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[Winterclaw]

Here's one for all you witcher and cyberpunk fans.

I'm looking forward to it.  I know the game won't look that good, but it certainly has me hyped.  There's always room for another good Cyberpunk game out there.

[Anemone]

Nice video, ty for the share

[Senatic]

CD Project and the Witcher series is great for one reason, the story telling. It is dark, it is gritty, it is complicated and extremely well put together. It is mature story telling. Bioware has been okay in the past, lately they've been real bad, but they don't have the ability to create anything mature in terms of story, they never did. It was always very bleak, very absolute. And with bad writing about enemies so absolutely evil and so overwhelmingly powerful that the story could never go anywhere a normal person could associate with.

And I'm not talking about boobies or blood and gore. Only a child would associate these things with maturity. I'm talking about story telling where the creator isn't held back on subjects because some people might be too sensitive to them in the real world. Story telling where 5 million lobbyist groups don't get to change the core meaning of the story. A story where commercialization doesn't mean sacrificing intelligent and realistic story just so that kids can buy their games. Story telling that challenge an adult mind and make it think in new ways.

If they can bring that into a cyberpunk RPG, I'll have a hard time not loving it. We need more of these kinds of Developers, so we can get a balance between the fairy tale type of simplistic story telling games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age that are made to cater to too wide a audience and therefore come off as stretched thin and the gritty realistic down to earth story telling of games like The Witcher. Games that realize that in real life very rarely is one person completely evil, and there are no absolutes. There isn't only good or bad people. There are different points of views, and different reasons for peoples actions. Real life is complicated, and that should translate to video games.

In real life you are not a paragon or a renegade.

Edited by Senatic, 27 January 2013 - 02:01 AM.

[Firetruck]

While I agree with you, Senatic, I think it's fine for there to be stories that have well-defined lines and leave little room for speculation. They have their place in the entertainment industry. Actually, without those types of games, games like the Witcher series wouldn't stand out so much.

[Senatic]

Firetruck, on 27 January 2013 - 06:05 AM, said:

While I agree with you, Senatic, I think it's fine for there to be stories that have well-defined lines and leave little room for speculation. They have their place in the entertainment industry. Actually, without those types of games, games like the Witcher series wouldn't stand out so much.

I agree, that's why I said "We need more of these kinds of Developers, so we can get a balance".

[Specialz]

I think they announce the game a little too early. Based on speculation the game wont be release until 2015 (hopefully it is false) which means they shouldn't have preview it imo. Way too early to be hyping a game.

Senatic, on 27 January 2013 - 01:55 AM, said:

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I agree with what you say for the most part. But for your last sentence I will say that bioware is good at making video game stories while projeckCD is good at making stories. Gamers imo love to have a lot of things quantified and I think the paragon/"that other one I never use", is perfect for people that enjoy those sort of control. ProjeckCD is an Oscar bait, while Bioware is like a slightly better summer blockbuster movie.

I do hate ProjeckCD for not releasing expacs for the witcher 1 or 2, I mean real expac and stuff not the enhance version.

[Winterclaw]

Senatic, I saw a youtube video of the original Cyberpunk tabletop developer doing a promo for the game since he was a consultant, and he said something along the lines that in cyberpunk technology isn't about saving the world, it's about saving yourself.  It's dystopian so generally to do it right, there needs to be at least some grayness to it.  That's not to say there isn't good or bad and you should overdo grayness, it's just that all 3 probably ought to be muted.

IMO the witcher is interesting, but probably overdoes it.  On the other side, if you watch zero punctuation, Yahtzee often complains about games with moral choices forcing you into being all good or all evil.  That's probably not good for this game either.

[Stargate]

Winterclaw, on 29 January 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Senatic, I saw a youtube video of the original Cyberpunk tabletop developer doing a promo for the game since he was a consultant, and he said something along the lines that in cyberpunk technology isn't about saving the world, it's about saving yourself.  It's dystopian so generally to do it right, there needs to be at least some grayness to it.  That's not to say there isn't good or bad and you should overdo grayness, it's just that all 3 probably ought to be muted.

IMO the witcher is interesting, but probably overdoes it.  On the other side, if you watch zero punctuation, Yahtzee often complains about games with moral choices forcing you into being all good or all evil.  That's probably not good for this game either.

Cool video in OP.

You are correct Cyberpunk is not about saving the World instead it is about saving yourself and MAYBE a few others like family if you really care about them.

Witcher 2 was great to me because of good Action combat, some good twists in the story and full nudity as it should be! That said Witcher is not Cyberpunk or even SCIFI.

Titan Blizzards next MMO is SCIFI! There is a very small rumor that it MAYBE has Cyperpunk theme also but that is pretty much speculation.
Yeah Cyberpunk movies if you don't like old movies then try Doomsday(2008).

Edited by Kamatsu, 03 February 2013 - 11:34 PM.
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[Heart Collector]

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