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[Red_Falcon]

This build is based off a cohesion of the trait Empowered with the Runes of Lyssa and other innate abilities of the Warrior to increase his damage by percentage.

This build offers:

• Extreme Damage
  
• Very high Survivability
  
• Extreme Mobility
  
• Very high Condition Removal

The concept is this; whenever you use Signet of Rage you get all boons in the game for 15 seconds.
This includes OP stuff such as Retailiation and Protection which greatly increase both damage and survivability, and Stability which makes you immune to CC.
Also, this build removes all conditions and turns them into boons (again, including retailation and protection).

As long as your Endurance is not full and you're popping SoR/warhorn skills when out of CD you can't have less than +38% damage bonus. (+36% if you don't bother with Warhorn).
A normal glass cannon gets only +22-25% bonus damage without any sort of protection, this build gets you more damage than glass cannons while a ton more survivability.

Plus it gets as high as 58% when you are in the godmode status that SoR gives you for 15 seconds and your enemy is marked.

And on top of this, you get +40% Magic Find. This is the most magic find you can get by food, and since this food also gives 20% boon duration your godmode status will last 2 seconds more than normal.


Armor:
- Berserker gear.
- Rune of Lyssa

Jewels:
- Pow/Prec/CritDmg from jewels (36% crit damage).

Sigils:
- Either Superior Force or Strength, personal preference; it's also useful to stack 250 power by using Sigil of Bloodlust on your weapon swap.

Food:
- Chocolate Omnomberry Cream + Superior sharpening stone

http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/2627-knight-of-the-nine-boons

Note:
This build is also extremely good for WVW with some adaptations.
Swap shouts for Bull/Bolas and Frenzy, swap shout trait for Leg Specialist.
Good luck killing a Warrior with 15s of godmode and extreme damage.





This build offers:

• Highest Damage
  
• Extreme Mobility
  
• Very high Condition Removal

The concept is 100% uptime on Signet of Rage boons plus high uptime on vigor.
Also, this build removes all conditions and turns them into boons (including retailation and protection).
In this build you can't have less than +38% damage bonus. (+36% if you don't bother with Warhorn) which is more than any glass cannon out there.
A normal glass cannon gets only +22-25% bonus damage without any sort of protection.
Plus it gets as high as 48% when your target is marked with OMM.

And on top of this, you get +45% duration on all boons in general and maximized critical chance.


Armor:
- Berserker gear.
- Rune of Lyssa

Jewels:
- Pow/Prec/CritDmg from jewels (36% crit damage).

Sigils:
- Either Superior Force or Strength, personal preference; it's also useful to stack 250 power by using Sigil of Bloodlust on your weapon swap.

Food:
- Orrian Truffle Steak + Superior sharpening stone

Note:
This build is also extremely good for WVW with some adaptations.
Swap shouts for Bull/Bolas and Frenzy, swap shout trait for Leg Specialist.

http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/2633-empowered-knight

Edited by Red_Falcon, 07 February 2013 - 11:40 AM.

[Lucav]

Your build appears to be linking to something else. Also lyssa runes are 5 seconds of all boons modified by boon duration, so around 6s with 20 points in tactics.

Edited by Lucav, 05 February 2013 - 05:08 AM.

[Epitaph_Blade]

No Way bro.

I've been working on this build for a week or so...I'm a sad panda because you posted it before, but nvm that, I will give you, and all, what I've found about this cool build, with all respect.

First of all, I was using Sonic Boon build before, kind of liked the synergy it got, with the shouts, not really the heals, but mostly, the might!

But the problem with that build, is when you are under conditions, I dont like soldier runes, son, only 1 cond removal, wasn't enough.

Then I saw this really mediocre skill "Mending", cures 2 conditions, and heals you for a bit.
Then I started running data about what happen when I play. Here are my results.

Most common conditions are movility conditions, like crippled, chilled, etc. But we have a trait in Strength that removes those when you heal. Making Mending a massive cond removal, since aside of movility conds, is not likely you will get more than 2 other conditions.

