215 replies to this topic

[Ricko]

In referring to the mounts thread on the official forums, why do some people want mounts so badly? Don't get me wrong, I played WoW for 3 years and I loved my blue proto-drake but why do some people ask so much for mounts in the game?

[Verelia]

Probably because after a few months of playing, buying a mount will be cheaper and more productive than throwing all your hard earned copper at waypoints

[FoxBat]

How many white knights do you know that don't have a stallion to ride in on?

The mechanics are generally a mess, but horses were a staple of medieval life, as well as most fantasy literature.

[Rukioish]

I don't want mounts, who says I want mounts?

[Fenice_86]

<--- dont want/need mounts too

[Waar Kijk Je Naar]

I never really understood it either. Despite asking it multiple times, nobody has ever given me a good reason to add them to the game. The only replies you usually get is "it's fun", "other games also have mounts" and "I like collecting things".

[Xentin]

Why not? I always like add-ons like housing, mounts and so on. If it brings fun then it makes people stay in the game, isnt it right? I dont understand why some so badly dont want mount, its because of game lore or what? As most noticed probably, this game is far away from gw1, so why not implement few things like flying mounts etc . Also, we got nice maps in GW2, why not to "explore" them without WPs? It might be longer but who cares

Edited by Xentin, 23 January 2013 - 11:54 AM.

[Vexies]

The question should not be why do you want but why do you NOT want mounts?  Its ridiculous to try to argue that the game is somehow better without them.  There is NO world pvp at all so why NOT have mounts? is it somehow going to cheapen the experience of all those lovely loading screens from porting place to place using way points?

Come on now try again and really try to not be ridiculous about it.  If PVP is your only gripe against them there is a simple solution to that you know.. you just cant use em in WVW or SPVP.  Beyond that its simply providing people more ways to enjoy the game, get around, look flashy (the supposed point of end game right?) and introduce yet another gold sink for the economy.

[Perm Shadow Form]

Because spending 50s+ on Waypoints is stupid. (Yesterday doing Jumping Puzzles for January Achievement)

[Gli]

Vexies, on 23 January 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

The question should not be why do you want but why do you NOT want mounts?

That's nonsense. No one ever needs a reason to not want something.

[Swoopeh]

Pros:
- Content to strive for in game.
- Looking flashy/unique/bragging rights.
- Move through zones faster and not having to use (relatively expensive) WPs for shorter distances.

Cons:
- Will make the zones seem much smaller (you'd be able to cross a zone in no time).
- The portaling between zones stands out more - you want to go from Straights to Cursed Shore on a mount? Need to take 2 portals to and from Malchors.
- Characters often look crappy on mounts because they don't have an animation that syncs with the mount bobbing/running/walking animations and it takes a lot of time to implement those, especially if each mount has different animations (look at how characters are completely static on WoW mounts).

I'm not for or against it but if they do implement it I hope it's done properly.

Edited by Swoopeh, 25 January 2013 - 08:38 AM.

[Menehune]

Yet again a topic chewed more thoroughly than dolyak cud.

Verelia, on 23 January 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

Probably because after a few months of playing, buying a mount will be cheaper and more productive than throwing all your hard earned copper at waypoints

Cheaper, but still not any faster, and other arguments/reasons anti-mount ad infinitum et ad nauseum.

[Darkobra]

I want to ride a sheep.

Oh, you were talking about in the game? ... Yeah. Me too.

[Sheepski]

Xentin, on 23 January 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

Why not? I always like add-ons like housing, mounts and so on. If it brings fun then it makes people stay in the game, isnt it right? I dont understand why some so badly dont want mount, its because of game lore or what? As most noticed probably, this game is far away from gw1, so why not implement few things like flying mounts etc . Also, we got nice maps in GW2, why not to "explore" them without WPs? It might be longer but who cares

Flying mounts are where I draw the line.

Mounts in general aren't so bad as with WP's they wouldn't be needed for anything (as long as you cannot use them in dungeons etc) as obviously instant travel is faster However they'd need to consider how combat works, it shouldn't really be such that with a mount you can just run through everything to a PoI/Vista/Node etc easier than you could with the normal skills/mount-less.

