You know what's funny? I read this before reading MrEdus' full post. Good thing I did, now I'm prepared to facepalm. Let's see if I do!
Ohhhhh, Konig is not going to like that you've cited him as inspiration for bringing out the dragon-god equivalence theory - he's one of the main opponents of the theory.
I'll be responding to this in order, so if I repeat something you said drax, no offense.
No need to assume this - while not everything comes directly from the Mists, the Prophecies manual (a part that is not written from an in-universe perspective) states that all things can trace their origins to the Mists.
I also assume that everything originates from the mist.
While they may not come from the Mists themselves, anything and everything can look at where they came from, and where that came from, and so on and so forth and eventually find ties all the way back to the Mists. Similar to how the Bible claims all humans, no matter what, can claim ties to Adam and Eve.
Right then. Facepalming time.
Next my thought is that the 6 gods and the EDs are the same entities. I believe it was Konig who put forth an idea about the EDs being something like pure magic that became sentient. I would further that in saying yes, but so were the gods. This could go to explain why the 2 sets of beings never coexsist in the same plane of exsistence. Couldn't it be part of the cycle? For 'x' number of centuries they take the form of the 6 gods, then they exit, and the EDs begin to form.
It is outright PROVEN that the Six Gods and the Elder Dragons are not the same thing. Sources: We see Abaddon, Dhuum, and Kormir in the flesh in GW1. Grenth is outright stated by one of his seven Reapers to be in conflict with Zhaitan, who's stealing souls from Grenth, during the personal story step "Cathedral of Silence". The statue of Dwayna at her temple (the one Malchor possesses) is sculpted in Dwayna's precise image - as are, for that matter, the other statues at the temple - sculpted by Malchor himself by looking at the gods directly. Each Risen Priest/Priestess talks about the gods as separate entities as Zhaitan.
In short: the Six Gods are humanoid (if not human in appearance), while the Elder Dragons very much are not. Furthermore, Grenth - at the very least - is both very much alive and very much active during GW2's time and is a rival to Zhaitan to varying degrees. He's just not active in Tyria and Tyrians don't know diddlysquat of what he's doing.
We also know for a fact that the Elder Dragons existed - for many cycles - on the world of Tyria long before the Six Gods stepped foot on the land.
Through many cycles, perhaps the gods devised a way to stop the destruction caused by the EDs, so, they gathered an army gathered from the mists (the Forgotten(the minds), the Mursaat(the muscle)) and brought them to Tyria.
Mursaat predate the Six Gods on Tyria.
The forgotten hold no known grudge for the mursaat. You mistake the forgotten for the seers there.
This would also explain the hatred that the Forgotten have for the Mursaat.
**Having them also be beings from the mists could also explain how/where they phase out to.**
And the Mists is indeed where the Mursaat left to - for they fled the world, and the only place to go to from the world is the Mists (and then to another world or realm).
Wait, what? Where or whoever said the dragons this time are different than last? If anything, the opposite is said to be true.
Like Konig, I believe that the gods are more mantles of power than specific beings, in other words, I think that the pantheon is ever changing much as the dragons that we see this cycle are different manifestations of the same mantles of power from previous awakenings.
I did make a conjecture once based out of nothing that an Elder Dragon may have been killed, but a new one of the same element formed, but it really holds no grain of salt to it - especially since we know for a fact that Kralkatorrik is the same, and Zhaitan, Jormag, and Primordus' names are all known from dwarven legend.
Furthermore, if the ED act the same in regards to passing on the mantle of power, then when ZHaitan was killed he should have risked exploding in raw power like Abaddon did.
Though Ice is still without a god when you take out Grenth. Your theory still falls apart there. And Lyssa, Kralkatorrik and Balthazar hold nothing on air (that's Dwayna's and Dwayna's alone). Same with Dwayna and earth/nature. While that concept holds more water than the typical thoughts, it still falters in various places.
So, I took my stab at fitting a story together, but still there is the matter of correlating the 6 to the EDs. As has been argued many times in the forums, the direct matches fall apart. My theory came to me when I saw a circle made of paving stones.
I made this simple illustration to try and get my idea across. My theory is that its more like a wheel in correlating them. EDs have aspects of multiple gods and vice versa, also the dominion of magic that each god holds sway over overlaps.
I'd have to agree with this, and support it by the fact that - to all our knowledge - there was no god(dess) of ice before Grenth, and water was passed from Abaddon to Lyssa. The elements bit seems to be more of an Addendum to the Six Gods, something that helps give them personality and their conceptual aspect (what the norn would call "Action") some physical manifestation.
While the gods have elemental powers (with the exception of Kormir), when it comes to the gods I would say it's the concepts that are far more important to the makeup of the gods, and the elements are simply elements that are related to those concepts
I would argue that the norn's view on the gods is most accurate to the core foundation of what makes a god - that is, that they are "Spirits" of Action. They don't call Balthazar by his name, they call him War (and not Fire, Honor, Mass Murder, etc. etc.). The only aspect that stuck between the Abaddon to Kormir translation is Knowledge (what the norn call her). Same with Dhuum to Grenth being Death (again, what the norn call him).
It seems to me that the Gods are simply adding stuff to their description based on their personalities and preferences - Grenth is the God of Death above all else. He just was always associated with ice and judgment, so he kept those aspects when he became god, becoming the patron of strict ethics and god of death, ice, darkness, and judgment.
When you look at it like this, then there's no ties between dragon and god - except for Zhaitan sharing a tie with Grenth (which puts them as competitors for souls). Except for the number "six" - and there are currently indications that tell us there might be a seventh Elder Dragon (tied to Kuunavang).