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#1 Eon Lilu

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:35 AM

Anyone know how to get around needing an overflow for fractals in lions arch?
Sometimes at late night or very early morning time even on high populated servers there is no chance of getting an overflow in lions arch for fractals.

Making it impossible to get a group together or play the content.

Anyone know a way around this? We don’t need overflows to play normal dungeons so why they make it so we need them for fractals?

Seems silly? Will this be fixed?

EDIT: Anet has answered :)


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This issue will be fixed in the January 28 game update.

Edited by Eon Lilu, 26 January 2013 - 03:45 PM.


#2 Thalrax

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:54 AM

gw2lfg.com try this site

And guesting is coming on january 28 so yes all of this will be fixed soon it looks like

#3 Eon Lilu

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:22 AM

View PostThalrax, on 24 January 2013 - 03:54 AM, said:

gw2lfg.com try this site

And guesting is coming on january 28 so yes all of this will be fixed soon it looks like

I already use this site, I was one of those that first posted it up on guru to get it more activity lol

The problem is overflow's are needed when grouping for fractals with players from other servers, its not a population problem it happens when any server is not in it's primetime like late night or early morning / daytime, making it impossible to play fractal content not through lacking of getting players...

You can get 5 players at that time of night or day, the problem is none of those players can play with each other due to not having an overflow, making it impossible to play together.

I have seen nothing saying that this will be fixed in the new updates? Do you have a source saying we won't need overflow's to play fractals with players from other servers?

Edited by Eon Lilu, 24 January 2013 - 04:24 AM.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:32 AM

Guesting lets you play with people in other servers, so if you managed to get a party but none of your party members are in overflow shards, you just guest to a server. There's still that 2 world per day restriction though, but I imagine it's better than nothing.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:51 AM

View PostBeraphim, on 24 January 2013 - 04:32 AM, said:

Guesting lets you play with people in other servers, so if you managed to get a party but none of your party members are in overflow shards, you just guest to a server. There's still that 2 world per day restriction though, but I imagine it's better than nothing.

That does not solve the issue at all it just pretends there is no issue, why should the players have to guest and use up there guest choices everytime they want to play fractals with someone and there is no overflows....

Anet need to take a look at this and fix it so that we can play fractals without overflows like we can with normal dungeons.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:19 AM

if u cant get into overflow on desolation, u cant on any server..its by far the most populated on EU.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:01 AM

View PostBeraphim, on 24 January 2013 - 04:32 AM, said:

Guesting lets you play with people in other servers, so if you managed to get a party but none of your party members are in overflow shards, you just guest to a server. There's still that 2 world per day restriction though, but I imagine it's better than nothing.

I would be great if people agreed on "guest here if you want fotm" server...

#8 Illein

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:05 AM

I sometimes log in early in the morning to get on an US Overflow, then leave the computer on for afternoon fractals if I am home ^^

#9 Waar Kijk Je Naar

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:26 AM

View Postsalluks, on 24 January 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

if u cant get into overflow on desolation, u cant on any server..its by far the most populated on EU.
Based on what facts?

LA on Gandara has an overflow most of the time.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:30 AM

View PostWaar Kijk Je Naar, on 24 January 2013 - 08:26 AM, said:

Based on what facts?

LA on Gandara has an overflow most of the time.

Based on the fact, the Desolation is the only "full" tagged server in EU since Launch.

#11 Eon Lilu

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

No server will have overflow at 3am or 5am etc....or during the day when everyone is at work etc....not primetime or not the weekend etc..

Im thinking off peak or off primetime, its not about population or which server your on. The issue is needing an overflow to play fractals with players in lions arch from other servers, if there is no overflows it is not possible.

Someone did tell me something, that you can join party with US group of players, join them in lions arch which will throw you an error messege and chuck you into an overflow...

Guna try that next, but Anet really should take a look at this and fix it so we can play fractals like normal dungeons without the use of overflow's.

Edited by Eon Lilu, 24 January 2013 - 02:26 PM.


