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[st_clouds]

After playing for days I've only 1 laurel to show for, this is because I'm a very casual player, logging in about an hour to 2 a day. Usually just hopping between alts.

The only time I was able to hit the daily was when I played about 4-5 hrs straight on a weekend, but even most weekend I can't make that kind of investment.

So how do you get ascended gears in a reasonable time frame?

[Ritualist]

GW2 is a game where max power is a want.
Thus, you don't seem to want it badly enough.


EDIT:
I'd also suggest just going after the gear of the lowest power that still allows you to do the content you want to be doing. Don't be getting the best gear in game JUST to have it. Get the best gear in game ONLY if that gear is the only way to be doing the content you want to be doing. This isn't GW1 where you could be using this gear for years to come: you'll probably be replacing it in a few months time so no point in wasting all that time on it.

Edited by Ritualist, 09 March 2013 - 09:33 AM.

[Just Horus]

Technically the fastest way to get an ascended amulet would be forging the ascended triforge pendant but that is very costly. Beyond that it is only through laurels. You're going to have to become quicker with finishing your dailies/monthlies if you want the ascended amulet. For the dailies you only need to complete 5 of the tasks listed so choose the 5 that are easiest for you to do.

For the rings, it will be much faster to get them via FotM than laurels so try that if you are not aversed to dungeons.

[TirNAill]

Seems like you have enough time if you have 1 to 2 hrs a day. I can get the daily complete in 30-45 mins before work. I get the monthly complete in 5 to 6 days even doing the daily. Get a little more focused and you'll get those laurels.

Agree with the FotM for the rings as its faster. Ear rings so far as I know are laurels PLUS ectos,

[Bloggi]

Laurels is currently the way to get ascended amulets, and we gain them through making a concerted effort at the 5 achievements for the daily reward, and also through monthlies (which are a little more time consuming, but worth working towards over the month).

If I were you, check out what the options are for your dailies as soon as you log on each day, then see which 5 are the easiest you can realistically do in that 1-2 hour period of game time. The dailies seem a bit more time-consuming now in the new system than they did in the old days when the dailies were static and predictable from day to day. But nevertheless completable in the time frame that you have.

On the weekends when you can devote a 4-5 hour stretch to the game (a fractal run with an average group will probably only need an hour and a half to two hours), consider joining a group to run fractals. Get yourself to level 10 in fractals, and then run a level 10 fractal each weekend that you can. Sometimes the daily reward chests will drop an ascended ring.

For ascended accessories, look to doing guild missions if you are part of a reasonably large and active guild that has access to it. This is an easy means to those accessories, but unfortunately if you are unable to get on at the time of the guild mission, then you do miss out on the reward. For those with limited play time, buying one of these accessories for 40 laurels and 50 ectoplasm is just out of the question.

Getting ascended equipment in this game with limited play time is quite like trying to get lots of other stuff done in real life: it requires prioritization of tasks and judicious time management, which I gotta admit I'm increasingly reluctant to do for what is supposed to be a game.

Edited by Bloggi, 09 March 2013 - 12:42 AM.

[st_clouds]

Doesn't sound very fun

O well if it's time to move on, it's time to move on.

[AKGeo]

Brand new player "days" quitting because they feel that ascended gear is too hard to get.


Seriously?

[Shayne Hawke]

Ascended gear is not meant to be obtained in a short amount of time.

Back pieces are restricted by how quickly you can get skill points and how quickly you can get Mists Essence to drop for you.

Accessories are restricted by laurels, requiring the amount of them that you earn in one month's dailies and monthly, or by guild commendations, which reset weekly.

Rings are restricted by dailies, fractal dailies, or a lucky drop from your fractal daily.

Amulets are also restricted by laurels.

Note that even though many of these things can be obtained with laurels, each one piece costs about a month's worth of them, requiring almost half a year if you try to obtain them by laurels alone.

