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[Thorfinnr]

MMORPG.com has had the pleasure of interviewing the famed Colin Johanson on the next major update players will see later this month. Colin spills the beans on guild missions, and even gives a small preview of what to expect from the new daily achievement system. You can read through the highlights below, then be sure to check out the full interview here.

Much like your favorite TV show, we hope as we expand the scope of living stories as the year goes on, you won’t want to miss each new release to see where the storyline or your favorite characters are headed.

PvP
New PvP map Spirit Watch shares a common theme with the Flame and Frost living story.
Designed to add Capture the Flag element to PvP gameplay.
Two-team PvP matches players up by rank.

Guild Missions
Once activated by a specific guild, any player can participate.
Certain goals must be completed by the guild. Non-members able to help with secondary objectives.
Guilds gain notoriety to stand out and become widely recognized.
Identified by a guild banner.
Rewards both the guild and the individual; include reduced waypoint fee, guild banner tonic.

Daily Achievements
More daily objectives; pick and choose the most desirable. Completing every daily objective grants additional achievement points.
New daily achievements can direct players to certain zones.
Daily achievement variety will see a large increase over time.

Misc
ArenaNet never sleeps.

[Azure Skye]

Wait! Cheaper waypoints cost with your guild bonuses and your entire guild too. o.o

Edited by Azure Skye, 14 February 2013 - 05:19 PM.

[Eon Lilu]

Some really good stuff in that interview. Wish they would do more video's with this stuff.

Guild Missions seems interesting and could be good in devoleping tyria. A little worried for smaller guilds being swallowed up now by the giant guilds but should still be interesting.

Expanding daily's should make them alot more fun and tailored to the individual.

As always its all in the implementation and not in words that makes it good or not, if the implementation of the new systems of gameplay sucks then it will not be good for the game at all.

Here's hoping they get it right first time .

Edited by Eon Lilu, 14 February 2013 - 05:18 PM.

[astromarmot]

Sounds rather promising...looking forward to it...

[Azure Skye]

[quote name='Eon Lilu' timestamp='1360861793' post='2164053']
Some really good stuff in that interview. Wish they would do more video's with this stuff.

Guild Missions seems interesting and could be good in devoleping tyria. A little worried for smaller guilds being swallowed up now by the giant guilds but should still be interesting.

Expanding daily's should make them alot more fun and tailored to the individual.

As always its all in the implementation and not in words that makes it good or not, if the implementation of the new systems of gameplay sucks then it will not be good for the game at all.

Here's hoping they get it right first time .
[/quote]What about the people that don't want to be any guilds?

[Ritualist]

[quote]For example, you can purchase cheaper waypoint costs for your entire guild while the bonus is active.[/quote]
That reminds me of the 3-hero limit in GW1. Sure, having 3 heroes in your party was better than being forced to run hench, but a full hero party was just better.
The same way, a waypoint discount is good, but simply removing the fee completely is better.


As noted before, I like the idea of allowing players to choose their daily, but I seriously hope that they take a second glance at the slightly more "core" achievements - the current selection of dailies already includes a few that simply can not be considered as ones that everyone could complete. So I seriously hope we get a few additional VERY generic ones on top of the more time/location specific ones.

[S00per Dave]

Like Eon said, I hope the Guild missions don't cater to the huge guilds that have more players than the smaller ones.  They say its a recruiting mechanism which is nice, but I fear the smaller guilds will be drowned out by the bigger ones.

My fingers are crossed.

[Lordkrall]

Some interesting info!
Can't wait to see these new dailies and GMs in action.

[AsgarZigel]

[quote name="Azure Skye"][color=#282828][font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(229, 236, 238)]What about the people that don't want to be any guilds? [/background][/size][/font][/color] [/quote]

He said that the guild missions are started by a guild (probably costs influence), but everyone can participate in some form and get a reward from it. They're basically guild-triggered events or event chains how I understand it.

I'm with Eon there, sounds good but depends on the implementation.

[MisterB]

The chance to select among a list of dailies cannot come fast enough for me. The current halfway system is annoying.[quote name='Azure Skye' timestamp='1360862751' post='2164059']
What about the people that don't want to be any guilds?
[/quote]Players without a guild are throwing away free stuff (influence rewards). That's of course their choice.

Edited by MisterB, 14 February 2013 - 06:54 PM.

[astromarmot]

For a game named Guild Wars 2, it's nice to see something that actually promotes more reason to work with a guild...