That first, then is the runes of Lyssa. What I saw here was, not just the massive cond removal with elite, but the nice amount of prec it gives, and the random boon when you heal.

Then you look at empowered, and this build is born.

The traits I got are a bit different from yours.

30 STR : [ II ] Restorative Strength (cond remov), [ V ]:Berserker's Power (damage), [ IX ]: Slashing Power (more damage, variable)
20 ARM: [ v ] Rending Strikes (cond +dmg), [ X ]Forceful Greatsword (MIGHT)
0 Def
10 TAC: [ VI ] Empowered (dmg +synergy)
10 DIC: [ VI] Signet Mastery (synergy)

Now you see, I'm making use of STR branch for more damage and better synergy.

This leave me with 2 massive cond removals, synergy with Boons (+dmg), but then while testing I realized that I could get something more. MIGHT (25 stacks)

1 free utility slot (I use balanced stance but you can switch to whatever you want/need)
1 For Great Justice (might, fury, synergy = 4%dmg)
1 Signet of Might (might, synergy = 2%dmg)

The thing is, with all the prec you get from the runes of lyssa, plus the knight armor, and zerk trinkets, you are sitting in 75% crit chance with fury, which means lots of crits = lots of might with the great sword using sigil for might on crit.

- I got easily 17-25 stacks of might, very very easy.
- I have 2 massive cond removals: elite with increased time for fury and swiftness, and increased stacks of might + heal which almost always means total cond removal plus 1 random boon
- Very high crit chance, and high damage (around 4000 dps with might)
- 20k  hp
- 2600~ armor

So a very versatile warrior, with all the boons at his disposal, and since not that high hp.


I'm sorry if my english have some mistakes (not native speaker), and well...this is the build I created, which is very similar to the one falcon created. Tho we never met (i believe) before, so no plagiarism here =)

[Stigma]

A build that desires to low endurance levels sounds dangerous for Fractals.

So you're using the same exact traits as your Invincible Berserker build? You sure know how to make good names for your builds I give you that. According to the wiki, lyssa is 5 seconds so I don't know if you're right.

Is this build better than a Five Signet Warrior ?

Edited by Stigma, 05 February 2013 - 09:31 AM.

[TakumiUsui]

How do you get 15sec of boons out of Lyssa

Lucav, on 05 February 2013 - 05:04 AM, said:

Also lyssa runes are 5 seconds of all boons modified by boon duration, so around 6s with 20 points in tactics.

This^
How do you want to get 15 sec from Lyssa?

[lmaonade]

Stigma, on 05 February 2013 - 09:25 AM, said:

A build that desires to low endurance levels sounds dangerous for Fractals.

So you're using the same exact traits as your Invincible Berserker build? You sure know how to make good names for your builds I give you that. According to the wiki, lyssa is 5 seconds so I don't know if you're right.

Is this build better than a Five Signet Warrior ?

I think OP got a bit confuzzled with this post, he states that he has +12% damage with berserker's power but the build he linked has no points in Strength lol, and "Save Yourselves" + Lyssa runes would put him at 15s without boon duration, but warriors don't have access to SY

and everything is better than a 5 signet warrior, which is a total noobtrap build

[Xsiriss]

Lyssa has an internal CD of 50 seconds (not sure why it's 60 on the wiki) and using them myself I can confirm you have to wait an extra 2 secs before using Rage.

Damage wise I don't know what you're on but it's mediocre. Sticking to the paradigm of using a GS for DPS (which Strife showed as plain wrong). Looks like more of an excuse to overcompensate by waving around a big sword.

Defensively if you're relying on passives at any point, you're doing it wrong. There are very few situations you'll have to use all your energy up and you will never be soloing any worthwhile content, your team is also key.

For PvE if you want DPS and defense use a mix of Solider and Knight's gear with Zerker's accessories along with something like this http://gw2skills.net...IbRuikFtwYgxkAA .It's flexible enough to swap traits and weapons around for most situations, from speed runs to fracs.

