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#1 davadude

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:38 PM

Arenanet's Chris Whiteside appeared on IGN's up at noon webshow to discuss Guild Wars 2, the launch, the current state of it, and the goals for the future.  You can check it out on their official website.

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#2 Baldur The Bold

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:42 PM

Not really any new information really. Wasted 15 min of my life :(

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:58 PM

auugh a video.. can we get a summary of any sort of information said in the webshow? thanks.

View PostBaldur The Bold, on 18 February 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

Not really any new information really. Wasted 15 min of my life :(

I dont want to end up like the above poster ^

Edited by I'm Squirrel, 18 February 2013 - 09:00 PM.


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:18 PM

What a waste of time.

I don't main Ranger or Necro, but to compare complaints about pet AI to complaints about not being able to dual-wield greatswords is outright ridiculous. Pet AI is very very bad and anyone complaining about it is helping the game. Whiteside shot it down like it was nothing.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:32 PM

View PostBaldur The Bold, on 18 February 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

Not really any new information really. Wasted 15 min of my life :(

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I agree, its nothing new to the veterans of GW2 but its something new to the ones that are thinking about buying GW2.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:42 PM

View PostNuclearDonut, on 18 February 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

What a waste of time.

I don't main Ranger or Necro, but to compare complaints about pet AI to complaints about not being able to dual-wield greatswords is outright ridiculous. Pet AI is very very bad and anyone complaining about it is helping the game. Whiteside shot it down like it was nothing.

So much this. I'm amazed at how much people can talk, yet manage to say absolutely nothing.

(And with a ranger main, I'm pretty pissed. To suggest that fixing pet AI was--paraphrasing--wanting the class to be OP was mildly appalling.)

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:49 PM

Why are we always getting the Over-Arching vision run-down from this guy instead of from Eric Flannum like we did BEFORE beta?   His LinkedIn still claims he works there but you wouldn't know it from the way all this stuff has been playing out.   I reassert my original theory about what happened at launch:

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:59 PM

Stopped watching after a few minutes. Neither of them should be in a video, what a horror to watch.

I would ask for a transcript, but from what the rest of you are saying it wouldn't be worth anyones time.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:15 AM

Wow the host is insufferable xD
Couldn't watch it. But it's IGN, I doubt I'll miss anything.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:47 AM

I didn't mind the host but I also thought the whole thing was pretty pointless. I echo the sentiments about the ranger pet comments (disclaimer I am a ranger "main" - but with five level 80s that doesn't mean much) especially with the comparisons to warriors wanting to dual wield great swords or any other class hoping for some kind of generic change. Ranger pets have never been considered to be where they should be - and we are talking about the core class mechanic. It's discouraging to hear a developer with that kind of attitude, it gives me an incredibly cynical perspective on where the game and class balance stands now and how little transparency we truly have, which leads to so much false hope and unrealistic expectations. I bet if many of us truly knew what little was in store for the ranger's future, we'd drop the class today. Given how little of an idea he has of what's in store for the game's future (lots of talk of wanting to evolve the world and tell a story that responds to players - ironically followed by saying players want things they shouldn't have when it comes to class balance, but no details on how, what or when they plan to implement any of it) I bet a lot of people would drop the game today if they knew how underwhelming the future would be in contrast to these grand ideas they keep marketing.


Most of the interview was just PR spin of what we already know, the rest of it was Whiteside dodging the possibility of giving any meaningful information. I'm happy for the IGN guy who got the interview for his show, but maybe ArenaNet shouldn't send developers to do these things if they aren't going to allow them to say anything or giving any answers of value. I'm sure it's tempting for them to cash in on the increased coverage and free exposure to talk about.

I wish they'd stop giving us PR and marketing spin and start giving us solid changes which make fundamental improvements to systems and features that are curently disappointing. We keep running into trouble when ArenaNet does a bunch of annoying talking about ideas and design goals followed by a reality which is barely recognisable to what we envisioned when we were sold on it. I'd like more real change and real details, I don't care about what they thought it would be or what they wanted it to be, I want to know what it will be. Anything else is a waste of time and setting people up for disappointment.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

Not sure what you guys are on about but pets in PvP are freaking annoying. Beastmaster specs? Freaking annoying. Dog pets? Freaking annoying!! Cats? Freaking ANNOYING!!!!

And watch this video to become a "beast" at using your pet.

Edited by Dirame, 19 February 2013 - 01:28 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:02 PM

one of the worst interviews I saw

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:01 PM

I'm not generally one to hate on the generic interviews, because exposure is exposure, but this one sucked.  The host was terrible, and Chris' handling of the pet AI question was laughable.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:39 PM

I am disappoint.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:45 AM

Quote

Host:"Mind if I gobble your balls, sir?"
Chris:"Right after I go full damage-control mode."

