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[Lethorio]

The daily reset two hours ago, and I just finished it and picked up my shiny new ascended amulet. I went to the Mystic Forge, to test if it could be used as an ingredient, and it appears that you cannot.

I'd assume from this that ascended amulets cannot be infused.

[LoopySnoopy]

Best way to explain this is that all Laurel Ascended items have a built in +5 agony forgot to make it clear you need 5 more Laurels 1st for the infusion I believe and that's where the in-built agony is

Source: http://wiki.guildwar...m/wiki/Infusion

Edited by LoopySnoopy, 16 February 2013 - 02:09 AM.

[Red Omen]

What? No, Lethorio's referring to the process whereby you put an Ascended item into the Mystic Forge in order to infuse it with 5 points of permanent Agony Resistance and open up its infusion slot. This is different from taking the upgrade component called an "infusion" and applying it to an empty slot.

Notice also that the infusions (upgrade components) available for 5 laurels provide no AR and only 4 stat points instead of 5.

[dukefx]

I'm 2 laurels away from getting mine and haven't missed a single daily.

[Taskumatti]

dukefx, on 16 February 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

I'm 2 laurels away from getting mine and haven't missed a single daily.

That means you've missed something.

[dukefx]

I can imagine 1 daily being done before the patch but what about the second?

[gamblers_luck]

I believe amulets will be infusable in the future (26th, maybe).

[Eon Lilu]

Oh wow you can not even infuse them? If they do allow it eventually will probably be 250 more ecto's everyone is going to need....

Ascended items seems so much like an unfinished after thought so far, lack of stats and now these amulets that can not be infused and are not available through fractals, only doing repetitive generic dailys and monthly's..

I really hope Anet start rolling out some major overhaul changes soon.

Edited by Eon Lilu, 16 February 2013 - 12:33 PM.

[LoopySnoopy]

My bad lack of sleep n all lol but the Laurel infusions do have a built in AR. But yes, you cant go super with them atm

[Tien]

Red Omen, on 16 February 2013 - 09:47 AM, said:

What? No, Lethorio's referring to the process whereby you put an Ascended item into the Mystic Forge in order to infuse it with 5 points of permanent Agony Resistance and open up its infusion slot.

Pardon my ignorance, but does this mean that one Ascended item can have +10 Agony resistance?

[Bakelith]

Anet said that you could only infuse Fractal related stuff, Amulet are not tied to Fractal so you can only use the +5 AR slot, no +10 AR for amulet.

[Reason on Cooldown]

Eon Lilu, on 16 February 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

Ascended items seems so much like an unfinished after thought so far, lack of stats and now these amulets that can not be infused and are not available through fractals, only doing repetitive generic dailys and monthly's..

I will agree on the stats issue.  I'm trying to replace two Knights and one Zerker piece, but there is no Ascended Knights gear, there are no pieces that prioritize Precision, and the only ones that pair Toughness and Precision have Condition Damage (which I don't need).  So one of the stats I'm trying to prioritize (Toughess, Power, Precision) is probably going to take a big hit.

I don't have a problem with the amulets only being available from the Laurel vendor.  People complained that Ascended items were ONLY available through fractals, and now ANet has offered another means with laurels.  They're releasing the Ascended gear slowly.  And assuming they eventually add Ascended armor and weapons, they've barely started.

There isn't any content that REQUIRES Ascended gear, so I personally feel I can give ANet the time to fully roll out their plan for Ascended gear.  I don't need it all right now.  The exception being agony resistance for fractals, which can be acquired by running fractals. So it's kind of a self-solving problem.

[Killacam]

dukefx, on 16 February 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

I'm 2 laurels away from getting mine and haven't missed a single daily.

Not sure but all of us that did them each day got ours last night, so you missed the first one and at some point forgot to do another i guess.

[Andemius]

I'm very confused. I have 27 laurels, and as far as I know, I may have only missed 1 daily. How on earth have you got enough for an amulet?

[Kor]

Jan. 28th, 29th, 30th, 31, Feb 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 plus monthly(10) is 29.  Unless you were on when the update went live and got the daily for the 27th before it rolled over into the 28th(30), you have to wait until the 16th to get your amulet.

Waking up and answering math questions can be a bad time.  Someone can check please?

[Khrushchev]

Tien, on 16 February 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

Pardon my ignorance, but does this mean that one Ascended item can have +10 Agony resistance?

Ascended Rings and Backpieces can be infused to have an inherent 5 agony resistance, and then can be given the agony resistance slot item, giving it a total of 10 AR. Amulets have no apparent way to get the inherent 5 AR.

[Red Omen]

Bakelith, on 16 February 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

Anet said that you could only infuse Fractal related stuff, Amulet are not tied to Fractal so you can only use the +5 AR slot, no +10 AR for amulet.

If the recipe to infuse an amulet requires some amount of Coagulated Mists Essence, as they all do, then doing Fractals is still required to get AR. It's just a matter of implementing the recipe at the Mystic Forge. This may take time, but it's still plausible.

[Specialz]

So what some of you are saying is that the amulet is Regular PvE only while backs and rings (not laurel versions) are for fractures, am I correct?

[Lordkrall]

Specialz, on 18 February 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

So what some of you are saying is that the amulet is Regular PvE only while backs and rings (not laurel versions) are for fractures, am I correct?

That is what it is currently looks like yes.
The Infusions you can get for Laurels are also completely worthless for Fractals as well, seeing as they don't have Agony Resistance.

[G L J]

Specialz, on 18 February 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

So what some of you are saying is that the amulet is Regular PvE only while backs and rings (not laurel versions) are for fractures, am I correct?

The basic gist is the following:

• Ascended backs and rings originally come from Fractals of the Mists
  
• Ascended amulets come from laurels
  
• All ascended items can have a basic versatile infusion applied to them, this infusion gives +5 agony resistance
  
• Ascended backs and rings have a recipe that allows for an intrinsic +5 agony resistance to be applied to the object, allowing for a max of 10 agony resistance per item
  
• Ascended amulets do not have the above recipe, allowing for a max of 5 agony resistance per item

While the lack of an intrinsic infusion recipe is probably an oversight, the fact is that ascended amulets can only contain 5 agony resistance. For all of us OCD fractal completionists used to having 10 agony resistance per item, this is really serious business

Edited by G L J, 18 February 2013 - 06:07 PM.

[Thaddeuz]

Like GLJ said, you can get +10 AR on both of your ascended rings and your ascended back item. For your amulet you can only have +5 AR since you cannot ''Infuse'' it. You can put an infusion and not ''infuse'' it (in the mystic forge). This give you a maximum of +35 AR. I think the amulet cannot be infuse for a purpose. Anet don't want people to have +40 AR for now. WIth 40 AR you can do level 40 to 48 without any trick and you should be able to do level 50 to 58. Maybe Anet don't want people to be able to do these level the normal way for now, but i bet you will be able to infuse amulet in the next path.

[GnomGnomGnom]

If you look at gw2db, you will notice that the infused amulets ARE in the game. However, hey are greyed out and not an option to be put into the mystic forge. This, to me, indicates that they will add the recipe at some point in the future. I recall a devpost addressing such but someone else would need to find it.

If anyone is intending to stick an expensive infusion into it, it is best to wait until they update it.