Edited by Xsiriss, 05 February 2013 - 10:09 AM.

[Red_Falcon]

Lucav, on 05 February 2013 - 05:04 AM, said:

Your build appears to be linking to something else. Also lyssa runes are 5 seconds of all boons modified by boon duration, so around 6s with 20 points in tactics.

It's a bug of that site, will fix in a minute. Sorry about that.

Xsiriss, on 05 February 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

Lyssa has an internal CD of 50 seconds (not sure why it's 60 on the wiki) and using them myself I can confirm you have to wait an extra 2 secs before using Rage.

Damage wise I don't know what you're on but it's mediocre. Sticking to the paradigm of using a GS for DPS (which Strife showed as plain wrong). Looks like more of an excuse to overcompensate by waving around a big sword.

Defensively if you're relying on passives at any point, you're doing it wrong. There are very few situations you'll have to use all your energy up and you will never be soloing any worthwhile content, your team is also key.

For PvE if you want DPS and defense use a mix of Solider and Knight's gear with Zerker's accessories along with something like this http://gw2skills.net...IbRuikFtwYgxkAA .It's flexible enough to swap traits and weapons around for most situations, from speed runs to fracs.

Please don't post idiocy.
GS/Axe plus 38%-58% damage is the best DPS you can possibly get.
This build works with Axe as well, I just posted GS because most people seem to like that playstyle.

Stigma, on 05 February 2013 - 09:25 AM, said:

A build that desires to low endurance levels sounds dangerous for Fractals.

So you're using the same exact traits as your Invincible Berserker build? You sure know how to make good names for your builds I give you that. According to the wiki, lyssa is 5 seconds so I don't know if you're right.

Is this build better than a Five Signet Warrior ?

Not sure this is a serious post, 5 signet build is a build that is obsolete once lvl 50-60 or so.

Also this build has permanent Vigor which means double endurance regen.
You can even reach 250% endurance regen if you add Signet of Stamina in place of FGJ or OMM.

Finally, Lyssa runes is 10 seconds (15 with 50% boon duration that my build has) in PvE and WvW, it's 5 seconds only in sPvP.

Edited by Red_Falcon, 05 February 2013 - 12:33 PM.

[LunarN]

No, Lyssa is 5 seconds

[Geralt Romalion]

Red_Falcon, on 05 February 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

Finally, Lyssa runes is 10 seconds (15 with 50% boon duration that my build has) in PvE and WvW, it's 5 seconds only in sPvP.

the wiki states the following:

(1): +25 Precision (2): +10% Condition Duration (3): +50 Precision (4): When you use a healing skill, you gain a random boon for 10 seconds. (Cooldown: 10s) (5): +90 Precision (6): When you use an elite skill, lose all conditions and gain all boons for 5 seconds.

So unless the wiki is wrong, the all boons part is 5 seconds, meaning this guy :

LunarN, on 05 February 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

No, Lyssa is 5 seconds

Would be correct.

Perhaps you are confusing benefit #6 with benefit #4?
Since benefit #4 is 10 seconds in pve and 5 in pvp,

[Xsiriss]

Red_Falcon, on 05 February 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

Please don't post idiocy.
GS/Axe plus 38%-58% damage is the best DPS you can possibly get.
This build works with Axe as well, I just posted GS because most people seem to like that playstyle

Sorry claiming 'max damage and extreme survivability' is the idiocy here. These are a poor choice of traits and have terrible, flawed justification. As I said specing for passive defense and expecting it to do all the work is bad, and getting into a situation where something like Endure Pain becomes useful is poor play. Confused traits.

Furthermore you seem to have very little knowledge of how basic mechanics work. Signet of stamina only gives 33% extra endurance and does not stack, even if you had permanent Vigor as claimed (which is plain wrong) it caps at +100%. And as has been clearly stated Lyssa is only 5 seconds, even if you had +50% boon duration, which again is not listed, you're looking at 7.5 seconds every 50 seconds. This is not enough to justify 'extreme survivability'.