[dzanikken]

Getting to level 10 in FotM is easy enough, and the doing the level 10 daily until you get a pair, plus you have a chance for other rare/exotic loot.

[lalangamena]

if you are a casual player logging for hour and hopping on alts, you don't need ascended gear.

[Thaddeuz]

1 or 2 hours is more than enough to do your daily. Take a look at your choice, often you can have easy daily that can be done in 15-20min while playing with a alt to level it since you usually go in low level zone for daily. You just need to know where and what to do to finish your daily quick. If you don't know these things, you can still do your daily in 30-45min so its not a big deal and the more you do it, the better you get at it. The laurel should go for your amulet.

Fractal is easy, again if you know what to do. I don't know at which level you are right now in Fractal, but once you are level 10 you have chance to get the earing you search. If you are lucky good, if not 20 fractal daily and you have your 2 rings.

For your back, if you level up your fractal to level 10 and then you just keep doing level 10 with 1 fractal max per day it gonna take you about 30 days to get enough fractal relic to get your back item ascended. If you keep leveling higher than level 10, you get more fractal relic and you could have your back faster.

So if you do your daily and 1 fractal per day which is about 2 hours per day, its gonna take you about a month to get your rings, back item and amulet.

For the earings you can get them from laurels + glob of ectoplasm or my doing 6 guild missions + 5 gold which is way faster if you have a guild big enough.

[Butr0sButr0s]

st_clouds, on 09 March 2013 - 12:54 AM, said:

Doesn't sound very fun

O well if it's time to move on, it's time to move on.

lalangamena, on 09 March 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

if you are a casual player logging for hour and hopping on alts, you don't need ascended gear.

Lalangamena is correct, if you're not concerned with hardcore play just skip them.  I don't enjoy grinding, so I don't do the daily's unless I look up and find myself 95% of the way there through normal play.  Ascended items aren't needed for any content minus the high level fractals and can be obtained through regular fractal runs, though it will take time.

[Reason on Cooldown]

Butr0sButr0s, on 09 March 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

Lalangamena is correct, if you're not concerned with hardcore play just skip them.  I don't enjoy grinding, so I don't do the daily's unless I look up and find myself 95% of the way there through normal play.  Ascended items aren't needed for any content minus the high level fractals and can be obtained through regular fractal runs, though it will take time.

+1

There is no NEED to get Ascended gear.  Only high level fractals requires it.  No other content does.  Which I think is the smart thing about Ascended gear.  You expressed that the grind to acquire it doesn't sound fun, and GW2 should be about doing what you find fun.  Yes, it's hard to resist the newest, shiniest gear.  But if it's not fun to get, and it's not NEEDED, then I wouldn't worry about it.

[Heart Collector]

Reason on Cooldown, on 09 March 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

+1

There is no NEED to get Ascended gear.  Only high level fractals requires it.  No other content does.  Which I think is the smart thing about Ascended gear.  You expressed that the grind to acquire it doesn't sound fun, and GW2 should be about doing what you find fun.  Yes, it's hard to resist the newest, shiniest gear.  But if it's not fun to get, and it's not NEEDED, then I wouldn't worry about it.

And even if there was a need, dailies are so easy and quick to do that grinding them out is no big deal. In fact, it gives a longish term goal for laid back players like me who don't want to bother with the hardest content to aim for as they are easily and readily attainable and only require time.

[AKGeo]

If you're in a big guild and have at least one character at level 10 fractals you can potentially get a full loadout of ascended gear in 20 days, not a whole month as mentioned above.

But leaving the game because the best-in-slot items don't fall in your lap immediately? See ya!

[El Duderino]

Reason on Cooldown, on 09 March 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

There is no NEED to get Ascended gear.  Only high level fractals requires it.  No other content does.  Which I think is the smart thing about Ascended gear.  You expressed that the grind to acquire it doesn't sound fun, and GW2 should be about doing what you find fun.  Yes, it's hard to resist the newest, shiniest gear.  But if it's not fun to get, and it's not NEEDED, then I wouldn't worry about it.

