36 replies to this topic

[4arsie4]

For high value items, you should really be looking at the buy offers, rather than the (fail to) sell offers.

[Nyrath]

There is a way to avoid TP, so far I remember:

• Send by in-game mail cash to guy who has item you wish to buy
  
• Guy sends you item via in-game mail

I wouldn't use this on serious bussiness anyway, for example selling precursors, because player can just not send you the item after he gets  his cash and I highly doubt that ANet would give you any refund since you tried to avoid taxes and auction fees.

It would be nice with special place in LA, preferably another area with entrance in LA, called for example "Trading Market" would be added. People would be able to trade only in Trading Markets, and Trading Market would have independent chat to avoid spamming LA's map chat. Don't think it is ever going to happen.

ben911993, on 08 February 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

This. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I believe all of the small gold sink systems in the game are just there to push us slowly towards the gem store. Waypoint fees, armor repairs, trading post listing fees, dyes being character bound instead of account, all of the high quality (and thus expensive) gear and equipment being soulbound, etc. It's all just to drain our gold and push us to use the gem store. Which I guess is just the business model for GW2, and how ANet will sustain the game.

I don't agree with you at most points (WPs, repairs, dyes and soulbounds and so on), but I think its one of the reasons why there is no simple player-to-player trading. I know some guildies who bought gems and traded them for gold to have enought cash to be able to sell precursors. I've heard even about people buying gems and converitng them to gold to buy legendaries by TP.

Edited by Nyrath, 12 February 2013 - 02:36 PM.

[Trei]

Nabuko Darayon, on 08 February 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

But there's no trading option in Trading Post, just selling/auctioning option. You can't trade your item for something else. They should've just named it Auction house and not Trading post

What do you mean "auction"?

Could you explain to me how you could auction your items in the Trading Post?

[Al Shamari]

Trei, on 12 February 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

What do you mean "auction"?

Could you explain to me how you could auction your items in the Trading Post?

Trei, on 12 February 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

What do you mean "auction"?

Could you explain to me how you could auction your items in the Trading Post?

Well, although it technically isn't an item by item "auction" style. Players are indeed competing for the buying and selling prices with other players. You're going to attempt to have the highest buyer price so that an item gets slotted for your request, etc.

Edited by Al Shamari, 12 February 2013 - 02:54 PM.

[FoxBat]

Saying "gold sinks are there to push us to the gem store!" is kind of ridiculous. Drop the 15% TP fee and watch all items instantly jump in price (i.e., basically where they were before.) Sinks are there to control inflation, inflation is to be controlled so new players aren't shut out of the economy and forced to, say, buy gems to break into it.

On the other hand, yes the idea is that you can spend real money to indirectly get market items, it's not a conspiracy. A stated purpose of gold-gem trade is to reduce the incentive to turn to 3rd party RMTs, who could just as easily be selling items or alternative currency (like say, etco) as they are gold. Having a functional gold currency and gating items through the TP is a way Anet can manage that. Otherwise they'd have to allow players to trade gems directly for items (you think their scam concerns are whimpy now? Wait till irate costumers lose gems they just forked over cash for in exchange for a dud item.)

Edited by FoxBat, 12 February 2013 - 03:19 PM.

[Trei]

Al Shamari, on 12 February 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

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Well, although it technically isn't an item by item "auction" style. Players are indeed competing for the buying and selling prices with other players. You're going to attempt to have the highest buyer price so that an item gets slotted for your request, etc.

Hmm.. good point.
Seems I was wrong about that this whole time.

Still, auctions are just one form of trading.
There are more than auctions in the Trading Post, hence the name.

[Gunuin]

EVE online has both a better developed "Trading Post", er.. market, and a contract item for cash or item to item player trading system.  you can have both.

The contract system in EVE though is ripe with scams, and I think the makers of EVE kind of like it that way.  There are certain items though that EVE restricts from their open market and you have to use the contract "trading" person to person system.

EDIT: Not real sure why I even posted this, I guess to say that they can both exist together and that yes, person to person direct trading leads to a lot more scams.

Edited by Gunuin, 01 March 2013 - 07:52 AM.