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#1 Kinjaz


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:57 PM

Hey guys
So since the release i've only played pvp component of the game.
All my characters are level 2 in pve i know its sad that i haven't touched anything in pve aspect.

Here is the question;
If i were to start playing pve and wve specifically, would i have a hard time playing against people who have already reached level 80.

Pvp is pretty fair in terms of gears and skills but how is it for wvw?

Can a level2 character survive in wvw?
Sorry for a noob question, i just have 0 knowledge when it comes to pve.


#2 ElizaScarlet756


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 11:29 PM

Level 2 characters will have level 2 gear. You're just upscaled to level 80.
You probably can survive in a group or if you're dodging and running skills are boss :P

#3 Khrushchev


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 11:47 PM

You can survive, you will in nearly no means be useful. You will also be a prime target for being killed, since you get the green up arrow that says "Kill me". An uplevelled level 2 character also won't do very much damage, or have very good defenses.

What I'm trying to say is, if you plan on being an effective WvWer, you'll likely want to play PvE, or be prepared to have a long trek to 80 killing Dolyaks and assisting others taking things.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 06:11 AM

You can make dyes using your excess glory and then sell them. With a little luck, you'll get a few good dyes and make enough gold to level from 2-80 with crafting.

#5 Sulking


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:37 AM

As a level two you probably won't be doing enough damage to be very useful. I'd suggest you atleast get to I'd say 30 before you can see some difference, but again, nothing compared to an 80.

Give the PvE part of the game a go though. It really is quite nice your first time around. If you wanna rush to 80 it can be a real grind but if you make an attempt to enjoy it you'll be surprised :D

And your skills as an sPvPer will be a great asset to ANY guild. So get your butt to 80, son!

#6 Tarkus


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 11:26 PM

View PostKinjaz, on 15 February 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

Here is the question;
If i were to start playing pve and wve specifically, would i have a hard time playing against people who have already reached level 80.

Can a level2 character survive in wvw?
Sorry for a noob question, i just have 0 knowledge when it comes to pve.

You'll find that there is a pretty significant stat difference between an uplevelled player and a level 80, but I still maintain that any player that is pretty decent at PvP can manage with the handicap. For example I was able to smash 2 fully geared thieves with a level 45 guardian due to retaliation and area of denial, and don't forget that you will still be able to CC like the best of them, be able to construct seige and contribute via AoE buffs etc. Well yeah you will be pretty much bait until you hit 80, because most fairly decent players go through this priority list when attacking players in WvW; Lowbees > Signet thieves > Rangers > .... > *ing guardians.

An idea of the stat difference is a Max level GS warrior and one that is a geared to the max lvl 45:

Attack power is ~2500 for the low level, and for the 80 its ~ 3450 (This is w/ GS, food and consumable buffs that are pretty much needed to survive at the current meta)

Needless to say, you'll find the skill cap of a lot of the players pretty low (this isn't a knock, but there are a lot of 5 signet GS warriors out there) and once you get geared and 80 you should absolutely smash face. See you soon, and I hope you stick around.

Edited by Tarkus, 16 February 2013 - 11:27 PM.

#7 Vihar


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:35 AM

I levelled 3 characters to 80 in WvW.

   You just have to accept that you will be a bit underpowered, but you can still contribute.

   As a bonus, you'll have loads of karma to get gear with when you hit 80.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:34 AM

As someone from sPvP, you will have upscaled stats at first, which put you at a significant disadvantage in a straight up fight against a geared 80. If you were running with a fairly large force though, that discrepancy won't be as apparent, and you can still contribute a fair bit to the team. After about level 40, you wont be a complete liability, but you will still be a fair bit weaker.

Once you hit 80 though, you'll find the skills from sPvP are amazing for small skirmishes if you were to flip camps or try to sneak towers without putting up swords, as the average WvW player you meet out there will not be able to keep up with you in a fight. Bring a few friends who play sPvP as well for even more fun!

#9 Yski


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:02 AM

Yes, you will be a lot weaker stat wise, but being a sPvP player you'll probably more than make up for it when it comes to skill. Stick to groups at low levels, but one you're past level 30 most level 80s shouldn't be much of a problem in 1v1.

#10 Craywulf


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:10 AM

It's doable, you just have be very mobile so you can retreat...often. Leveling up in WvW is all about doing events and best way to do that is with a party, guild or even a zerg. You're not going stay level 2 very long, I think if you join party, you're going be level 10 in less than a day. so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

#11 SmoothHussler


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:54 AM

Have done it and it was not fun.  I was (am) new to WvW and MMOs in general.  The gear makes so much difference.  If you're zerging you can pick off straglers with your pals for sure, and help your guild with boons etc but 1 on 1 you're in for some hurt.

Of course much of it depends on your skill for sure (I'm just meh...) but you'd still be starting with a severe disadvatage.

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