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#931 wondowondo

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:08 AM

first can I just say this culling fix seems to be a lot better! First night out test drive I could see enemies way faster.

Second, i dunno what is happening on these forums but SF is having a blast in wvw again. I wish SF could fight Agg more we have sort of a rivalry and our team gets pumped when Agg is on the map. I would say they are the funnest guild to have as opponents. something is always a surprise and they love to fight open field which SF also loves.

anyways I hope everything is all good on SoS, your server has the funnest guilds to clash with because they use new strategies ALL the time, every week SoS has something planned that I haven't seen before or a new spin on it. and even if other people don't admit it, I think SOS brought some new tactics into a stale T1 when you first arrived. Especially on offensive siege placement and some other stuff I am forgetting because it's 4am.

but anyways back to the regular scheduled program of cross server bashing. let's fight our fights in the field yea?

#932 Jedbacca

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS....sorry I got nothin'  I'm loving the culling fixes implemented today.  It was nice to work with PrX this evening as well, I like playing side opposite of another team that is capable of handling themselves, it leaves me to do whatever the hell it is that I do when I do it.

Cheers all :)

#933 J E R I C O

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:14 AM

View PostJedbacca, on 29 January 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS....sorry I got nothin'  I'm loving the culling fixes implemented today.  It was nice to work with PrX this evening as well, I like playing side opposite of another team that is capable of handling themselves, it leaves me to do whatever the hell it is that I do when I do it.

Cheers all :)
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agg hasnt been in force the past 2 days because 70% of our guild kinda wants a break from wvw'ing 10 + hrs daily.
so you will see us soon (i hope if this new rating doesnt * up somehow)
Im just eating donuts, entertaining myself atm.

#934 FriendlyFire

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:23 AM

The ratings are kind of jacked.  SoS needs a rally, if they lose 60 rating they will be Tier 2 on reset.  With the rating reset it won't be too bad, SoS and JQ will have to wait about 2 weeks before settling back to Tier 1.

Edited by FriendlyFire, 29 January 2013 - 09:26 AM.


#935 wondowondo

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:32 AM

View PostJ E R I C O, on 29 January 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

SUP!
agg hasnt been in force the past 2 days because 70% of our guild kinda wants a break from wvw'ing 10 + hrs daily.
so you will see us soon (i hope if this new rating doesnt * up somehow)
Im just eating donuts, entertaining myself atm.

i hear that. That was SF 2 weeks ago. Even now on JQ we're not putting in the crazy hours we were on SBI. It's much more fun to play when you aren't stressing overtime.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:33 AM

View PostFriendlyFire, on 29 January 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

The ratings are kind of jacked.  SoS needs a rally, if they lose 60 rating they will be Tier 2 on reset.  With the rating reset it won't be too bad, SoS and JQ will have to wait about 2 weeks before settling back to Tier 1.

It will be completely crazy from next week with servers moving up and down all over the place (probably moving multiple tiers). I don't mind at all - get to play against other servers, see different faces.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:07 AM

Wow, this place went down hill fast huh?  Thanks for giving us some training out there in JQBL today, looks like were going to get a crack at some major outnumbered practice this week with the way things are going, keep the hits coming!  Gotta work out the kinks on these new tactics.

See you all in game!

#938 J E R I C O

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

score update: 5:15 AM pacific

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#939 CalmLittleBuddy

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:45 PM

Heya, with Glicko resetting, it reads to me that AFTER week 1 of the New Era, if you don't win your matchup or even come in third, OR get blown out, your Glicko will be lower than servers who WIN their matchup. So, let's say JQ comes in second the week of reset. Sure, it's second place in T1, but it's still not as good as a win... so we drop to like T4? Wow. This might be the greatest thing ever!

#940 Vihar

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:45 PM

I don't know what the "new formulae" is going to be.....

  But the closer it is to "winner moves up, loser moves down" for the next matchup, the happier I'll be.

