Rare or Exotic to make Dawn?
Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:31 PM
In addition, does using dungeon greatswords traded by tokens work in the Mystic Forge to get Dawn?
Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:50 PM
Be prepared to gamble in the mystic toilet
Theoretically dungeon weapons are same as any other rare or exotic weapon. I don't know anyone who has bothered using dungeon ones tho simply because you have to run the dungeons around 22 times just to get one try at the Mystic Forge....
I also don't recommend using Mystic Forge crystals as they seem to substitute itself as only the tier of a weapon and not the type. Throwing in 4 greatswords will give you a greatsword back, but 3 greatswords + 1 Mystic crystal might not give you a greatsword back.
Edited by Stigma, 22 January 2013 - 09:53 PM.
Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:54 PM
rares can be used, but as posted above and from my personal experience (over 1100 GSs now and 600 hammers) I have still yet to see a precursor. I rarely if ever even get named exotics, usually the only exotics I get back are just the crafted pearl ones. Exotics can be used but are much more expensive if not using the dungeon ones, which take a while to get anyways if you aren't planning on spending money.
currently the safe bet is to put up buy orders for rare GSs and wait for them to fill, then flush them away. I never do more than 5 forges at a time (usually ends up being around 7-8g per time I gamble) as from that I can easily recoup the losses with an AC run and selling any exotics I get out of the toilet.
Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:22 PM
If I plan to buy the GS's on the Trading Post, at what price should I buy them for on average?
Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:41 PM
But if you like running dungeons, and have nothing else to use the tokens on.......ok, ectos.....
If you confine yourself to one dungeon. Farming from four different ones will obviously get you there faster.
It would be nice to have an idea how much BETTER the odds are by using exotics over rares. To know if it is worth the effort.
Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:54 AM
Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:11 AM
With 4 rares you can get either a rare or an exotic, while with 4 exotics you always get an exotic. Only exotics can be precursors. If the chance for an exotic from rares is X, then you need 1/X times more tries for a precursor on average.
The rare that you get in 1-X of rare tries can be used for another try. Buying 4 rares will give you 1 + (1-X) * 0.25 tries. Therefore if prize of rare * (1 + (1-X) * 0.25 )* 1/X < prize of exotic then using rares is the cheaper way.
Now all you need is the correct chance and the prizes!
An example: if chance is 20% = 0.2 then (1 + (1-0.2) * 0.25) * 1/0.2 = 1.2 * 5 = 6
--> if prize of exotic < 6 * prize of rare then go with exotics
Edited by Limbolein, 23 January 2013 - 11:24 AM.
Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:50 PM
Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:30 PM
Putting 4 rares into the forge will start 2 rolls: the 1st for quality, then the second that pick the output item from a list of items of the quality rolled on the first roll.
Putting 4 exotics will instead only start the second roll.
4 rares -> var1:exotic. var2: e001
4rares -> var1:rare. var2: r001
4 exotics -> var1:exotic (default). var2: e001
It would make sense if this "item code" would identify the same item as long as the quality is the same.
Sorry for any grammar mystake,i'm hiding at work (true thief here) and english is not my mother tongue
Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:14 AM
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:27 PM
Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:46 PM
Edited by rotsono, 24 January 2013 - 07:46 PM.
Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:30 AM
I mean... if i throw in 2* lvl 40, 1* lvl 50, 1* lvl 60 rare weapons the result will be a lvl 80 item or... ??
Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:32 AM
Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:38 AM
Edited by Chibii, 25 January 2013 - 10:38 AM.
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