Edited by Xsiriss, 05 February 2013 - 01:40 PM.

[Red_Falcon]

LunarN, on 05 February 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

No, Lyssa is 5 seconds

Lyssa is 10 seconds in PvE, 5 in PvP.

Go check yourself in the game. The game proves you wrong.

Xsiriss, on 05 February 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

Sorry claiming 'max damage and extreme survivability' is the idiocy here. These are a poor choice of traits and have terrible, flawed justification. As I said specing for passive defense and expecting it to do all the work is bad, and getting into a situation where something like Endure Pain becomes useful is poor play. Confused traits.

Furthermore you seem to have very little knowledge of how basic mechanics work. Signet of stamina only gives 33% extra endurance and does not stack, even if you had permanent Vigor as claimed (which is plain wrong) it caps at +100%. And as has been clearly stated Lyssa is only 5 seconds, even if you had +50% boon duration, which again is not listed, you're looking at 7.5 seconds every 50 seconds. This is not enough to justify 'extreme survivability'.

First off Lyssa is 10 seconds feel free to check the TP for it or buy the runes. It's 5 seconds only in sPvP.
Second this build has 38 to 58 percent increased damage, not even full glass cannons get remotely close to this damage.

Third and last, unless you provide evidence this is my last reply to you.
I'm done squashing lies from haters of my builds, I won't feed any nolifer hating anymore.

Not bothering to post here anymore, I shared my new build who likes it can use it, who hates me can freely troll/insult/be a child, internet allows that anyways.

Edited by Red_Falcon, 05 February 2013 - 03:11 PM.

[Sans]

Rune's of Lyssa Boons last 5 seconds, You don't even seem to try your builds, but only get as far as saving them on a skillbuilder.

Also "A better 'Save Yourselves'"....
Boons' from "Save Yourselves" last twice as long, dont require you to use your elite, or all your rune slots.
+ the point of the skill IS to remove conditions from your teammates.

read it. "save YOURSELVES" not "F YOU GUYS IM OUTTA HERE"

that neat picture of yours took longer to create than this build I think.

Edited by Sans, 05 February 2013 - 03:24 PM.

[Xsiriss]

Red_Falcon, on 05 February 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

Lyssa is 10 seconds in PvE, 5 in PvP.

Go check yourself in the game. The game proves you wrong.

First off Lyssa is 10 seconds feel free to check the TP for it or buy the runes. It's 5 seconds only in sPvP.
Second this build has 38 to 58 percent increased damage, not even full glass cannons get remotely close to this damage.

Third and last, unless you provide evidence this is my last reply to you.

The 4th random boon which can't be relied upon is 10 seconds, all boons are only 5 seconds. Having used Lyssa runes since release this is definitely the case. Everything I've said can be found on the wiki, THERE is my evidence. You however consistently have given none. This is not hating, this is pointing out basic and critical flaws. You failed to address anything meaningful; you do not have perma vigor and it does not stack with Signet of Stamina,

As for claims of 'damaged increased to levels you can't get in any other way' your basic Axe/Mace will easily outperform. The auto attack alone is better and more mobile whilst the vuln stacks are useful and only just short of 'On My Mark!'. If spec'd moderately in to crits you can reach: 75% crit rate from perma fury, food, sigil and the banner, with 80% extra crit damage (90% for axe) and 3.2-3.4k base attack (depends on might stacks achieved). In order to achieve high, consistent DPS you will need to spec into crits, flat damage bonuses can't compare. 230% damage occuring 3/4 times vs 58% flat wins outright, not to mention any on crit proc effects.

If you can't argue for your own build beyond 'hurr dis is wot i can do honest' don't post them.

[matsif]

nice troll build bro, having run runes of lyssa for a while on my guardian the boons from 6 of the runes definitely only last 5 seconds.

nice try though.

[Dirame]

Dude, you need to fix that darn build link so we can actually see the build.