  I think that two major factors in the health of WvW is balanced competition and "new" matches...meaning that we don't all have to face the same 2 opponents for a month, and then we get one new opponent for a month, and so on.

   More movement in rankings is better than less movement in rankings.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:57 PM

View PostCalmLittleBuddy, on 29 January 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Heya, with Glicko resetting, it reads to me that AFTER week 1 of the New Era, if you don't win your matchup or even come in third, OR get blown out, your Glicko will be lower than servers who WIN their matchup. So, let's say JQ comes in second the week of reset. Sure, it's second place in T1, but it's still not as good as a win... so we drop to like T4? Wow. This might be the greatest thing ever!

Yep, is definitely going to be weird.
If you used the scores as they are right now on mos, Top 3 in ratings would be Kaineng, SOR and EB

#942 CalmLittleBuddy

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:00 PM

View PostVihar, on 29 January 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

I don't know what the "new formulae" is going to be.....

  But the closer it is to "winner moves up, loser moves down" for the next matchup, the happier I'll be.

  I think that two major factors in the health of WvW is balanced competition and "new" matches...meaning that we don't all have to face the same 2 opponents for a month, and then we get one new opponent for a month, and so on.

   More movement in rankings is better than less movement in rankings.

I have to agree with this. Winner needs to move up. 3rd needs to move down. Unfortunately, anything more than this will cause horribly unbalanced match ups. BUT, I would love to see Anet reset the ratings every year like this. OR, from time to time, have a 'challenge' week where lower tier servers face higher tier servers with a point scale adjustment or handicapping system (like give them permanent breakouts and NPCs and higher points per objective), or just throw out the score altogether for these challenge matchups. make it 'okay' for servers to relax and do GvG and training and test fights. Just for a week.

#943 FriendlyFire

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:22 PM

We do need more coverage. :)

#944 Jedbacca

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:26 PM

Oh and for those of you who don't know how my guild and Agg interact, it probably is the biggest trollfest between our teams in PM's non-stop, so there's no drama here :P

#945 CalmLittleBuddy

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

Heck yeah, son!

TBH, I didn't notice any real difference with the new 'non culling' system. I still run straight through zergs and out the back. Now I catually SEE them ignoring me. I made like 20 badges last night, so I guess I don't need a rebuild (I won't say which servers I feasted on, but I was shocked. wasn't like I thought!)

Then again, I have gotten good at staying away from zerg territory.

#946 Amepelia

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

In retrospect, Agg hasn't been able to field 30 - 35 the past few weeks. :(  It usually 12 - 25 nowadays. It's always been fighting first, and score later for us. It's amazing how we can accomplished so much along with few to many non-guildies! On a side note, I heard majority of WM has been banned for botting including Mr. Gun himself. :o

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:50 PM

Did I mention I recorded last night?  You are not a 12-20 man team.

#948 Amepelia

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:56 PM

I knew I should have told people to get on TS. Guildies never seem to like VoIP. :qq:

#949 CalmLittleBuddy

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:58 PM

View PostAmepelia, on 29 January 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

In retrospect, Agg hasn't been able to field 30 - 35 the past few weeks. :(  It usually 12 - 25 nowadays. It's always been fighting first, and score later for us. It's amazing how we can accomplished so much along with few to many non-guildies! On a side note, I heard majority of WM has been banned for botting including Mr. Gun himself. :o

WHOA! Where'd you hear that?

But yeah, I have noticed more and more mixed tag groups from SoS. Not just a few stragglers, but like 5 Agg and 15 misc. You know, like that. Where as before you'd see full tribes of single guild running around. VotF still does this. Saw Tsym still doing this, but Merc, Work and Agg seem to have intergrated some smaller groups and solos into their midst. That's a GOOD thing. That, to me, shows serious improvement. When you can take a group of rag tag one man guilds and make some hay, that's WvW at its best and most fun.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:59 PM

View PostJedbacca, on 29 January 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

Did I mention I recorded last night?  You are not a 12-20 man team.

