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#1 Ship Soo

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:16 PM

I tried a search on this topic but could not find anything exact, so I'll ask it here.


How do Sigil of Blood and lifesteal food interact?

Are they worth running together? What are the mechanics?

The gw2 official wiki is SO confusing...it mostly talks about 2 sigil interactions, but nothing about food + sigil


Anyone know?
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#2 FoxBat

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

Food procs have no internal cooldown, so there's no "interaction." On any crit, they will both independently roll their own chance to proc. Sigil procs will be ignored while any one sigil is on cooldown, food will work as always. That's all there is to it.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:27 PM

sigil of blood - 30% chance to steal life on critical hit, 2 second internal cooldown unless you are using another on crit/on swap sigil that has triggered a cooldown.
omnom pies - 66% chance to steal life on critical, no internal cooldown

#4 Lilly32

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:53 AM

So can they both proc at the same time off the same crit giving you a double heal?  I think thats what hes asking.

Edited by Lilly32, 04 February 2013 - 04:54 AM.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:20 AM

I would assume so, but there's little point in using both. The food consumable is so OP compared to the sigil that you're better of just going for a sigil that adds more to your build.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:26 PM

View PostLilly32, on 04 February 2013 - 04:53 AM, said:

So can they both proc at the same time off the same crit giving you a double heal?  I think thats what hes asking.

yes they do, I've tested with a flamethrower on my engineer.

View PostEvans, on 04 February 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

I would assume so, but there's little point in using both. The food consumable is so OP compared to the sigil that you're better of just going for a sigil that adds more to your build.

it's still extra damage every 2 seconds because it's a life steal not just a heal.  the only thing making sigil of blood not OP is the fact that it has an internal cooldown of 2 seconds, which is better than most of the other on-crit sigils (I believe most of them are 5 seconds) anyways.  at level 80 it's like an 800 heal every 2 seconds or so (depending on the proc of sigil of blood) with crit and a bunch of around 350 heals between that.

are the foods definitely better?  yes.  but taking both isn't entirely detrimental either, and building around both isn't a bad idea.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:16 PM

Ya building around the two is not a bad idea. It give so much heal, that you can sacrifice defensive stats for more offensive stats when you use those.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:32 PM

View Postmatsif, on 04 February 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

yes they do, I've tested with a flamethrower on my engineer.

What how would an engineer get a double proc?  What does an engineer have that would stack with healing food?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:47 PM

View PostDabrixmgp, on 04 February 2013 - 10:32 PM, said:

What how would an engineer get a double proc?  What does an engineer have that would stack with healing food?

....

a sigil of blood.  which procs as a separate entity from the life steal food.  both of which can proc on the same crit.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:50 AM

Thanks for the answers all. I kind of proved it to myself over the last few days.


View PostEvans, on 04 February 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

The food consumable is so OP compared to the sigil that you're better of just going for a sigil that adds more to your build.

There is a point if the best food you can make so far is 36% :)

I might change the Blood sigil eventually for something else.
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