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#1 DonZardeone

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:56 AM

I maxed my mesmer and he looks fabulous. So first priority is done. Second priority, build?

I keep hearing about "the shatter build" but there's nowhere that I can find "the shatter build"

I'm putting 20 into duelling and 30 in illusions. Where to put the rest? Why? Where's the shatter build?

I'm not fully geared up yet, but I use swordsword staff and poop clones all over the place which I shatter but I don't feel my damage is anywhere near that of a ptv warrior (miles away from a zerker)

Mesmer gods, show me the way? :D

#2 Heart Collector

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:07 AM

I'm not an expert on the Mesmer (and I'm too casual to become one even though I'm playing the class), but shatter builds generally revolve around traits that make our shatters better, i.e. the 10% mind wrack critical and shatter-on-self traits in the Illusions tree, the 20% mind wrack damage trait in domination etc. Basically everything that allows for more powerful, effective and consistent shatters.

I believe the go-to build for this is the "shatter cat" build, it's hovering around the forums somewhere! I think it's on youtube too.

Edited by Heart Collector, 07 February 2013 - 07:13 AM.


#3 Gen1tor

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:29 AM

Off topic: imho it s always better if u develop your own build that mostly suits your personal gameplay. Luckily there's no cookie cutter builds in GW2 (at least in theory).

On topic: A shatter build is a build whose damage mainly comes from shattering your illusions constantly to maximize dmg or other shatter effects. So as the fellow above mentioned, go for anything that boosts your illusion production, improves shattering effects and generally gives boons or conditions "when you shatter your illusions".

You can experiment with some builds in the Mists the see how they work in action (PvP or PvE).

Supposedly, shatter builds give the biggest numbers as far as dmg is concerned but keep in mind that most times it's not numbers that win a battle ;)

Play around with your build and post the results here if u like. It's always good to see new ideas and strategies coming up!

Edited by Gen1tor, 07 February 2013 - 07:30 AM.


#4 Thaddeuz

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:33 PM

''Shatter Build'' is not one build, its more a family of build. These build focus either on Mind Crack (Direct Damage) or Cry of Frustration (Condition Damage). The goal is to create as much illusions as possible, and shatter as fast as possible. One of the best illusions production skills is the trait Deceptive Illusions in the Duelist Trait line. You usually also want a good number of point in Illusions so the cooldown on your Shatter Skills are low.

For the weapons choice, you usually base it on high burst dps phantasm like the Focus' Warden or the Greatsword's Berserker's. This phantasm usually do high burst dps and die really fast after (since they are in close to melee range), so you let them do they burst and shatter them immediately to use them before they die. This is the opposite of a Phantasm Build that use Phantasm with sustain DPS and higher survivability like the Pistol's Duelist or the Staff's Warlock.

#5 My Sweet Lily

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 07:58 PM

The usual base for Shatter build is 20/20/0/0/30.

20 in Domination gives your Mind Wrack 20% more dmg  and 25 stacks of Vulnerability when you use F3.
20 in Dueling gives you the trait that is essential for Shatter build:Deceptive Evasion. Keep dodging to make clones to shatter. Also CD reduction for Sword skills. Sword is the weapon you will be using 9/10 of the time.
30 in Illusions you will get the power for your Mind Wrack. You know when you have more clones out, the dmg of MW goes up? With Illusionary Persona you count as a clone and MWs dmg will go up, as there will be 4x shatter, instead of just 3. Also, when you shatter, you will get Might. When you use any shatter, you will inflict Confusion --> Cry of Frusturation will cause 8 stacks of Confusion. Also MW has 10% more crit chance. Also shatter recharge 30% faster.

You should always start the fight from range with GS, make 3 clones and when you're in melee range hit F3=25 stacks of Vuln and you get 3 stacks of Might. This will boost your dmg by 28%. Next change to sword and make another 3 illusions and use Blurred Frenzy, then hit F1. You will deal ~5k dmg with BF and 4x~2,5k with MW=~15k dmg burst (+the dmg your phantasm hits).

For off-hand, I strongly suggest a Sword. The Sword CD trait affects off-hand Sword too. iSwordsman is godly. Hits hard, is almost at melee range, but still at safe zone and it evades attacks when leaping.

Hope this helps :).




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