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#61 El Duderino

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:11 PM

View PostThaddeuz, on 26 February 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

I don't see your point. This is just about word. What is exactly farming or grinding. For me they are different. Farming is doing a activity to get a certain item. You can farm one hours, you can farm half an hour you can farm 15min. Grinding for me is doing stuff over and over because better stuff getting available. You farm for you exotic gear, then you farm to get ascended pieces for me that is not grind. But if you farm for all ascended piece and another tier go out in 6month and you farm this tier of gear, and then in a year another tier go out and you farm for this tier to, then you got grind. Farm is an activity that some like and other don't, grind is repeating the same thing over and over again to keep yourself up to date with your gear.


I still don't get your point. He asked you what is a casual player in your eye and you answer with a bunch of stuff you can do that don't need ecto????? Using ecto is what make the difference between casual and hardcore? Casual and Hardcore player gonna do practically the same kind of activities in the game. I got friend who play once a week for 2 hours, they come with use in fractal or in dungeon when they play and they get ectos.

A casual player can be a player that does any of those things.

And, it just so happens that people that do those things, don't necessarily get ectos.

I'm surprised that you didn't understand why that part was relevant to the conversation.

You are burying your head in the sand if you don't think that farming can be a grind.

View PostLunacy Polish, on 26 February 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

My play time is pretty much that list.  I really do not get ectos incidentally.   A couple yes but not enough to actually upgrade my character.

I do one AC run a week.  Instead of getting leveled up or playing the content I like best I run this stupid dungeon.  On a good day I will get a rare drop.  On any day I get a little pile of gold and an exotic I can salvage.  Typically I get one per run.  I use Black Lion kits awarded by doing dailies to salvage.

I then take the gold I made and save a little for repairs and leveling alts.   I buy a little siege.  I try to have a little for upgrades but usually don't.

After that I typically can buy two ectos.  I sacrifice one night of actually having fun so I can slowly upgrade.  

I can live with this.  I do not think it makes sense but this is okay.  I feel like I am keeping pace because I can field one exotic equipped level 80 warrior to the server armed with at least a little siege for WvW.  When I read something about ectos being more expensive though I get a little concerned.

This needs to be restated. This is how a lot of casual players play and feel.

Edited by El Duderino, 26 February 2013 - 09:09 PM.


#62 Baldur The Bold

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

Time to invest all my gold into ecto ? :huh:

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

View PostBaldur The Bold, on 26 February 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

Time to invest all my gold into ecto ? :huh:

If you are going to buy them now for 37s, you better hope they get to 43.5s just to break even.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

View PostBaldur The Bold, on 26 February 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

Time to invest all my gold into ecto ? :huh:


That time was a few days ago.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

I'm saving ectos for my legendary and for an ascended back item, after than I plan to craft some Mystic forge weapons, I was never going to have enough ectos anyway.  Pretty much everything in game needs ecto, so will one more ecto sink make that much difference?

#66 Kovares

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:25 PM

View PostEl Duderino, on 26 February 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

If you are going to buy them now for 37s, you better hope they get to 43.5s just to break even.

Chances are they might spike that high. Be prepared to flush out the stash when the decline happens though, at least that's what I'm planning to do for today. =)

#67 Myugen

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:28 PM

View PostRitualist, on 26 February 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

That time was a few days ago.

They sat at 35.4 this morning, already at 38, and I'm guessing after patch they will skyrocket. Gems will also be insanely expensive with the quaggan and charr tiget backpacks. This patch is such a money maker :D

#68 I'm Squirrel

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:33 PM

guild wars 2 has just became the ultimate farming game of all time.

edit:

not srs about " of all time "

Edited by I'm Squirrel, 26 February 2013 - 09:34 PM.


#69 Keaghan

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:39 PM

Sorta wish I could turn back the Amulet I got :[  (I'd rather just get triforge now >_>)

View PostEon Lilu, on 26 February 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:

Looks like we will be able to get the new ascended item's with laurels and ecto's aswell.

So not just with the guild commendations only but with another method of laurels and ecto's from the laurel vendor..