I would like the collection idea, like minis, and cosmetic: therefore keep the speed the same as swiftness boon.

However flying mounts will make it too easy to get around trivialising all terrain and content within the zones.

Darkobra, on 23 January 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

I want to ride a sheep.

Oh, you were talking about in the game? ... Yeah. Me too.

Oi, none of that thanks!  That's the Welshman's privilege.

Edited by Sheepski, 23 January 2013 - 12:20 PM.

[Graywolf4409]

My fiancé doesn't really care about collecting armor, and she doesn't really like the method of mini pet gain (grind gold for gems) and she felt like there was a lack of content, where as in WoW, she has been playing adamantly for years, not raiding, not PvPing, but going through and getting every single mount she can get her hands on.

It is a massive form of content for some, i swear, if you put a ridable dolyak as a reward for keg brawl, i would have actually played it by now.

But matter of fact is mounts are kind of staple for fantasy in a lot of ways, and some people love collecting them the game can lack a certain charm when they are missing.

I personally just love fighting stuff, But when one game offers an awesome activity you can do with your pets (pet battles) and over 400 of them to collect, as well as 150+ mounts, compared to this which has better combat. I can easily see why she likes to play WoW in her spare time rather than play GW2.

[Xentin]

Sheepski, on 23 January 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

Flying mounts are where I draw the line.

Mounts in general aren't so bad as with WP's they wouldn't be needed for anything (as long as you cannot use them in dungeons etc) as obviously instant travel is faster However they'd need to consider how combat works, it shouldn't really be such that with a mount you can just run through everything to a PoI/Vista/Node etc easier than you could with the normal skills/mount-less.

I would like the collection idea, like minis, and cosmetic: therefore keep the speed the same as swiftness boon.

However flying mounts will make it too easy to get around trivialising all terrain and content within the zones.

Well yeah Flying Mounts would be too much, at all i didnt meant flying like that. Just like in Aion, it got really nicely made flying system with wings , you cant fly everywhere, only gliding in some places. I agree with you, mounts (neither wings/flying mounts) shouldnt help in things like Vistas, about pois and nodes i dont really care as they are already easily gainable even without mounts.

Edited by Xentin, 23 January 2013 - 12:23 PM.

[Sword Hammer Axe]

Not only do I want mounts. I want EPIC mounts! I want to tie a boar to each of my Charr's hind paws and use them to skate around Diessa Plateau, firing Charrzooka shots at everything that moves! I want my Norn to make an underwater chariot pulled by Icebrood Quaggan by using a long stick with a regular Quaggan tied to the end of it! I want my Asura to make a Golem that thinks it's a horse and therefore does all the things a horse would regularly do + flames shooting out of its butt as it charges forward!

[Rukioish]

Swoopeh, on 23 January 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

Pros:
- Content to strive for in game.
- Looking flashy/unique/bragging rights.
- Move through zones faster and not having to use (relatively expensive) WPs for shorter distances.

Cons:
- Will make the world seem much smaller (you'd be able to cross a zone in no time).
- The portaling between zones stands out more - you want to go from Straights to Cursed Shore on a mount? Need to take 2 portals to and from Malchors.
- Characters often look crappy on mounts because they don't have an animation that syncs with the mount bobbing/running/walking animations and it takes a lot of time to implement those, especially if each mount has different animations (look at how characters are completely static on WoW mounts).

I'm not for or against it but if they do implement it I hope it's done properly.

whoa man, off topic, I see you are a fan of Okami too.

[Fenice_86]

My reason for "not wanting" mounts is:

Developing them needs people, time, efforts from devs

Game has already enought stuff they need to do BEFORE this total superfluous things.

[Fallanx]

Mounts are pretty much standard in mmos. It could gives another layer of gameplay as you could fight while mounted. Some mounts can even have specific abilites so this is a cool feature (like Archeage)

However, considering that GW2 was not developped with this in mind, i'd rather not have new travelling system which would most likely be clunky. Devs currently have more important things to do i think.

[sevalaricgirl]

I want mounts too because 1)they are fun to collect, 2) they are fun to ride and 3) they don't take anything away from the mmo experience.  Mounts are a staple in MMOs but just like they haven't added guild housing, they won't add mounts.