#12 Gilles VI

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:30 PM

View PostEon Lilu, on 24 January 2013 - 03:35 AM, said:

Anyone know how to get around needing an overflow for fractals in lions arch?
Sometimes at late night or very early morning time even on high populated servers there is no chance of getting an overflow in lions arch for fractals.

Making it impossible to get a group together or play the content.

Anyone know a way around this? We don’t need overflows to play normal dungeons so why they make it so we need them for fractals?

Seems silly? Will this be fixed?

Have an american friend, go in group with him, and then join him, this will place you in an overflow normally.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:30 PM

Until the 28th, use GW2LFG.com to find a group in an overflow, join them, join their overflow, appologize and leave the party.
Guesting on TWO servers every 24 hours will be enough to get the work done when you cant find an overflow as far as im concerned.

#14 Eon Lilu

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

View PostGilles VI, on 24 January 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

Have an american friend, go in group with him, and then join him, this will place you in an overflow normally.

I think you missed my post above lol I covered that already.

View PostEon Lilu, on 24 January 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

No server will have overflow at 3am or 5am etc....or during the day when everyone is at work etc....not primetime or not the weekend etc..

Im thinking off peak or off primetime, its not about population or which server your on. The issue is needing an overflow to play fractals with players in lions arch from other servers, if there is no overflows it is not possible.

Someone did tell me something, that you can join party with US group of players, join them in lions arch which will throw you an error messege and chuck you into an overflow...

Guna try that next, but Anet really should take a look at this and fix it so we can play fractals like normal dungeons without the use of overflow's.

View PostgOa, on 24 January 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

Until the 28th, use GW2LFG.com to find a group in an overflow, join them, join their overflow, appologize and leave the party.
Guesting on TWO servers every 24 hours will be enough to get the work done when you cant find an overflow as far as im concerned.

I keep hearing from people that but I still have seen not a single source that says this specific issue will be fixed on the 28th...

Show me a source please that says we will no longer need overflow's for fractals after the new update?

Edited by Eon Lilu, 24 January 2013 - 02:36 PM.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:35 PM

View PostGilles VI, on 24 January 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

Have an american friend, go in group with him, and then join him, this will place you in an overflow normally.
I thought that Euro servers could not join peope in NA over flows.

Also, I dont get why fractals is different then the other dungeons.  If I step into CoF it will let anyone, overflow or their own server join me.  This seems like it should be a simple fix

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:39 PM

View PostProfessor Chaos, on 24 January 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

I thought that Euro servers could not join peope in NA over flows.

Also, I dont get why fractals is different then the other dungeons.  If I step into CoF it will let anyone, overflow or their own server join me.  This seems like it should be a simple fix

It doesn't let you join american players in overflow's, but you can join a US party of players, right click the portraits select join then in lions arch, you get thrown into an overflow with an error messege, you won't join them but you will get to be in an overflow.

Seems like the only fix around this. Really hope they do fix it so fractals are like normal dungeons and don't require oveflow to start them with players from other servers.

Edited by Eon Lilu, 24 January 2013 - 02:40 PM.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:47 PM

For me joining with people on other server seemed like lesser solution to not being able to guest. overflows and people in different servers weren't needed with the first guesting system you just guest to their server and entered the dungeon with them.

Over guesting would only be a problem for WvW but since you can't guest WvW why is there a limit?

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:59 PM

I was having the opposite problem last night...I couldn't get out of LA overflow in JQ ha.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:59 PM

I never said you wouldn't need overflow anymore to join fractals, I only implied that when all your party members can't find an overflow, you can use the guesting option (twice a day) on one of the servers to get your group together which should be enough because this only happens when very little people play (early in the morning).

They also plan to bring a bunch of changes to the fractal dongeons. Perhaps their way they plan to fix the "disconnecting issue" will make players able to join fractals from different servers/overflows. But no confirmation on that yet

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:10 PM

View PostgOa, on 24 January 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

I never said you wouldn't need overflow anymore to join fractals, I only implied that when all your party members can't find an overflow, you can use the guesting option (twice a day) on one of the servers to get your group together which should be enough because this only happens when very little people play (early in the morning).