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How do you have 75 Laurels? Do PvP dailys count too?

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:41 PM

View PostKeaghan, on 26 February 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

Sorta wish I could turn back the Amulet I got :[  (I'd rather just get triforge now >_>)



How do you have 75 Laurels? Do PvP dailys count too?

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:43 PM

Hm...I thought they said they would have other methods of obtaining ascended gear :|

To be honest I'd probably be down to see these obtainable in fractals for 10-15 pristines but we all know that probably won't happen >.>

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:45 PM

View PostShrimps, on 26 February 2013 - 09:43 PM, said:

Hm...I thought they said they would have other methods of obtaining ascended gear :|

To be honest I'd probably be down to see these obtainable in fractals for 10-15 pristines but we all know that probably won't happen >.>

You can get them form guild missions.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:45 PM

View PostShrimps, on 26 February 2013 - 09:43 PM, said:

Hm...I thought they said they would have other methods of obtaining ascended gear :|

To be honest I'd probably be down to see these obtainable in fractals for 10-15 pristines but we all know that probably won't happen >.>

They have.
We currently have three ways of getting Ascended gear up from one.

#74 Kuruptz2

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:50 PM

FUUUUUUU i wanna rip my hair off ! i soled all my 60 ectos!!!!!!!

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:51 PM

Well, time to buy ectos ASAP, the prices are gonna skyrocket

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:12 PM

I was hoping that the guild run rewards would get more ectos into the economy as they reward rares/exotics thatll be salved but that will take a while before that starts happening.

Bugger, I haven't actually been able to get a single item yet as they all need 250 of a mat that is exceedingly hard to get (powerful blood drops are ridiculous, salving currently gives me on average 1 ecto per exotic using a BL kit) :/

#77 DarkGanni

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:13 PM

What I noticed among the new ascended earrings, there's no Precision, Vitality, Healing Power ones. I guess "thanks" ANet another rushed job as always.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:26 PM

So the all-stats Solaria and Lunaria go from 31 and 8 to all attributes to 31 and 12 to all. So from 39 to 43. Not sure what the necklaces were before for that comparison but I imagine the same happened to them.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:02 PM

You can buy the same ascended accessories from the guild vendor for 5 gold + 12 guild commendations.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:31 PM

View PostDarkobra, on 26 February 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

So the all-stats Solaria and Lunaria go from 31 and 8 to all attributes to 31 and 12 to all. So from 39 to 43. Not sure what the necklaces were before for that comparison but I imagine the same happened to them.

It'd be interesting if they 'buffed' the Celestial gear. On paper at least they already appear to give more stats than the other 3-stat gear. While I'm not so keen on all-stat gear, it's likely there will come a tipping point where Celestial gear really isn't a big compromise over 3-stat gear...in fact it may go so far as to be better depending on the situation. It turns the min-maxing thing on its head, at least as far as ascended trinklets go.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:37 PM

View PostLethorio, on 26 February 2013 - 11:02 PM, said:

You can buy the same ascended accessories from the guild vendor for 5 gold + 12 guild commendations.

How is the rate on commendations?

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:53 PM

View PostEl Duderino, on 26 February 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

Changing the argument doesn't make you right.

Of course casuals don't need ecto's or ascended gear.

And, they didn't add ascended gear for hardcore players, or they wouldn't have added daily challanges and laurels specifically to help casual players "keep up". If you want me to find the quote, I will be happy to.

I agree 100% that using ecto's to get ascended gear is not aimed towards casual players.

But, the statement that caused this whole mess was:

"This will make the price of ecto's rise and be further out of the reach of casual players."

I think that statement on a whole is pretty fair to make. LordKrall thought it wasn't, which is what caused this argument.

You guys will find a way to argue about -anything-.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:03 AM

I don't think ArenaNet know what they are doing. They said they wanted to add a bunch of progression to bridge the imaginary gap between exotic and legendary, to give players something to do on their grind to legendary, but they keep adding in a bunch of new things which drain and increase the demand on the resources required for legendaries. Either they don't know what they are doing or they are outright lieing about wanting to bridge the gap and are instead just looking for more ways to have players grinding the same content over and over.