[Ritualist]

As underwater exploration shows, aerial exploration could have been absolutely amazing. So from that perspective, I have no issues with mouths.
But, as mentioned above, the game is lacking in certain, core features - so I'd rather have A.Net focus on that first. The same way that I find it insane to focus on jumping puzzles or new dungeons when the basic combat is lacking, it would be insane to prioritize mounts over that also.

[Swoopeh]

Rukioish, on 23 January 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

whoa man, off topic, I see you are a fan of Okami too.

Yus! One of my fave games in the history of forever, plus the artwork is amazing and makes nice avatars
Still hoping for a proper sequel.

[Strawberry Nubcake]

My reason for not wanting mounts is because we don't need them.  Period.

What's next?  People wanting wings because their stupid horse keeps getting owned in places like Orr?  Some of you must be really bad if waypoint costs are killing you.  I can outrun a centaur and so can you!

Edited by Strawberry Nubcake, 23 January 2013 - 01:39 PM.

[Heart Collector]

Swoopeh, on 23 January 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

Pros:
- Content to strive for in game.
- Looking flashy/unique/bragging rights.
- Move through zones faster and not having to use (relatively expensive) WPs for shorter distances.

Cons:
- Will make the world seem much smaller (you'd be able to cross a zone in no time).
- The portaling between zones stands out more - you want to go from Straights to Cursed Shore on a mount? Need to take 2 portals to and from Malchors.
- Characters often look crappy on mounts because they don't have an animation that syncs with the mount bobbing/running/walking animations and it takes a lot of time to implement those, especially if each mount has different animations (look at how characters are completely static on WoW mounts).

I'm not for or against it but if they do implement it I hope it's done properly.

I agree with this. I'm happy with the game as it is in this respect and I'm fine with the fact that they will never be added (I think the devs have repeatedly stated this), but if done well I wouldn't mind them in the game. I'd be fine with them if a) they were not allowed in cities/settlements, b ) only gave a speed bonus on roads and had no jumping capability, c) are also used for minigames like jousting tourneys or something.

Edited by Heart Collector, 23 January 2013 - 01:43 PM.

[Arquenya]

You know, running around in platemail doesn't feel very realistic or immersive.

A nice mount to take me places will enhance my game experience.
And horses look pretty.

[Sheepski]

Strawberry Nubcake, on 23 January 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

My reason for not wanting mounts is because we don't need them.  Period.

What's next?  People wanting wings because their stupid horse keeps getting owned in places like Orr?  Some of you must be really bad if waypoint costs are killing you.  I can outrun a centaur and so can you!

Centaur mounts!

[Arquenya]

Swoopeh, on 23 January 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

Cons:
- Will make the world seem much smaller (you'd be able to cross a zone in no time).

If I'd use a mount instead of waypoints, it will actually feel bigger!

If one thing makes the world small, it's waypoints, not mounts. Try EVE, even with a 13.5 AU/s interceptor (<3 my Malediction) it still takes ages to get somewhere.

Edited by Arquenya, 23 January 2013 - 01:49 PM.

[matsif]

absolutely no need for a mount right now.  Considering all the other things that need to be changed in this game (precursor scav hunt, guild halls, whatever is being brought in the feb/march updates including wvw changes, etc.), a mount system would be entirely superfluous and unnecessary.  

also I don't think people realize that the only thing in guild wars lore resembling a mount is a dolyak.  The only thing fitting into lore they could add would be charr vehicles or an asura invention.  There are no horses in tyria outside of undead horsemen in gw1, and we don't even see them anymore.  There are no flying animals which could be mounts, taking that out of the equation.  So, essentially you get a dolyak which would be slower than you currently walk, a big hulking piece of metal with smoke pouring out everywhere, or some silly alien invention.  The only one of those that is remotely appealing to me is the charr vehicle, and even then I'd rather just run around in my armor that I took a long time to plan out so I could have something I like to look at for hundreds of hours.

better solution: remove WP costs or make them drastically lower.

[Gileas898]

I don't want mounts.

I just want a god damn flying carpet for my mesmer.