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[seppl]

I am playing a Warrior with Sword and shouts for healing.
I like the bleeding of the sword and the support of my shouts.

My armor at the moment is the Apothecary Set (Healing, Toughness, Condition Damage).
Now i am consider to use the Cleric Set (Healing, Toughness, Power).

The Apothecary Set provides 224 more condition damage.
.... this are aprox. 11 damage more every tick

On the other side the Cleric Set provides more power.

Any suggestions or notes to this thoughts?

[Sagramor]

Not sure why you'd opt for Power in a Condition (Bleed) build.

[Barbieslayer]

Runes of the Undead might be worth a look if you want to boost CD, but I don't know if that's helpful..

[MyKungFuIsGood]

Well this is just napkin math but...

I'm assuming you're running sword/shield.  Its been my experience that doing you can sustain 10 stacks of bleed.  So you loose about 110 dps from bleeding damge.

From the wiki:

Damage done = (weapon damage) * Power * (skill-specific coefficient) / (target's Armor)


So with sword damage rounded to 950, and targets armor at 2600.  There's about a 250 power difference between the two sets and since this is napkin math, I'm going to assume 2k power with the cleric set.  Skill-specific coefficients, I'm not taking them into account, just be aware that they will accentuate your gains with the cleric set.
Cleric set => 950*2000*1/2600 = 730
Apoth set => 950*1750*1/2600 = 639

You gain about 100 dps in direct damage.  

Overall it looks like a wash.  However, there are many things that are immune to bleed that will significantly lower your ability to dps (like those devourer nests in CoF p2), it might be a good idea to slowly move your gear towards cleric.

Edited by MyKungFuIsGood, 20 February 2013 - 05:14 PM.

[Nikephoros]

You don't want either of those sets.  Rabid seems to be the best for what you want.  Additionally, I feel compelled to advise you that condition damage is very bad, and as you progress in the game you'll come to regret investing significant resources into pursuing condition damage.

[seppl]

@MyKungFUIsGood
Thx for your informative calc. Sound clear. And the different is realy nothing.

@Nikephoros
The Rabid had Prec, Though and Cond.Damage .....that was my Armor befor the Apoth Set. Unfortunately there is no healing on the Set and the shouts are not so welcome as with healing ;-)

@Barbieslayer
I am using the Rune of Soldier because there is a nice effect with 6 Runes (remove a condition).
After switching to a shout warrior i used the undead runes with the Rabid Set.

[Nikephoros]

seppl, on 20 February 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

@Nikephoros
The Rabid had Prec, Though and Cond.Damage .....that was my Armor befor the Apoth Set. Unfortunately there is no healing on the Set and the shouts are not so welcome as with healing ;-)

Healing Power is an insanely wasteful stat.  The DPS you lose by wearing clerics or apothecary will be huge, but the added power of crappy shout heals will be nothing.  It's a huge, wasteful trade off.  You're making a gigantic mistake if you spend significant resources on this idea.  I'm trying to be as helpful as possible, and I want you to seriously take my advice and avoid this move.