[Saul Spotter]

Do you think Colin mentioned [i]Steam [/i]specifically to point at the Steam Monsters in the Shiverpeaks as being behind these events?

Edited by Saul Spotter, 14 February 2013 - 09:39 PM.

[Eon Lilu]

[quote name='Azure Skye' timestamp='1360862751' post='2164059']
What about the people that don't want to be any guilds?
[/quote]

Yeah can't really say until the update comes out but from what we know so far people who don't want to be in guilds are probably out of luck when it comes to the new "guild missions" rewards, as they said they will get some kind of reward for participation and there will be personal rewards but those not even in a guild will probably not be able to get the higher or guild specific rewards from this type of guild mission system.

It does seem lately Arena Net is pushing out pugs and single players to push them towards more organised groups and organised gameplay or guilds, they don't seem to want pugs and solo players running the higher end content 24/7 anymore. That's just me guessing from observations of what they changed lately in the game.

What it does show me though is Anet is trying to address the lack of guild functions and social mechanics in GW2 which could mean, I really am speculating now , that we may see just possibly, guild halls soon? Or something similar? Hint hint nudge nudge wink wink

[NotKMoose]

Seems like a push in the right direction.

[Doctor Overlord]

Thanks for the link, that was an interesting interview.

[Alex Dimitri]

If you do 5 things you get reward, but if you do 9 you get bonus reward.....please, please, please 2 laurel`s !!!!

Common Colin say 2 Laurel`s !!!!

[cyclopsje]

[quote name='Protoss' timestamp='1360862889' post='2164061']


As noted before, I like the idea of allowing players to choose their daily, but I seriously hope that they take a second glance at the slightly more "core" achievements - the current selection of dailies already includes a few that simply can not be considered as ones that everyone could complete. So I seriously hope we get a few additional VERY generic ones on top of the more time/location specific ones.
[/quote]

I cant remeber seing a daily that wasnt good for all levels. Mayby i missed 1 can you tell me like what 1 you cant do at all levels.

[Kymeric]

[quote name='Alex Dimitri' timestamp='1360888631' post='2164233']
If you do 5 things you get reward, but if you do 9 you get bonus reward.....please, please, please 2 laurel`s !!!!

Common Colin say 2 Laurel`s !!!!
[/quote]

Looks to me like he's being careful to say that it's not going to be a bonus reward.  If you include something like another laurel, you're making it hard not to do the entire thing, and the whole point of having a choice of items on the list is greatly diminished.  He says achievement points for just that reason.  Do 5/9, get a reward, do 9/9 and get achievement points.

Like the HoM.  Goodies up to a point, after that it's bragging rights.

[tjb490]

Still can't queue with a friend in PVP, this patch is stupid.

[Arewn]

[quote name='tjb490' timestamp='1360892193' post='2164251']
Still can't queue with a friend in PVP, this patch is stupid.
[/quote]
Go into a party with your friend.
Have one of you join a PVP match that isn't full.
Have the other right click their portrait and click the option to join them in PVP.

[ilr]

[quote name='Protoss' timestamp='1360862889' post='2164061']
That reminds me of the 3-hero limit in GW1. Sure, having 3 heroes in your party was better than being forced to run hench, but a full hero party was just better.
The same way, a waypoint discount is good, but simply removing the fee completely is better.[/quote]
Wow that's quite the Nonsequitur

...and that's without even considering the inflation rate which is just as bad as our REAL economy...

[FoxBat]

ilr, on 15 February 2013 - 03:12 AM, said:

...and that's without even considering the inflation rate which is just as bad as our REAL economy...

Ectos are already 40s now. And now we have a gold find amulet and gold sink reductions incoming. I really don't know what Anet is doing... aside from making everything you do at sub-80 even more worthless.

Edited by FoxBat, 15 February 2013 - 05:49 AM.

[Craywulf]

FoxBat, on 15 February 2013 - 05:49 AM, said:

Ectos are already 40s now. And now we have a gold find amulet and gold sink reductions incoming. I really don't know what Anet is doing... aside from making everything you do at sub-80 even more worthless.

Well if you want a game with leveling, then that's price of having such ridiculous mechanic. It's natural for everything to depreciate in value when you inch closer to the peak (level 80). Only way to fix this is to get rid of the leveling mechanic and obviously that's never going happen. So my advice...just figure out way to come to terms with the way it is.