As I expected: No structure.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:53 AM

Two general impressions stuck out about this interview to me:

1) The host was awful, tried too hard to laugh (you can HEAR him pushing it out) and wasn't funny.

2) Maybe I'm spoiled by Jon Stewart, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure his (the host's) was the only mug of water.  Terrible host.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:07 AM

I normally don't chime in on the hate, but holy shit was that interviewer, if you can even call that annoying prick such a thing, was absolutely horrific and this video really puts a damper on IGN. They've been going down hill in the standards department but that was post Cops/Cheaters G4 bad. To those even remotely curious about watching DONT. Sad to say that the above posters are not exaggerating this time. Utter waste of time. So bad Anet and IGN should issue an apology lol

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:10 AM

This is what happens when nerds aren't shy. It's painful.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:26 AM

View PostAKGeo, on 20 February 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

This is what happens when nerds aren't shy. It's painful.

Some "nerds" are the most extroverted, charismatic, well spoken people I know, and that's among a cross section of all kinds of people that I interact with regularly.

Forget his appearance: in his role as a host, he sucked.  Tried too hard to emanate... whatever famous host he might be trying to emanate, and just killed the interview, and I'm NOT picky about these things, he was just horrible, and whoever is responsible for putting him in front of the camera made the dead wrong call in doing so.

Like Chronos12360 above, I don't usually post such things, but this guy just stuck out like a sore thumb.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:39 AM

View PostOmedon, on 20 February 2013 - 02:26 AM, said:

Some "nerds" are the most extroverted, charismatic, well spoken people I know, and that's among a cross section of all kinds of people that I interact with regularly.

Forget his appearance: in his role as a host, he sucked.  Tried too hard to emanate... whatever famous host he might be trying to emanate, and just killed the interview, and I'm NOT picky about these things, he was just horrible, and whoever is responsible for putting him in front of the camera made the dead wrong call in doing so.

Like Chronos12360 above, I don't usually post such things, but this guy just stuck out like a sore thumb.

Don't get all upset because I insulted nerds. And it's always painful regardless of venue. It's not just his appearance, it's his demeanor. Someone with a honking laugh and obvious lack of physical self-control doesn't need to be hosting any sort of show.

Edited by AKGeo, 20 February 2013 - 02:40 AM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:16 AM

I'm 2 minutes in and I want to die. Oh boy this is so bad it's good material.

EDIT: Oh man that 'sexting" joke..so awkward.

Edited by Lol Lol Lol Guy, 20 February 2013 - 03:17 AM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:58 AM

"You know" x 3784598327984723

If not for this it would be 2 times shorter

edit: oh yeah and it was VERY bad and unprofessional. Turned it off midway.

Edited by Killyox, 20 February 2013 - 09:59 AM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:01 AM

i click the link and saw Kekai's new concept art for bungie O.o .....

then i look for the actual interview, pretty much dislike the host so i stop watching and gone back to looking for more of Kekai's Destiny's concept art.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:03 PM

This was less an interview and more a guy deliberately being vague, broad and pretentious because he's under a non-disclosure of a lot of things while some runt of a man thinks "I DID IT! I'M FINALLY ON CAMERA!" and gets over-excited like a pup on Christmas.

ArenaNet. Do it right or not at all. Don't even send your men out to the spotlight if nothing is resolved or answered. I'd rather you posted a 3 second video of him saying "No comment." At least that would have saved me the other 14 minutes 57 seconds of him saying, in broader terms, the exact same thing.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:32 PM

JESUS *ING CHRIST

"you guys dont have the traditional mmo set up" YES THEY *ING DO
"theres no real like go out and do this this this and find these people and collect these many pies" YES THERE IS AND LOTS OF IT TOO
"you go off and then you run into other players doing the same thing" LIKE I DONT KNOW MAYBE A *ING MMO

* i can't finish this. God damn.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:07 PM

Based especially on Jam's reaction to watching this video, I think I should thank God I didn't watch it so far. But lol at your reaction, Jam. :) More comments, pls!

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:19 PM

View Postpumpkin pie, on 20 February 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

i click the link and saw Kekai's new concept art for bungie O.o .....

then i look for the actual interview, pretty much dislike the host so i stop watching and gone back to looking for more of Kekai's Destiny's concept art.

it all makes sense now, this must be the reason why i'm intrigued by a bungie game. kekai's art is a big part of selling games.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:47 PM

OK... let's get a fanboy opinion (me) as I sit through this...

1. Wanna be Drew Carey... without the sense of humor.
2. 3:30 in... this host is awful.
3. Wow, that was painful. They'll be looking more at pet/minion AI allegedly, pretty much nothing new. I think Chris (Anet guy) was relieved to be done with that.

I watched so you won't have to. If you don't you'll learn as much as I did.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:52 PM

View PostVolkon, on 20 February 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

1. Wanna be Drew Carey... without the sense of humor.

So just like the real Drew Carey. OH HO!





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