There are ascended pieces that work well in WvW that have stats you can't get anywhere else. Toughness/Crit rings are one example.

Sure, they are not necessary. But, neither is running full exotic armor. However, they are more beneficial and therefore coveted especially in WvW scenarios where you could be fighting a player with better stats if you don't have best in slot items, which reduces the balance of the fight.

[Sans]

with choices for your daily, you should be able to pick the ones that work around where you're leveling your alts.

daily gathering/kill variety can be done in basically any area.

then you have get x kills/do x events in xxx area.

Unless your leveling all your alts in just metrica province, you should be able to get your daily within 30-60min.

[papaschtroumpf]

Sans, on 09 March 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

with choices for your daily, you should be able to pick the ones that work around where you're leveling your alts.

daily gathering/kill variety can be done in basically any area.

then you have get x kills/do x events in xxx area.

Unless your leveling all your alts in just metrica province, you should be able to get your daily within 30-60min.

That.
I like the new daily choices, more ways to achieve dailies while putzing around on alts. Getting 5 vets can be done in minutes in some of the lower level zones. since many zone events involve a vet, running zone events can get you both your even and vet count. gathering is one of the quickest achievements to get.
You don't have to do all kills on the same alt, so if you have some in different zones, it makes kill variety automatic as part of leveling alts.

I also agree that getting ascended gear is far from a priority, especially for a causal player, you just don;t need them that bad.

[Impmon]

This months... monthly should'e been called an "hourly"  because it took maybe that much to obtain it.  You get 10 laurels, karma pots, exp, cash, etc as reward.  Do the daily you'll obtain 1 laurel per day.  Even if you never do the monthly you'll have an ascended amulet within a month doing a daily once per day.

[Alex Dimitri]

Obtaining Ascended pieces is long and slow but possible, the PROBLEM here is if you want more then one character with Ascended gear!
This is worst thing about Ascended gear, no matter how much time you invest you ain`t gonna get it faster (except rings), bad thing in my opinion simply because someone who is willing to invest more time should be able to get that gear much faster !
Logic behind this lies in simple truth, the more you work on your job the more you get paid....i don`t see any reason why would this be different in game !!!

[Coren]

FotM for rings, laurels for amulet then earrings.

I'm not sure.what you do in those 2 hours but you can easily get the daily done in 30-45 minutes mate:)

[Noob On Steroid]

Ascended rings: lvl10 (or higher) of Fractals of the Mists (dungeon in Lion's Arch).
Ascended amulet: laurels, by completing daily/monthly (not that hard with 1-2 hours play per day).
Ascended trinkets: Guild missions, each mission gives 2 commendations, you can only get the reward from each type of mission once per week (once for bounty, once for trek, and so on, tiers don't matter). 12 commendations and 5 gold gets you a trinket.

Ascended items are time sinks. They were introduced to bridge the gap between exotics and a legendary in terms of time, not actual effort. Even casual players can get them (you can do a daily in less than an hour, normally), but it'll take a while because the amount of laurels/commendations/daily fractal chests you can get is limited.

[Jump_N_Move]

Impmon, on 17 March 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

This months... monthly should'e been called an "hourly"  because it took maybe that much to obtain it.  You get 10 laurels, karma pots, exp, cash, etc as reward.  Do the daily you'll obtain 1 laurel per day.  Even if you never do the monthly you'll have an ascended amulet within a month doing a daily once per day.

For real. I had 3/4 by the second day. I'm still only at 50/100 events though. >.<

[Enscheff]

Hours to complete a daily? Are you just sitting there chatting in your guild?

An example of a typical daily consists of:

20 gatherings
40 Shiverpeak kills
25 aquatic kills
1 level gained
10 salvaged items

So you head to one of the Shiverpeak zones that has some water, and kill 25 mobs underwater. After your 25 aquatic kills that also counted towards your Shiverpeak kills, you jump out of the water and run around killing any random thing you see. While you are running around looking for kills, you gather everything you see. Quickly salvage 10 items that you collected in your killing spree. All those dailies give exp, so you should be close to gaining a level. If not, do a heart or something to get the level.