Edited by Dirame, 05 February 2013 - 03:52 PM.

[typographie]

Red_Falcon, on 05 February 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

First off Lyssa is 10 seconds feel free to check the TP for it or buy the runes.

Let me make sure I understand.. we should give you the benefit of the doubt to go buy six Superior Runes of Lyssa from the TP currently at 2.6g a piece, presumably replacing whatever runes we're currently using, just because you have made an assertion? The burden of proof does not rest on us here.

Consensus around the interwebs seems to be that the fourth set bonus is 5 seconds in PvP, 10 seconds in PvE, and the sixth is 5 seconds anywhere.

[Red_Falcon]

typographie, on 05 February 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Let me make sure I understand.. we should give you the benefit of the doubt to go buy six Superior Runes of Lyssa from the TP currently at 2.6g a piece, presumably replacing whatever runes we're currently using, just because you have made an assertion? The burden of proof does not rest on us here.

Consensus around the interwebs seems to be that the fourth set bonus is 5 seconds in PvP, 10 seconds in PvE, and the sixth is 5 seconds anywhere.

I'm really not forcing anyone to use my builds man.
Anyone is free to play his game as he wishes, I suggest an effective setup and that's about it. You don't like it? Don't use it.
I just found this build very effective when I used it and thought I'd post it.

And even if Lyssa was nerfed to 5s in PvE for real, 7.5s of protection/retailation is still worth a shot, and the damage bonus alone is still superior to that of any other Warrior build that does not rely on Boon duration + Empowered + Boon conversion.
In dungeons you usually have at least 6-8 boons, especially if you convert them with warhorn.
That's 12 to 18 percent damage increase, like having another Berserker's Might trait for free.

@XSI
As I said above the build can be used with Axe too.
Just swap Slashing Power for Axe mastery.

[Asbodai]

You appear to have some haters, I don't blame you for not wanting to reply. However, I am very intrigued by your build. Whether the Lyssa boon is 5 seconds or 10 can be verified simply enough in game, so let's leave that aside.

What I would like to know is confirmation that the Swiftness, Fury and Might when using SoR stacks with the Lyssa proc. Let's just assume that the Lyssa boon is 5 seconds for now, obviously 10 would be awesome... so, please confirm whether:

When you ding SOR, both swiftness and fury will tick for 52.5 seconds, being [30 (from SOR) + 5 (Lyssa)] * 1.5 (50% boon increase from 30 points in tactics + 20% choccy cream). Might will simply stack 6 times (5 from SoR and 1 from Lyssa) for the first 7.5 seconds and then drop to 5 might for the remaining 37.5 seconds (30*1.5 - 5*1.5).

Given SoR recharge can be reduced to 48 seconds you have permanent swiftness and fury and 81% might from one skill. I can live with that (if it stacks of course). If Lyssa ticks for 10 then I congratulate your build, it would be pretty amazing.

Thanks for your reply (hopefully).

Edited by Asbodai, 05 February 2013 - 04:55 PM.

[Rahlek]

http://wiki.guildwar...i/Rune_of_Lyssa
(1): +25 Precision (2): +10% Condition Duration (3): +50 Precision (4): When you use a healing skill, you gain a random boon for 10 seconds. (Cooldown: 10s) (5): +90 Precision (6): When you use an elite skill, lose all conditions and gain all boons for 5 seconds.

Notes

• Condition duration from the runes isn't reflected in skill tooltips, but it does correctly increase duration.
  
• In competitive PvP, the 4th bonus grants 5 seconds of Protection and Retaliation instead of 10.
  
• 6th bonus is fixed, works with timing of the elite skill used.

It wasn't "nerfed" to 5 seconds, it just is 5 seconds. The only one affected by PvP/PvE is the 4th.

I might suggest spending less time on fancy pictures and more time on research next time.

Edited by Rahlek, 05 February 2013 - 05:01 PM.

