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[lmaonade]

Whenever I watch vids of Guardians in WvW I always see JI, SYG, and SY, how come no one runs consecrations? I always seem to have a use for Wall of Reflection, especially in large fights, and no one seems to use Hold the Line either, is SY much more superior to it?

[Enillion]

Not really.

The reason is, its much more fun to see damage numbers than to go support.
Its like with playing support hero in LoL, most people will do anything to avoid it.

[lmaonade]

Enillion, on 04 February 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

Not really.

The reason is, its much more fun to see damage numbers than to go support.
Its like with playing support hero in LoL, most people will do anything to avoid it.

I play LoL extensively and I love playing support...

[Enillion]

And that's why you find it natural to use support skills that have great impact on teamplay, instead of using selfbuffs for minor dps boost.

Edited by Enillion, 05 February 2013 - 09:12 AM.

[indure]

I use WoR a lot and the more experienced I become, the more I realize its benefits over a shout, especially in large zergs.

I particularly find it useful when solo capturing camps in WvW. Pull all mobs>drop WoR to block the 2 range assassins>kill camp boss and melee>switch to range attacker and they are already at 50-75% health.

Since my damage isn't too high I like to combine WoR>Shield of the Avenger>WoR to give myself 40s of range protection. Which is plenty of time to kill the camp boss.

Edited by indure, 06 February 2013 - 12:47 AM.

[lmaonade]

indure, on 06 February 2013 - 12:47 AM, said:

I use WoR a lot and the more experienced I become, the more I realize its benefits over a shout, especially in large zergs.

I particularly find it useful when solo capturing camps in WvW. Pull all mobs>drop WoR to block the 2 range assassins>kill camp boss and melee>switch to range attacker and they are already at 50-75% health.

Since my damage isn't too high I like to combine WoR>Shield of the Avenger>WoR to give myself 40s of range protection. Which is plenty of time to kill the camp boss.

same here, I find that people are quite mindless in large zerg vs zerg wars, I plop down a WoR and watch thieves, rangers, warriors kill themselves (well not really, but it's a VERY good tool for helping teammates retreat from a fight)

I think I've found myself quite a nice niche for when I feel like joining the hive mind, so far I've had very good results in helping teammates retreat, since there are always those 5 ish stragglers left after the main zerg has left the fight and they usually if not always die because of over extension. Good uses of Staff and WoR means your peeps get away just fine.

I've mostly been keeping a the consecrations cooldown trait on, but I think I'll start playing around with the ground targeting trait, it seems like a good idea for area denial and even more spectacular saves.

Edited by lmaonade, 06 February 2013 - 10:30 AM.

[Red_Falcon]

WoR is possibly one of the best skills in WvW.
15 seconds of reflecting all projectiles preventing damage to your army while doing damage to the other is pretty dope.
Unless you're going for bursty build or you don't care about teamplay I don't see a reason not to pick WoR.

[_Belisarius_]

Consecrations are fantastic in WvW.  I used to run full consecrations with WoR, Sanctuary and Purging Flames.  Was it useful?  Yes.  More so in large battles than in small group fights though.  My biggest gripe is that the game does not reward this style of gameplay.  Are you valuable to your team?  Absolutely.  But you get a very small amount of bags which usually means that WvW is not profitable for you.

After trying everything I could to avoid it, I ended up switching to one of the AH/EM builds.  Still valuable to the team and get at least double the loot.  I do miss my consecrations sometimes though.

[lmaonade]

_Belisarius_, on 06 February 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Consecrations are fantastic in WvW.  I used to run full consecrations with WoR, Sanctuary and Purging Flames.  Was it useful?  Yes.  More so in large battles than in small group fights though.  My biggest gripe is that the game does not reward this style of gameplay.  Are you valuable to your team?  Absolutely.  But you get a very small amount of bags which usually means that WvW is not profitable for you.

After trying everything I could to avoid it, I ended up switching to one of the AH/EM builds.  Still valuable to the team and get at least double the loot.  I do miss my consecrations sometimes though.

Usually take more of an in between type of build, I went for AH/EM might stacking also, but I usually only take 1 or 2 shouts depending on the situation, my default loadout is Hold the Line, Wall of Reflection, and Stand Your Ground. Then I change things up according to situation.

I have tried a JI pewpew burst build and actually found it pretty fun too lol, too bad there are only 3 utility slots I've felt the limit the most on my Guardian.