[Obscure One]

These improvements are looking promising, I may start logging in more regularly once the WvW improvements roll out. The interesting dynamic of the whole thing is folks who stopped playing don't have to make a financial decision of subscribing to come back and play.

The focus on the end-game portions of the game seem to be coming into their own, but I fear the journey up to the end-game is weakening. Why complete my dailies on a low level alt when the rewards are better when I complete it with one of my 80's? Daily/Monthly rewards should be flat across the board irregardless of level. Perhaps removing the level relative exp and gold payouts and implementing consumables that give exp and gold relative to level would be more prudent, allowing the player to cash in these consumables for a bigger pay out on higher level characters if they so choose.

Additionally crafting is less and less emphasized and is more of a mini-game than a viable means of obtaining gear...how about making it so a given craft can IMPROVE lower level gear into higher level gear of the same rarity? This would boost TP values/demand of all existing items simply because a crafter can buy them, improve them with relative materials, and resell them as max level items. Adding the ability to craft ascended tier gear would also be a boon to the system making the tier more accessible to casual players.

At any rate, I hope ANet keeps stoking those embers; I can see smoke, but I'm waiting to see fire.

[Cures]

Protoss, on 14 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

... the current selection of dailies already includes a few that simply can not be considered as ones that everyone could complete. So I seriously hope we get a few additional VERY generic ones on top of the more time/location specific ones.

erm .. which ones would that be?

tjb490, on 15 February 2013 - 01:36 AM, said:

Still can't queue with a friend in PVP, this patch is stupid.

wrong - you just dont know how

[Coren]

Two words: Guild Missions.... Oh boy

[Ritualist]

cyclopsje, on 15 February 2013 - 12:47 AM, said:

I cant remeber seing a daily that wasnt good for all levels. Mayby i missed 1 can you tell me like what 1 you cant do at all levels.

http://www.guildwars...vements-change/
As I said there, some areas simply do not have the DEs, vets, corpses, ... to allow players to complete the daily content. It's one thing to jump around the whole map, hunting down those activities - but if you are in an area and exploring it, doing hearts, POIs, ...then, sometimes because of the actual design OR simply because we are dealing with dynamic content, it's basically impossible to complete the daily.

ilr, on 15 February 2013 - 03:12 AM, said:

Wow that's quite the Nonsequitur

...and that's without even considering the inflation rate which is just as bad as our REAL economy...

I know of folks that quit the game because of the waypoint fee. Why play a game that punishes you for exploring its fantastic world?
Clearly, this isn't a call to remove all gold sinks. But it is a call to think twice about about what one will tax.

[Lordkrall]

Protoss, on 15 February 2013 - 09:09 AM, said:

http://www.guildwars...vements-change/
As I said there, some areas simply do not have the DEs, vets, corpses, ... to allow players to complete the daily content. It's one thing to jump around the whole map, hunting down those activities - but if you are in an area and exploring it, doing hearts, POIs, ...then, sometimes because of the actual design OR simply because we are dealing with dynamic content, it's basically impossible to complete the daily.

BS, there are only 3 maps in the whole game where it is impossible to complete all dailies, those are on Orr, and if you have access to those you have access to other maps as well and can go back there to finish the one that can't be finished on Orr.

[kerseperse]

Protoss, on 15 February 2013 - 09:09 AM, said:

I know of folks that quit the game because of the waypoint fee.

Must be something wrong with them folks thats just sad.
How is taking waypoints exploring?

[Eon Lilu]

Protoss, on 15 February 2013 - 09:09 AM, said:

I know of folks that quit the game because of the waypoint fee. Why play a game that punishes you for exploring its fantastic world?
Clearly, this isn't a call to remove all gold sinks. But it is a call to think twice about about what one will tax.

I hope they re think the trading post taxes and listing fee's to be less harsh. It sucks for seller's big time....im not talking about market manipulators or trading post campers, just normal players get screwed everytime they put something up for sale that can always have a high chance of being undercut for 1 copper...forcing them to wait weeks for something to sell or re list and pay up fee's again....

As a buyer the market is awesome, with no fee's to put up buy orders, since 1 copper undercutting and low demand has pushed almost everything not end game to be worthless....it mainly sucks for sellers and buyers who are after the higher end materials and items. You lose a ton of gold with the way the trading post is currently. Again im not talking about "playing the trading post".

Edited by Eon Lilu, 15 February 2013 - 10:36 AM.