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#121 Treble

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:53 PM

View Postchuckles79, on 26 February 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

I think between TSYM and the other hardcore people staying, that we won't have to worry about going to T3 unless we are relentlessly 2v1'd in a coordinated manner.

A lot of the reason this last batch of folks are leaving is that they feel we would not get quality combat in T2.  At least now we'll have to work hard for victory, and that's not a problem for us.
T2 looks to provide arguably better combat for you guys anyway. WM is there in Kaineng. There's not a day they don't put up a fight. They look to be in need of a few good NA commanders, but I'd be proud to fight against the new Kaineng.

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#122 Kreen

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:42 PM

Welcome back Kurthos,

I was going to slam into that first post of yours to highlight some of the obvious inconsistencies but thats just petty of me as we can both see them anyway and its clear that you probably did not mean things quite in those terms, it was just written that way.

As others have said, its a game and each person and guild will make their own decision on how they want to play it to get the best enjoyment possible for themselves and their members.

I am sure I am not the only one who finds its slightly amusing that some of the same folks who were not too happy about JQ's new members a few weeks ago are now moving on mass to BG which I am sure will be making a splash into T1 very soon. The winners here seem to be Anet, they are not so stupid after all are they...

T1 is what it is, Shriens post was spot on for me. T1 has always been about coverage, you can only do so much if you don't have it compared to your competiton. Its clear that there is good strategy and tactics in all tiers and as Shiren so eloquently pointed out its arrogant of folks to think otherwise.

I actually hope BG beat JQ, a bit perverse I know, great close fights are where it is at. If BG does not beat JQ handsomely then I am not sure what will happen to the game as its clear we will lose a lot of players as there are no other servers left to jump to.  I am assuming of course that those folks would prefer not to come to JQ or SoR and join with those two in a orgy of self flagellation :)

Anyway, good luck to all WvW folks in the coming weeks, I hope we get back to good close 3 ways fights.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:43 PM

View PostEvilSinzGW2, on 26 February 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

Merc seemed to me like they would never leave the server so this was more of a shock to many that remain. Difficult for me to throw out my respect for them.  For now, I wish them luck.

Well, I'm gonna give them full respect. All jokes aside, it's freakin' hard to leave your home server. I'm sure there will be some Black Lion tears, but I guess at the end of the day you gotta wish them luck.

SoS is content, more or less happy, I guess to be shifting out of t1 for the time being. But that doesn't mean saying goodbye to these guilds forever. If they can transfer now, what's wrong with transferring later -- it's the wiser decision in a way.

Scoping out what happens to tier one, what the WvW update does.

You could say these guilds will go out of practice and that may be right -- but what's so hard about running into a lagfest and pressing 1, amirite?

There is a lot of bravado in WvW and it'd be good to have a break from it. I've been too scared to do my fractals these past few weeks, but I'm easing back into them :)

I won't be part of the tier one battles for the time being, but I'm going to be rooting for the boys over in BG as that is where the majority of SoS's competitive spirit lives on! Go get 'em!

#124 EvilSinzGW2

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:13 PM

View PostSulking, on 26 February 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:



There is a lot of bravado in WvW and it'd be good to have a break from it. I've been too scared to do my fractals these past few weeks, but I'm easing back into them :)


This is the exact response I'm hearing from a TON of people.  Apparently some players can now just relax and have fun.  They don't have to worry about being seen outside of WvW.  lol  .........that is so crazy.   Crazy freakin pathetic!

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

View PostEvilSinzGW2, on 26 February 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

This is the exact response I'm hearing from a TON of people.  Apparently some players can now just relax and have fun.  They don't have to worry about being seen outside of WvW.  lol  .........that is so crazy.   Crazy freakin pathetic!

They should have been doing that all along instead of claiming to be the best server there ever was. I think Vizunah Square has something to say about that.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

View PostKreen, on 26 February 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

I actually hope BG beat JQ,

hopefully they alternate wins. That's the best scenario for everyone, and reduce chance of another mass transfer / server implosion. I am hopeful that nothing major happens over the next few months.

#127 Sulking

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:27 PM

View PostEvilSinzGW2, on 26 February 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

This is the exact response I'm hearing from a TON of people.  Apparently some players can now just relax and have fun.  They don't have to worry about being seen outside of WvW.  lol  .........that is so crazy.   Crazy freakin pathetic!

It is crazy, but that was what the atmosphere was like in SoS for the time being. If a commander was seen just hanging around in LA it'd be like "wtf you doing, go help out the realm".

That's the stage it got it, and guess what, that's why guilds did leave. Because they wanted people to stay in WvW and not enjoy the game (to put it bluntly).