They also plan to bring a bunch of changes to the fractal dongeons. Perhaps their way they plan to fix the "disconnecting issue" will make players able to join fractals from different servers/overflows. But no confirmation on that yet

Again I already covered this, it does not solve the issue, guesting is not a solution and its a terrible way of getting around this issue, also I have yet to even see a single source from anyone about them fixing this specific issue but people keep bringing it up....

Anet would need to fix it so overflow’s are not needed for fractals when playing with players from other servers. That would be fixing the issue that would be problem solved…Anything else is just a temp solution to a long term issue.

Edited by Eon Lilu, 24 January 2013 - 03:16 PM.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:40 PM

View PostEon Lilu, on 24 January 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

Again I already covered this, it does not solve the issue, guesting is not a solution and its a terrible way of getting around this issue, also I have yet to even see a single source from anyone about them fixing this specific issue but people keep bringing it up....

Anet would need to fix it so overflow’s are not needed for fractals when playing with players from other servers. That would be fixing the issue that would be problem solved…Anything else is just a temp solution to a long term issue.

If I'm correct that has never been stated explicitly, there was only stated they would fix lots of stuff in fractals, so alot of people assume that includes the overflow problem.

View PostProfessor Chaos, on 24 January 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

I thought that Euro servers could not join peope in NA over flows.

Also, I dont get why fractals is different then the other dungeons.  If I step into CoF it will let anyone, overflow or their own server join me.  This seems like it should be a simple fix

You can't, but if you try you get thrown into a separate overflow. It's the only way to create an overflow even if there aren't many people on the normal server.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:16 PM

View Postsalluks, on 24 January 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

Based on the fact, the Desolation is the only "full" tagged server in EU since Launch.
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Overflow on Gandara:
http://i.imgur.com/BVo8cBz.jpg

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:26 PM

Sorry for my ignorance, but why is an overflow needed? o.O

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:33 PM

Easier grouping

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:35 PM

View PostEon Lilu, on 24 January 2013 - 04:51 AM, said:

That does not solve the issue at all it just pretends there is no issue, why should the players have to guest and use up there guest choices everytime they want to play fractals with someone and there is no overflows....

Don't you get 2 guesting choices per 24hours? do you really need more than that? I think ppl keep mentioning guesting as the solution because that really is the solution, they don't have to fix this "lack of overflow" issue because using overflows was just a temporary workaround while we waited on guesting to be released.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

@the butcher
To start a fractal, all party members are required to be in the same instance of LA. To party with players from other servers, that requires one to be in an overflow, so other members can join. Soon, with the introduction of guesting, there will be more options, although guesting is not a fix.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:41 PM

View PostWaar Kijk Je Naar, on 24 January 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:

Overflow on Gandara:
http://i.imgur.com/BVo8cBz.jpg

Yeah sure look at the time...1900hrs......during PRIMETIME....plz read the OP and previous posts...any server during primetime will have an overflow..

Show me an overflow server between 3am and 2pm during the week without using US players or guesting as a temporary work around...

Edited by Eon Lilu, 24 January 2013 - 07:45 PM.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:47 PM

Honestly an in-game version of GW2LFG would solve all problems, if you're able to do cross-server dungeoning.

Press Anet for that.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:38 PM

Tbh if you're looking for an overflow at 3am or 2pm, it's not an issue with the game, it's an issue with the time you're playing on.

3am, 95% of people are sleeping.
2pm, 95% of people are at work, school, etc.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:50 PM

View PostEon Lilu, on 24 January 2013 - 04:51 AM, said:

That does not solve the issue at all it just pretends there is no issue, why should the players have to guest and use up there guest choices everytime they want to play fractals with someone and there is no overflows....

Anet need to take a look at this and fix it so that we can play fractals without overflows like we can with normal dungeons.

This.

Limiting the servers you can guest to isn't the way to go. Though I'm thinking this is a ploy by Anet to get people to pack into the most populated servers (with gems) once they realize that they can't guest for their fractals party because the five people in the group are from five different servers and they already have their two guest servers picked for that day.

While from the start they should have put the fractals entrance into the environment and treated it like any other dungeon, rather than requiring the use of the personal story instance code because they started it off in a city.




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