  Jed....

   To convert Agg math all you have to do multiply by 3.14159

  So...let's say "12-20" means "16"

   16 * Pi = 50

  So, "12-20" means "about 50".

   Happy to assist.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:06 PM

Happy to see Rage still roam with 4 - 8 clearing supply camps. My sole ele can't handle all the times you rolled over my dead body the past weekend. I still would rather fight than to let my camp fall. 1v5? LEGGO :angry: Nonetheless it was fun. :P

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:14 PM

Sadly, I did not get much time in WvW yesterday. :(

  First, I got pissed at the reset after I dropped a whole bunch of siege in various keeps and towers.

   Then, some of us went to work on finishing the monthly just in case it gave Laurels.

  We had to have one guy show us where the jumping puzzles are. We don't do that stuff, and don't know where it is.

  Then we had to make a few tortuous PVE runs in Fractals.

   All in all, it was a night of crappy, boring, suck PVE for most of us, just to get the achievements before it's too late.

   Props for not being a runner, though.

   Die with glory and honor!

   My kind of PVPer.

   You, sir, are a member of a very select club.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:35 PM

View PostCalmLittleBuddy, on 29 January 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

WHOA! Where'd you hear that?

But yeah, I have noticed more and more mixed tag groups from SoS. Not just a few stragglers, but like 5 Agg and 15 misc. You know, like that. Where as before you'd see full tribes of single guild running around. VotF still does this. Saw Tsym still doing this, but Merc, Work and Agg seem to have intergrated some smaller groups and solos into their midst. That's a GOOD thing. That, to me, shows serious improvement. When you can take a group of rag tag one man guilds and make some hay, that's WvW at its best and most fun.

It's just a rumor. I personally can't wait to fight Kaineng if we are paired up with them post rating reset and see if it's true..

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:54 PM

Great fights all!

It's good to see that everyone is conferring within this thread without whines!

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:59 PM

"but I thought we were the only ones who stacked a server"  random sos invader

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 05:05 PM

Defeat is not the worst of failures. Not to have tried is the true failure.

Keep it up reformed JQ and we may meet again some day in the same tier aka last post from me.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 05:28 PM

View Postcrowea, on 29 January 2013 - 12:59 AM, said:

After reading last few pages I reckon JQQ will implode before Easter - too much ego there.

I reckon if big changes don't come to GW2 like Arenanet promised, that a lot of people will quit before East.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 05:32 PM

The word I got on WM was that some were banned for botting as a result of mass reporting of the commanders from opposing servers.

  Jang Gun doesn't even PVE, let alone bot.

  It is just a lot of people abusing a very flawed system.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 05:39 PM

View PostVihar, on 29 January 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

I don't know what the "new formulae" is going to be.....

  But the closer it is to "winner moves up, loser moves down" for the next matchup, the happier I'll be.

  I think that two major factors in the health of WvW is balanced competition and "new" matches...meaning that we don't all have to face the same 2 opponents for a month, and then we get one new opponent for a month, and so on.

   More movement in rankings is better than less movement in rankings.

I agree with this fully.

I wrote something similar along these lines on the official forums, however it was much more of a long winded  post on page 4.

https://forum-en.gui...ng-Reset/page/4

I suggest people to log in and click the +1 button on the posts that you agree with, it might just give Arenanet the right idea as it's one of the developers that started the thread.

Edited by Cirus, 29 January 2013 - 06:00 PM.


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Posted 29 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

View PostVihar, on 29 January 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

The word I got on WM was that some were banned for botting as a result of mass reporting of the commanders from opposing servers.

  Jang Gun doesn't even PVE, let alone bot.

  It is just a lot of people abusing a very flawed system.

I heard it was a lot of WM and from what I heard it was also rescinded very quickly because as you can imagine banning so many people for "botting" doesn't sit well when an entire server is sending messages to get them back.




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