[Xsiriss]

I can confirm Lyssa is only 5 seconds for all boons, as I stated I've been using it since release. Furthermore it has the internal cool down of 50 seconds (not sure why that's been removed from the wiki).

[dukefx]

Stick and Move + lots of vigor are a bad combination and very situational anyways, if you keep dodging you aren't doing damage
+50% boon duration? A maxed tactics tree would give you 30% and the runes you are using do not provide any boon duration (only a mix of monk+water could get you to 50%)
Runes: I agree with all the other repliers: 5sec+boon duration no matter where
I still don't see the build but I assume something like:
25 in Strength (stick and move)
20 in Arms (gs traits)
20 in Tactics (wh trait)
^ 65 so far which leaves you with 5 more points which you probably spent in the Strength line, so in the end you have 20% (25% at most) boon duration
Extreme damage: care to show some numbers? In a good party (a few extra might stacks from party member) I auto-attack for ~4k
Another thing about the warhorn trait, although I haven't tried it in ages: it turns 1 single condition into a boon, then removes the slowing conditions. If you are poisoned and immobilized it may turn the immobilization into a boon and not remove anything else.

Edit: found the boon duration increase: the consumable that could be something far better, but with all those traits you won't have 30 points in tactics. A working build link would also be welcome.

Edited by dukefx, 05 February 2013 - 06:56 PM.

[Lucav]

Asbodai, on 05 February 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

You appear to have some haters, I don't blame you for not wanting to reply. However, I am very intrigued by your build. Whether the Lyssa boon is 5 seconds or 10 can be verified simply enough in game, so let's leave that aside.

What I would like to know is confirmation that the Swiftness, Fury and Might when using SoR stacks with the Lyssa proc. Let's just assume that the Lyssa boon is 5 seconds for now, obviously 10 would be awesome... so, please confirm whether:

When you ding SOR, both swiftness and fury will tick for 52.5 seconds, being [30 (from SOR) + 5 (Lyssa)] * 1.5 (50% boon increase from 30 points in tactics + 20% choccy cream). Might will simply stack 6 times (5 from SoR and 1 from Lyssa) for the first 7.5 seconds and then drop to 5 might for the remaining 37.5 seconds (30*1.5 - 5*1.5).

Given SoR recharge can be reduced to 48 seconds you have permanent swiftness and fury and 81% might from one skill. I can live with that (if it stacks of course). If Lyssa ticks for 10 then I congratulate your build, it would be pretty amazing.

Thanks for your reply (hopefully).

It does stack, and no its not amazing. SoR is amazing, lyssa runes are a waste of a rune slot.

As far as survivability goes, you would get far more out of an omnomberry pie then you ever would out of the runes "godmode".

Edited by Lucav, 05 February 2013 - 06:51 PM.

[Stigma]

I was just trolling but your build does look interesting. If someone gets around to it before I do tonight I would really work out the math behind it because you're confusing the +% Damage with +%Critical Damage. The core of a full berserker build comes from the +% Critical Damage. The core of your build comes from Empowered (getting +2% from every boon).

Quote

Critical hits have a base damage multiplier of 150% to the base damage of the attack. Critical Damage is added to the damage multiplier as a percentage. For example, 50 (+50%) Critical Damage results in 200% damage multiplier on critical hits.

http://wiki.guildwar...Critical_damage

One would really need to sit down and crunch the numbers between a spec'ed out full berserker warrior (+30% Crit damage from armor) and a Knight of 9 Boons builds based on the equation:

Critical Hit Expected damage = Base damage * ((0.50 + (Critical Damage / 100)) * (Critical Chance / 100) + 1)

http://wiki.guildwar....ical_hi<br />t

I don't really care about boon durations for now so...from just a rough calculation based on some assumptions it yields:


I threw in a Knight geared Warrior with full Lyssa runes as well just to gauge the damage. The closeness of these numbers look really interesting to me. These numbers are generated with Epitaph's interpretation of your build. We would really need to see your REAL trait tree

Edited by Stigma, 05 February 2013 - 09:21 PM.

