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#721 CalmLittleBuddy

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:03 PM

View PostMrZero, on 25 January 2013 - 10:49 PM, said:

Seriously?

Even if JQ caps the entire map in the next 2 seconds, how is that going to affect the score?

You are a trashy man, zero head! (This is not trolling because he asked me to... sort of).

I'm going to pretend the guy crying about JQ capping with BG's help isn't a real SoS player. I mean, if he is, then he's taking the QQ from our JQQ and RUINING THE GAME!

Looking forward to seeing all sexy forces after reset. Love ya dolls.

#722 Jedbacca

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:18 PM

Score update?

^ that's so I don't get deleted, it's value added content toward the thread.

Calm, I held back so bad just now from posting a picture of a ton of blowup dolls...  I have issues...I know..

#723 MikeSr

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:25 PM

Who will win in coming weeks only time will tell. But one this is for sure, Sea of Sorrows whining about JQ being stacked has put Charlie prince's whining about BG being super stacked to shame.
SoS 232,844 +280
JQ 223,086 +280
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Edited by MikeSr, 25 January 2013 - 11:26 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:29 PM

Far be it from me to wish that BG drops to T2, but I would be interested to see a big three way fight in T1 the likes of which we haven't seen for a loooooooong time. That still doesn't reduce the fact that BG has been showing up with less numbers and fighting their hardest, just like SBI would do day in, day out. It really feels like you guys are their spiritual successor for the moment in my sentimental mind at least!

Well played beating the monstrosity that is "Stacked Quarry" ;). Really though, well played SoS, and seeing guilds like TSym and Agg manage to stand up to PRX and RG only increases my respect for you guys by miles at a time.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:32 PM

dont worry jq if i dont have fun this weekend on kain you will be getting everybodys favorite asura necro from sos on tuesday. the zerglings from sos wont stand a chance against our combined might.

Edited by esynnerr, 25 January 2013 - 11:35 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:39 PM

View PostAngelSpark, on 25 January 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

Far be it from me to wish that BG drops to T2, but I would be interested to see a big three way fight in T1 the likes of which we haven't seen for a loooooooong time. That still doesn't reduce the fact that BG has been showing up with less numbers and fighting their hardest, just like SBI would do day in, day out. It really feels like you guys are their spiritual successor for the moment in my sentimental mind at least!

Well played beating the monstrosity that is "Stacked Quarry" ;). Really though, well played SoS, and seeing guilds like TSym and Agg manage to stand up to PRX and RG only increases my respect for you guys by miles at a time.

I hate to break it to you, but I'm pretty confident that you will experience the same thing with any server that replaces BG. All respect to SoR, but if I were to guess, I'd say their coverage roughly matches BG now, and they will likely run into the same difficulties as BG in T1. Big, three way T1 battles where the score at the end of the week is close just ain't gonna happen for awhile (in my opinion).

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 12:06 AM

View PostGlobal_GW2, on 25 January 2013 - 11:39 PM, said:

I hate to break it to you, but I'm pretty confident that you will experience the same thing with any server that replaces BG. All respect to SoR, but if I were to guess, I'd say their coverage roughly matches BG now, and they will likely run into the same difficulties as BG in T1. Big, three way T1 battles where the score at the end of the week is close just ain't gonna happen for awhile (in my opinion).

I agree.

I have full respect for SoR, but even with what ever reinforcements they have had they will not be a lot stronger then we are in tier 1. They might even have gotten stronger then us, but that will not be enough for them to provided an equal fight.

They know how to fight and they have skill, but they where no bigger then us before,

#728 Sirandar

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 12:44 AM

Just my opinion but I don't think BG has lost the right to be in Tier 1.  I don't think anyone in Tier 2 is more deserving but time will tell in the next couple weeks.  BG seems like they are a few organized guilds away from really pushing both JQ and SoS.  Of course, with that being said, both JQ and SoS are a few guilds away from being in BG's shoes so ....

