia666]

JACK the Somnolent, on 06 January 2013 - 04:51 AM, said:

I never said it was hard to play a ranger but I don't think it's as simple as you have beautifully illustrated it to be. It's just has "hard" to play as other classes (if not more frustrating given the state of pets and projectile bugs i.e. arrows being obscured for no reason.)

What makes you think it is so easy to play a ranger compared to other classes? If you seriously only use QZ and spam #1 then you're doing it wrong.

wrong enough to kill high rang thiefs ? and later they call me op, oh yeah ... and that only in 3 games with ranger in my carrier -.-

[JACK the Somnolent]

dynia666, on 06 January 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

wrong enough to kill high rang thiefs ? and later they call me op, oh yeah ... and that only in 3 games with ranger in my carrier -.-

Well they sound pretty bad to be honest. If you are truly only using QZ and spamming one and they are getting pwned and calling you op then they sound pretty bad. Pretty damn bad even.

[dynia666]

JACK the Somnolent, on 08 January 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

Well they sound pretty bad to be honest. If you are truly only using QZ and spamming one and they are getting pwned and calling you op then they sound pretty bad. Pretty damn bad even.

that what ranger do there is none other good build for ranger

shortbow + rapid amulet + 30 in surival and crits earth rune and that all haste + spam 1 change pet haste agasin + spam 1 bleeds, ranger is easiest class to play in gw2

[JACK the Somnolent]

dynia666, on 08 January 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

that what ranger do there is none other good build for ranger

shortbow + rapid amulet + 30 in surival and crits earth rune and that all haste + spam 1 change pet haste agasin + spam 1 bleeds, ranger is easiest class to play in gw2

Yeah I would disagree with that. I have played every class (with the exception of mesmer) and while each class has different mechanics, I haven't found any class to be "easier" than the others.

You're starting to sound kind of like a troll at this point, so I'll just move along and let you QQ!

[mundo]

Here are my guides with WvW focus on the explanations.

https://docs.google....TTV4X0pxYi1NNU0
https://docs.google....a1d6eFVsc2t5bEk

[dynia666]

JACK the Somnolent, on 10 January 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

Yeah I would disagree with that. I have played every class (with the exception of mesmer) and while each class has different mechanics, I haven't found any class to be "easier" than the others.

You're starting to sound kind of like a troll at this point, so I'll just move along and let you QQ!

are you idiot ? you proof of this of this poost ? where I qq moron lol ... your iq is low didn't it ?

take any other ranger build and play me vs this you will lost no matter what other build you take with ranger 1st of all, where do you see something hard to spam 1 of ranger lol rly skillfull class

magically I knew how to play good and kill good players with ranger after 2 matchs in spvp o rly ... hard to learn how to play this class lol ...

it take more time to learn other classes to play , so wait if take so litte time to learn to play this class how it hard like other one like ele or mesmer ? dafaq you talking about dude

[avoidconfusion]

Why do people even bother responding to this illiterate?