[dukefx]

Using that formula I have 6397 base. No fury, no might stacks, no maintenance oil and I have some toughness as well

[Stigma]

dukefx, on 05 February 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

Using that formula I have 6397 base. No fury, no might stacks, no maintenance oil and I have some toughness as well

Your numbers will be different than mine as we both entered different inputs and I also didn't bother to take into account Power. I might as well throw in Fury since Critical Chance does have a place in the equation. However, in my example I tried comparing apples and apples in a comparative study w/o any food or might. I'm sure I have some mistakes somewhere as well but the error should somewhat be across the board. It does show the feasibility of this build though.

If anything Red Falcon's build did make me take another look at the damage equation and see the importance of Base Damage. I rather have more math to back up his claims before posting such a radical build and not anticipate heavy hands of scrutiny, and also a more accurate interpretation of damage dealt. + Damage % and + Critical Damage % are clearly two different things. Accident or not he might have stumbled upon something worth looking at here.

Edit: I found his traits:
https://forum-en.gui...-the-Nine-Boons

No might generation at all or any points in the Arms tree (Sacrificing Forceful greatsword and precision for warhorn and shout traits)....I will have to adjust the critical chance multiplier when I get home later....there could be a large decrease in Critical hit damage.

It's also interesting for Red Falcon to post a boon build when he's at war with Sonic Boon warriors. Cmon now Red Falcon! I thought u made fun of Sonic Boon for maxing out Tactics.

It's like... "I've got 9 boons now! Watcha got b....s!?" =P

So let's say everything is legit and checks out. If 5-15 seconds of minor increase in damage over a full berserker that utilize 100% of its damage potential the whole time worth it? Those 9 boons do provide very nice utility....for however long it lasts..

9 Boons is a radical idea, but the build might need more work as of now especially when there is practically no Might generation of any kind anywhere. Epitaph's trait tree looks a whole lot more reasonable to me as he has higher crit chance and might generation w/o sacrificing anything you gained from 9 boons.

Edited by Stigma, 06 February 2013 - 01:25 AM.

[dukefx]

GS with no might stacking 0_o

[chuckles79]

Ok, the million dollar question that I haven't seen answered here.
The sixth rune gives all boons for 5 seconds.

Is this, or is this not affected by boon duration modifiers? (aka, Omnomberry cremes?)

5 seconds makes this a burst gimmick, 7.5 seconds makes this a great "oh $#@%!"  button.  I'm not aware of any other boon modifiers other than more points into tactics.

Can someone confirm?

[Dirame]

Tried something with the boons in mind. My conclusion; Meh. Doesn't seem to add much to what is already there especially since it only lasts for 5 seconds.

[Stigma]

dukefx, on 05 February 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

GS with no might stacking 0_o

It's okay because he's throwing in a greatsword just cause.... I don't know .. it's hard to take his build seriously after seeing the real traits he chose. I would've thought this was a troll thread... which i still might.

chuckles79, on 05 February 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

Ok, the million dollar question that I haven't seen answered here.
The sixth rune gives all boons for 5 seconds.

Is this, or is this not affected by boon duration modifiers? (aka, Omnomberry cremes?)

5 seconds makes this a burst gimmick, 7.5 seconds makes this a great "oh $#@%!"  button.  I'm not aware of any other boon modifiers other than more points into tactics.

Can someone confirm?

It seems that everyone from the official forums thread says the boon is only 5 seconds and not 10 in PvE. So i'm curious to verify it myself. The only person to claim it is affected by boon duration is Red Falcon so...who wants to dump 18 gold into this?

The high survivability is false as you're dependent on 5-15sec boons and the rest of the time is a Elite skill cool down. I don't care what anyone says -A hundred blades warrior w/o frenzy has lower DPS than one who does.

I still believe the million dollar question is actually : Is this build better than a 5 Signets Warrior?

Edited by Stigma, 06 February 2013 - 12:59 AM.