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#1 Victros

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:04 AM

I'm just coming back to GW2.  Basically, I suck at dodging and kiting.  Is there a class for me?

Thanks!

#2 jthamind

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:10 AM

bunker guardian

#3 Hybarf Tics

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:20 AM

Buy a gamer mouse it'll facilitate your game a lot. :D

#4 Victros

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:31 AM

I understand "ranger with a bear."  But what's a "bunker guardian?"

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:48 AM

Trust me, you'll get better. ;)

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:08 AM

it just comes naturally as you play more and learn attacks.  just play what you want in a tankier build (try power/vitality/toughness gear) and it will come as you go.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:48 AM

Practice makes permanent OP

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:50 AM

View PostVictros, on 19 January 2013 - 05:31 AM, said:

I understand "ranger with a bear."  But what's a "bunker guardian?"

Bunker is just a term that people use to say "Puts every ounce of every available resource into defense".

Essentially running lots of toughness, healing power, and anything that can make you survive, with the premise that over time, other people die and do no damage when dead, and therefore you can do more damage than them by staying alive.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 12:57 PM

Warrior, Guardian, or practice a damn lot :P

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:13 PM

There are no professions that can get by in later content without dodging. You'll get better simply playing the game, dodging is a gimmick early on that's not required as enemies are either at level and easy to take down or above level and will kill you with basic attacks.

When you hit lvl35 go into ascalonian catacombs explorable for the best dodging practice in the game.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:45 PM

Thank all the gods and warm fuzzy kittens! I am not alone! By the same token you're not alone. :D

I agree with Ranger and a pet. While, ofc, not 100%, pets do help by doing some damage and often distracting foes. I find the arctodus a pretty good allround amphibious pet though one of my rangers swaps between eagle and snow owl and another between snow leopard and fern hound with drake, jellyfish or shark for aquatic. Sometimes I equip devourer/spider. Hmmm. That seems to cover almost half the available pets.

While I don't play the profession, apparently necromancers have pretty good survivability with death shroud and life steal, and they also have "pets" in the form of their minions.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:56 PM

Elementalist.
Stay in the back, behind your guardians/warriors and just pew-pew.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

you have to duck and dodge! thats the fun of this game!

Practice makes perfect!

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:24 PM

"If you can dodge a wrench, you can doge a ball!" - Patches O'Houlihan

Just try and get better at dodging, it just needs some practice. Also, don't build glass cannon, if you aren't the best at dodging. Go a little tanky, and you should be fine.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:49 PM

View PostKurosov, on 19 January 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

There are no professions that can get by in later content without dodging. You'll get better simply playing the game, dodging is a gimmick early on that's not required as enemies are either at level and easy to take down or above level and will kill you with basic attacks.

When you hit lvl35 go into ascalonian catacombs explorable for the best dodging practice in the game.
Pretty much this.

While levelling you can get away without kiting, especially as warrior or guardian. In dungeons however, it's a totally different story. It's almost impossible to do a lot of dungeons without dodging - without subsequently dying as a result very often. Some dungeon bosses and mobs just lay down carpets of red circles that do major damage; if you don't get out of them very fast you're down pretty quickly.

So I'd start practicing a bit ;)

#16 Victros

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 08:49 PM

Can I use the default dodge button that rolls you backwards?  I can't seem to get double-tapping the direction key to work...

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:02 PM

You are able to dodge in any direction with the dodge key. If you are stationary, dodge will send you rolling backwards. You are able to combine the movement keys(forward, back, strafe/turn left & right) with dodge to send you in different directions.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:14 PM

you can also click the endurance bar to dodge in whatever direction your moving, or reverse if you're standing still. that probably isn't a good idea, though, since it's kinda small and you can miss it in the heat of battle.

Edited by jthamind, 19 January 2013 - 09:15 PM.


#19 Kurosov

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:22 PM

View PostVictros, on 19 January 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

Can I use the default dodge button that rolls you backwards?  I can't seem to get double-tapping the direction key to work...

A dodge button is much better than use double tapping. It's much faster, cant be done accidentally and allows you to dodge in any direction.

View Postjthamind, on 19 January 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

you can also click the endurance bar to dodge in whatever direction your moving, or reverse if you're standing still. that probably isn't a good idea, though, since it's kinda small and you can miss it in the heat of battle.

I always though it would be nice if this was extended o the entire health bar.

Edited by Kurosov, 19 January 2013 - 09:22 PM.


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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:36 PM

Yep defo use a dodge key and not double tapping. A good keybinding layout helps loads with this as well. If you have some money to spare consider a Logitech G13 or similar device as that really helps extend your range of options - being able to move/strafe with thumb and mouse and still have the rest of your hand available for other control options (like dodging) and skill usage is quite liberating. Ofc don't buy something like that just for this game, however if you play more games on the pc it's worth it imho (and not just for mmorpgs).

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:42 AM

Warrior has the highest HP and the toughest defense so you don't need to dodge as much. If you play thief then you need to dodge a lot because thieves have the lowest HP and has medium defense and has the shortest ranged weapon

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:28 AM

honest to god better way to get better at dodging, go to AC fight Kholer and watch his glowing animation when he lifts his sword, time it right(take some practice) and dodge back for the evade, ever since i did a lot of AC runs, i been called one of the best dodgers in this game, of course i use my clones/illusions as a great distraction alot and i run no toughness, so i make sure im always on my toes

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:48 AM

I feel the general consensus of this thread is that with practice you will get better, even so class suggestions have been made none the less. As there is no need for that to be said again this thread will be locked.

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