View PostWordsworth, on 26 February 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

How is the rate on commendations?
I don't think we will know until the first guild mission is complete, which will be in like 4 days or something (CALENDAR GATING FTW!!!!). Assuming there is no account restriction on obtaining them, it will also heavily depend on the number of big guilds you belong to that are able to pump as many out as fast as possible.

Edited by Shiren, 27 February 2013 - 12:06 AM.


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:43 AM

View PostShiren, on 27 February 2013 - 12:03 AM, said:

I don't think ArenaNet know what they are doing.

Agreed. I'm not sure how they expect the casual player to get so many ectos or even better 40 laurels for each earring, 30 for amulet. That's almost 4 months there for 3 items. Does that even sound reasonable to the sane mind?

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:59 AM

View PostDarkGanni, on 27 February 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:

Agreed. I'm not sure how they expect the casual player to get

They don't. That's kind of the point of endgame armor. It's not something excepted and designed to be attained by everyone, unlike rare or exotic karma gear.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:08 AM

View PostKeaghan, on 26 February 2013 - 09:45 PM, said:

You can get them form guild missions.

View PostLordkrall, on 26 February 2013 - 09:45 PM, said:

They have.
We currently have three ways of getting Ascended gear up from one.

Nono, I think you guys have misunderstood my point or maybe I just wasn't very clear in my post. Maybe it's just me and I'm too picky but I don't like how:

Ascended Rings - Obtainable via Fractals or Laurels
Ascended Amulets - Obtainable via Laurels only
Ascended Earrings - Guild Missions or Laurels + Ectos
Ascended Backpieces - Mystic Forge or Fractals

I just wish it could be universal meaning that all Ascended gear could be obtained through each and everyone of these methods. I don't know if it's just me but I don't think it's too much to ask? I understand Anet wants people to try out these new guild missions but I feel like people should be allowed to do what they want to do in order to obtain Ascended gear. For example if I really enjoyed running fractals then in my opinion I think I should be able to obtain these Ascended earrings via doing that? Idk just me though.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:20 AM

View Postasbasb, on 27 February 2013 - 12:59 AM, said:

They don't. That's kind of the point of endgame armor. It's not something excepted and designed to be attained by everyone, unlike rare or exotic karma gear.

So casual players aren't expected to go beyond level 30 fractals with any significant agony protection. Got it.

Oh wait, they can just join a ginormous guild and get the earrings/accessories by derping with the rest of the big-guild derps for commendations.

50 ectos are outrageous. They give lower stats than rings, but are 5 laurels more PLUS ectos. I just don't get it.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:22 AM

I'm a casual player and the best time for me to get ecto's is to do fractual runs with my guild.  I get 3-5 drops of rares whenever i do fotm and an exotic once in a while. The black lion slavage kits help a lot. I know i won't ever be able to get an ascended back piece, but getting rings by dailies is helpful. I just hope they will add new ways to get back pieces instead of using the mystic toilet.

50 ecto's isn't the problem it's the 40 laurels. Wish they made it an option instead to either use laurels or ecto's instead of both.

Edited by Raytla, 27 February 2013 - 01:24 AM.


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:24 AM

View PostRaytla, on 27 February 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

I'm a casual player and the best time for me to get ecto's is to do fractual runs with my guild.  I get 3-5 drops of rares whenever i do fotm and an exotic once in a while. The black lion slavage kits help a lot. I know i won't ever be able to get an ascended back piece, but getting rings by dailies is helpful. I just hope they will add new ways to get back pieces instead of using the mystic toilet.

you can get an ascended fractal capacitor with nothing but fractal relics, a vial of mists essence, and skill points.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:47 AM

View PostAKGeo, on 27 February 2013 - 01:24 AM, said:

you can get an ascended fractal capacitor with nothing but fractal relics, a vial of mists essence, and skill points.

Yes, I forgot to mention Fractal Capacitor
Thanks for reminding me!
Would love for them to be purchasable with laurels.

Edited by Raytla, 27 February 2013 - 01:50 AM.





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