Need to dodge a bunch of attacks? Find a mob with a slow attack animation and dodge it over and over for a few minutes. Need to cure a bunch of conditions? Load up you cures and cure every little condition that gets applied to you.

Dailies really should not take more than 30 minutes.

On the other hand, getting 100 events for the monthly is a bit of a grind since you can't just go farm events reliably on demand...you have to find them.

Edited by Enscheff, 18 March 2013 - 04:38 PM.

[Thaddeuz]

Enscheff, on 18 March 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

On the other hand, getting 100 events for the monthly is a bit of a grind since you can't just go farm events reliably on demand...you have to find them.

Before, just by doing your daily you get 150 event. More that the Monthly ask for. Now, not all the daily need you to complete 5 event. Some ask you to complete 4 event in a particular zone, other ask for 5 event underlevel, simply for 5 event or even no event at all. Still it should be easy to complete these event just by doing your Daily. Add to that the event you come across while questing and those you can find in dungeon.

[AKGeo]

Most of the world events out there have multiple lead-up events tacked on. Events are nowhere near hard to find. WvW gives you a boatload of events as well if you're effective. Events are nowhere near hard to complete. I play normally and had my events done in two days.

[Enscheff]

Some poeple really need to work on their reading comprehension...

In the context of this thread, getting 100 events completed is somewhat of a grind, especially for a casual player. The main reason being that you can't just go somewhere and be guaranteed to find an event right away. There are many places you can reliably kill veterans, or get aquatic kills, but it is much harder to reliably find events to complete if you only play 1 hour per day.

It is much easier for a casual player to kill 100 veterans or craft 40 green items than it is for the same person to complete 100 events in one month. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm just stating it as a fact.

And anyone that completes 100 events in 2 days has no valid input for a thread like this. You play WAY more than the person who started this thread, so your take on the matter is completely irrelevant.

[Roybe]

The quickest way to get ascended items would be to run the Fractals dungeon.  Past that the only other way is to either run dailies and monthlies...and remain focused on that goal....or do guild content and buy them from the NPC in LA....


I can generally get my dailies done in 30 minutes or so with a little planning (having kills count towards 2-3 areas by running in the correct area, choosing quick and easy daily 'chores' (visit the laurel vendor in LA, craft 10 ingots, salvage items, etc.)

You can run Maw of the Mountain once (and get most of the requirements for daily events)...or help in getting the behemoth up, or shatterer, both are event driven arrivals.  Albeit these are being in the area at the right time for them to be available...

[ShezuTsukai]

The intent of dailies/monthlies is to encourage play in areas not generally played. This includes all PvE... Dungeons, WvW and Fractals are part of PvE.

I see a lot of worry on the event req for monthly and give you WvW. Simply killing caravans, point guards , and the occasional supply camp if you have the build or a couple of friends will net you 100+ events in no time.

I play for 45 minutes/day, weekdays and a couple hours on Saturday and by using the dailies and WvW had the monthly in first week.

[Venereus]

Enscheff, on 19 March 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

Some poeple really need to work on their reading comprehension...

In the context of this thread, getting 100 events completed is somewhat of a grind, especially for a casual player. The main reason being that you can't just go somewhere and be guaranteed to find an event right away. There are many places you can reliably kill veterans, or get aquatic kills, but it is much harder to reliably find events to complete if you only play 1 hour per day.

It is much easier for a casual player to kill 100 veterans or craft 40 green items than it is for the same person to complete 100 events in one month. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm just stating it as a fact.

And anyone that completes 100 events in 2 days has no valid input for a thread like this. You play WAY more than the person who started this thread, so your take on the matter is completely irrelevant.

LoL. WvW is made of events, what are you talking about?