View PostMrZero, on 26 February 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

They should have been doing that all along instead of claiming to be the best server there ever was. I think Vizunah Square has something to say about that.

STFU SOS IS THE BEST

Edited by Sulking, 26 February 2013 - 08:28 PM.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

View PostSulking, on 26 February 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

It is crazy, but that was what the atmosphere was like in SoS for the time being. If a commander was seen just hanging around in LA it'd be like "wtf you doing, go help out the realm".

That's the stage it got it, and guess what, that's why guilds did leave. Because they wanted people to stay in WvW and not enjoy the game (to put it bluntly).



To which said commander should have replied, "wtf youdoing, go help out the realm".

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:38 PM

View PostMrZero, on 26 February 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

They should have been doing that all along instead of claiming to be the best server there ever was. I think Vizunah Square has something to say about that.

Call me crazy, but I'd be willing to bet that majority of people on any server winning believe they are on the best server there even was.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

View Posttwo maces, on 26 February 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

hopefully they alternate wins. That's the best scenario for everyone, and reduce chance of another mass transfer / server implosion. I am hopeful that nothing major happens over the next few months.

yes exactly why I would like it, agreed close fights with alternate wins would be best. If it doesnt turn out like that then I wonder what the future holds for GW2 WvWvW given all the other distractions.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:20 PM

Every single WvW guild should join the same server and crush everyone without trying.  Then we all be the best and we can stop all forum drama forever and we can start focusing on our ESO mega-alliance.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:39 PM

View PostKreen, on 26 February 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

yes exactly why I would like it, agreed close fights with alternate wins would be best. If it doesnt turn out like that then I wonder what the future holds for GW2 WvWvW given all the other distractions.

No the best thing would be for three servers to alternate wins or at least have a close match for the week. Two stacked servers will just help alternate SoR and KN from tier 1 and tier 2 where they will get blown out in tier 1 and then blow out tier 2. In my opinion thats not healthy to the WvW environment.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:22 PM

View PostStinky Garbage, on 26 February 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Every single WvW guild should join the same server and crush everyone without trying.  Then we all be the best and we can stop all forum drama forever and we can start focusing on our ESO mega-alliance.

Hahaha, just call our guild "Guild Wars 2" and show them WoWkids whatsup.

Edited by Sulking, 26 February 2013 - 11:22 PM.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:41 PM

View PostStinky Garbage, on 26 February 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Every single WvW guild should join the same server and crush everyone without trying.  Then we all be the best and we can stop all forum drama forever and we can start focusing on our ESO mega-alliance.

Naw then forum drama starts about who crushed the other server harder..

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:26 AM

View PostStinky Garbage, on 26 February 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Every single WvW guild should join the same server and crush everyone without trying.  Then we all be the best and we can stop all forum drama forever and we can start focusing on our ESO mega-alliance.

Thats how it was with henge of denravi at release for what... 2-3 months ?

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:29 AM

View PostSmokeyNYY, on 26 February 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

No the best thing would be for three servers to alternate wins or at least have a close match for the week. Two stacked servers will just help alternate SoR and KN from tier 1 and tier 2 where they will get blown out in tier 1 and then blow out tier 2. In my opinion thats not healthy to the WvW environment.

Oh I agree completely and have said that a 3 way tight match up is the best thing for all concerned many times on both forums. It seems that this is not going to be possible though with the current playerbase that appears to want to stack on just two servers.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:54 AM

I'm not sure why the majority of folks feel it's necessary to stay in T1 to get the best fights.  

Granted, I've never been in T1 myself, but back when I actually WvW'd, there were some pretty epic battles in the lower brackets.  

WvW isn't balanced. (especially at the top)  You're better off sinking with your server to whatever tier your player base can handle and enjoy WvW once you get there.  

Jumping over to the new fotm server for WvW is pointless really.  You stack the server and faceroll for a month or two til everyone is bored and quits.  Yee-haw.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:40 AM

View PostMikeSr, on 27 February 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:

So you will be no longer be an active part of Tier 1 discussion. Breaks my heart :qq:


Was that the plan when your guild Aggression moved to Blackgate from Sea of Sorrows?
If you're going to be posting in this manner, then you can't be policing the thread. You can do one of the other, not both.

Unless you just enjoy getting trolled into oblivion.

You are fooling yourself, user. Nothing here is what it seems. ANet is not the plucky hero, Guru is not an evil empire, and this is not the grand arena.



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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:44 AM

View PostKattar, on 27 February 2013 - 03:40 AM, said:

If you're going to be posting in this manner, then you can't be policing the thread. You can do one of the other, not both.