*shrug*

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:31 AM

Reading all of this just makes me wish I was home from work already... give 'em hell, guys! :D

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:35 AM

View PostMikeSr, on 25 January 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

Who will win in coming weeks only time will tell. But one this is for sure, Sea of Sorrows whining about JQ being stacked has put Charlie prince's whining about BG being super stacked to shame.
SoS 232,844 +280
JQ 223,086 +280
BG 170,035 +135
It seems JQ has better coverage during most NA hours. And I know many guilds from SBI transferred to JQ (SF and DA are two of the bigger ones that I know of). SBI is pretty much a ghost town now. Still wasn't enough to beat SoS though, and with free transfers closing soon there might never be another opportunity for a server to beat SoS.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:46 AM

Pathetic PRX performance at JQ!
SOS always outnumbered and mostly containing militias on maps had won supposedly "the best"! LOL

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 02:07 AM

Previously sos fight with jq + sbi
Now its (jq+sbi) + bg due to alot xfer especially NA to jq lol
wont be surprise if jq winning for up coming match tho
Keep the fight coming ! :lol:

#733 Cirus

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 02:40 AM

View PostMrZero, on 25 January 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

I'm just glad the "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING!!!" posts have ended. Look out for that incredible, unstoppable, JQ server next week.



AYYYYYYYYY!

It's the long term that still scares me actually. For the health of top tier WvW, it would be healthy if we had 3 or 4 top servers. 3 way WvWvW is so much more fun than a 1v1 WvW, the results and possibilities of the battles change infinitetly when you add a 3rd contender to the mix.

However due to Jade Quarry receiving over 20 WvW guilds for every time zone, meanwhile SoS also getting some additions to keep up, we've left everyone else behind. For the sake of competition I don't believe this is a healthy move, it's why I've been advocating transfers to Blackgate and Sanctum of Rall consistently during this period. 3 way fights is what's best for the game, and best for our enjoyment of it.

The gap between Blackgate and the top has increased in the past 7 days, and I think it's a real shame and I wish people when choosing their new home server to think about their choices carefully. It might seem like a good idea in the short term to stack Jade Quarry just so you can get the instant win, but for the long term you'll be screwing everyone over, including yourself. So far in WvW history  it hasn't been a major issue because the transfers generally balanced themselves out, however with free transfers ending this won't be happening anymore and what we have now is what we're stuck with.

Anyway, this discussion seems pointless now, it's too late really. It would have been nice if people thought about this instead of just denying it and defending their own selfishness.

Edited by Cirus, 26 January 2013 - 02:57 AM.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 02:47 AM

View PostGlobal_GW2, on 25 January 2013 - 10:43 PM, said:

The magnitude of facepalm I want to do right now is off the charts.

This d3monz guy is a troll, not only does he say the most stupid things but he's also wearing a tag of a guild to try and tarnish their reputation, and he can't even spell their tag correctly.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 02:51 AM

Unfortunately Cirus, the desire to hop onto a bandwagon is like the pull from the ring of Sauron...

People will get bored far quicker in a two horse race and that is unfortunate...

#736 Raif89

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 02:52 AM

So while in JQ BL with FoE, RG hit me so hard I got the sound bug and the game crashed a second later.

GG.

*Edit - and no, this is not a qq post, just noticing how hilarious that is.

Edited by Raif89, 26 January 2013 - 02:53 AM.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:58 AM

View PostCirus, on 26 January 2013 - 02:40 AM, said:

It's the long term that still scares me actually. For the health of top tier WvW, it would be healthy if we had 3 or 4 top servers. 3 way WvWvW is so much more fun than a 1v1 WvW, the results and possibilities of the battles change infinitetly when you add a 3rd contender to the mix.

However due to Jade Quarry receiving over 20 WvW guilds for every time zone, meanwhile SoS also getting some additions to keep up, we've left everyone else behind. For the sake of competition I don't believe this is a healthy move, it's why I've been advocating transfers to Blackgate and Sanctum of Rall consistently during this period. 3 way fights is what's best for the game, and best for our enjoyment of it.

The gap between Blackgate and the top has increased in the past 7 days, and I think it's a real shame and I wish people when choosing their new home server to think about their choices carefully. It might seem like a good idea in the short term to stack Jade Quarry just so you can get the instant win, but for the long term you'll be screwing everyone over, including yourself. So far in WvW history  it hasn't been a major issue because the transfers generally balanced themselves out, however with free transfers ending this won't be happening anymore and what we have now is what we're stuck with.

Anyway, this discussion seems pointless now, it's too late really. It would have been nice if people thought about this instead of just denying it and defending their own selfishness.

It was all pointless alarmism to start with. The people on the con side of it are crying out, "OMG!!! JQ is now stacked and is teh pwn!!!" The scores are showing that JQ has become more the equal to SoS than it was. I log out at night and we are 2k behind. I log in the next day and we are behind by 10k. Some of you people are freaking out like JQ is some unstoppable juggernaut and the fact is, you are wrong.

There is never going to be 4 "healthy" servers. 2 out of the 4 servers that were in the top 4 from 6 weeks ago have died. All the crying about JQ is coming across more like people crying about not being able to zerg the hell out of the other two servers than it sounds like concern for the game.

Maybe if people spent more time trying to get players on their server and less time being arrogant *s, people would choose their server to transfer.

SF decided to leave SBI mainly because wvw wasn't fun for us there anymore. We got sick of map hopping every 30-45 minutes. Any time there was a keep under attack, we got a call from someone. This made it apparent that the wvw community was dead. We outright shot down the idea of SoS because it was clear the last time we fought them, they had enough people to hold against SBI and JQ. We went to SoR and they tried telling us how many people were "allowed" to come to their server. We had reasons that were personl for not going to Kaineng or Blackgate. (I'm not elaborating on these two because that is a whole different drama.) JQ however, they went out of their way to welcome and support us.

In other words, let it go. You are wrong and you will see. Crybaby gamers that wanted this to be an entirely different game are what has ruined shit more than anything. I mean seriously, quitting over ascended gear? Look the hell out, that shit screwed up wvw big time didn't it. Then again, maybe I just had too many beers after dinner.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 04:26 AM

View PostMrZero, on 26 January 2013 - 03:58 AM, said:

Maybe if people spent more time trying to get players on their server and less time being arrogant *s, people would choose their server to transfer.

Ding, ding, ding, winner!

#739 ketorin23

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 04:31 AM

been an interesting night so far

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:06 AM

Blackgate Borderlands just went down for us. Can't get back in. I neeeeeeed to be in the comfort of Lowlands again! Was a bunch of fun babysitting it to get supply.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:54 AM

there were a few JQ players who took advantage of underground terrain glitch. I have got them recorded but dont want any drama so I havent posted the vdo here. Please let me know how to contact JQ council members. Thks.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:29 AM

There was hacking occuring on all servers this evening. I too have witnessed disappointing play.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:53 AM

got contacted by a JQ player now. Lets hope this exploit is no more.

sry double post.

Edited by Milkhead, 26 January 2013 - 08:05 AM.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:01 AM

I've been knocked under Bay terrain before by a catapult behind the door, it really sucks. Phantom retreat is also a pain in the rear when it comes to this. I've been knocked under the map in PvE countless times because of this. Don't be quick to call a hack or exploit, if he is stuck in combat (because you keep trying to KILL HIM) he can't port out.

To the video: he is jumping around, trying to get out and is a guardian... When did guardians get portals?

EDIT: watched the yak slapper, that stuff sucks.. I wonder if ANet will get rid of the "water level" beneath the ground to stop this.

Edited by LilMcGinley, 26 January 2013 - 08:08 AM.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:04 AM

View PostMilkhead, on 26 January 2013 - 06:54 AM, said:

there were a few JQ players who took advantage of underground terrain glitch. I have got them recorded but dont want any drama so I havent posted the vdo here. Please let me know how to contact JQ council members. Thks.

got contacted by a JQ player now. Lets hope this exploit is no more.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:04 AM

View PostMilkhead, on 26 January 2013 - 08:04 AM, said:

got contacted by a JQ player now. Lets hope this exploit is no more.
Might want to edit your post then. This thread has lasted 25 pages so far, no reason to derail now.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:35 AM

good fight to all sides, BG is out strong, although i must say more JQ players using golem in the box is disheartening. aside from that keep up the fights

#748 Maelwaedd

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:53 AM

Just a heads up for all servers

Do not change map or WP, the login servers are currently down

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:43 AM

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 12:00 PM

View PostNeo Juggernaut, on 26 January 2013 - 08:35 AM, said:

good fight to all sides, BG is out strong, although i must say more JQ players using golem in the box is disheartening. aside from that keep up the fights

All three servers are using it, I agree its lame and I won't use it  but please don't single out JQ for this.




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