I was wondering how long his act was going to last in his own thread.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:46 AM

View PostKattar, on 27 February 2013 - 03:40 AM, said:

If you're going to be posting in this manner, then you can't be policing the thread. You can do one of the other, not both.

Unless you just enjoy getting trolled into oblivion.

True, I was wrong. I will keep that in mind when I post in future. I am sorry :)


Edited by MikeSr, 27 February 2013 - 03:54 AM.


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:37 AM

View PostKattar, on 27 February 2013 - 03:40 AM, said:

If you're going to be posting in this manner, then you can't be policing the thread. You can do one of the other, not both.

Unless you just enjoy getting trolled into oblivion.

Busted!

Great fights this week, great fights.

Edited by Sulking, 27 February 2013 - 06:37 AM.


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:27 PM

View PostStinky Garbage, on 26 February 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Every single WvW guild should join the same server and crush everyone without trying.  Then we all be the best and we can stop all forum drama forever and we can start focusing on our ESO mega-alliance.

Maybe we could invite other games to come face our super server? Or take our super server and invade other games with our GW2 characters?

"No fair! WoW is stacked!"
"PS2 uses hacks! Laser hack laser hack!"
"Wow. One loss and CoH imploded..."

Awesome.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:59 PM

View PostCalmLittleBuddy, on 27 February 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

Maybe we could invite other games to come face our super server? Or take our super server and invade other games with our GW2 characters?

"No fair! WoW is stacked!"
"PS2 uses hacks! Laser hack laser hack!"
"Wow. One loss and CoH imploded..."

Awesome.

Haha. Everything would be fun until we fought Eve Online.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:07 PM

View PostCalmLittleBuddy, on 27 February 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

-snip-

Awesome.

Until the tween & tools who talk random s* in VoIP - CoD crowd comes over.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:38 PM

Well Sanctum of Rall, good luck as you fight the two Juggernauts.   I gotta root for the lil guy.  I hope to have more yak slapping freedom in tier 2.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:53 PM

What would happen if SOS and KN swap wins in T2? ie close matchups , would SOR be stuck in T1 due to sandwich between two juggernaut servers? SOS probably wouldnt want to return to T1.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

View Posttwo maces, on 27 February 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

What would happen if SOS and KN swap wins in T2? ie close matchups , would SOR be stuck in T1 due to sandwich between two juggernaut servers? SOS probably wouldnt want to return to T1.

SoR will do fine now that it's not facing JQ alone. SoR is probably just slightly less populated than BG at the moment, but that gap probably will widen as the next two weeks unfold. I don't think SoR really cares which Tier they are in as long as they get to fight.

View PostDeagarFA, on 27 February 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Haha. Everything would be fun until we fought Eve Online.

Oh how true that would be!

I haven't been back there in about a year, but now there's some serious PvP folks.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:18 PM

View PostEvilSinzGW2, on 27 February 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

Well Sanctum of Rall, good luck as you fight the two Juggernauts.   I gotta root for the lil guy.  I hope to have more yak slapping freedom in tier 2.
SoR will be fine. Since moving here this week I've found them to not give a shit about their chances of winning, they're just there to fight. This is true of most of the GW2 community (Unlike in the first few months of GW2). I think most people who only play to win and not because they enjoy WvW have largely quit.

Whether or not SoR will switch with Kaineng in a few weeks or with SoS or another server remains to be seen, but we'll still have a good showing.

Edited by DeagarFA, 27 February 2013 - 05:19 PM.


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:20 PM

I think Sanctum will do well during certain periods and hold their own.  I just feel eventually they will simply wear out.  I don't know how much coverage Blackgate has now so maybe they can run neck and neck with them for a while.  I really like that Choo guild they are beast (culling bombs aside).  I also don't believe the guilds on SoR value their tier position over having fun.  Sad other guilds can't view this game that way.

From what I can tell, Sea of Sorrows has finally grasped the "F the score let's have some fun" mentality.  The guilds that have worried more about score are gone.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:27 PM

View PostEvilSinzGW2, on 27 February 2013 - 05:20 PM, said:

I think Sanctum will do well during certain periods and hold their own.  I just feel eventually they will simply wear out.  I don't know how much coverage Blackgate has now so maybe they can run neck and neck with them for a while.  I really like that Choo guild they are beast (culling bombs aside).  I also don't believe the guilds on SoR value their tier position over having fun.  Sad other guilds can't view this game that way.

From what I can tell, Sea of Sorrows has finally grasped the "F the score let's have some fun" mentality.  The guilds that have worried more about score are gone.

We dont plan to stay in T1 for too long. We have a plan




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