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#1 Tony

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:24 AM

Hello fellow Guild Wars 2 Guru members,

I have recently leveled my first level 80 warrior and I have around 1.3g and I haven't really gained any gold at all. What should I do to start? Should I just do dungeons? (I only have blue gear). Should I farm areas? (Sort of boring)

What should I do?

Thank you very much for any suggestions in advance! It is very much appreciated!

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:31 AM

dailies kinda help. selling all the crap you pick up from enemies

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:34 AM

Money in Gw2 doesn't come as easily as some expect, especially compared to many other MMO's.

The "best" ways to make money are to do dungeon runs, specifically speed runs and farm events and mobs in Orr. Those are your main options for fastest money making. That being said however, you need to be in full exotic gear to be doing speed runs and usually full rares to not struggle to do dungeons. So that first option is mainly for people who already are geared up, to keep getting money. The other major option is just to farm events in Cursed Shores (the third area of Orr). Since there are no gear checks and you usually will be with other people who are doing the same, this is by far the easier of the options. Also, since you are in Orr you will likely be picking up Heavy Moldy Bags (keep an eye out for these because you want them) which have a fairly good chance to drop tier 6 mats for your exotic lvl 80 gear. Rare drops are also fairly plentiful (comparatively speaking) in Orr so you will have the best chance to get ecto from there.

If you aren't into farming or grinding at all, then going around from zone to zone and getting world completion would be a smart idea. Once you clear out everything (sans Orr) you will easily have the money to make yourself a full set of exotic gear. From there, you can do pretty much whatever you want.

Also make sure to do your dailies. Although they don't give much money themselves, Laurels save a lot of money if you trade them in for Ascended gear. You can even trade 5 of them for two pieces of rare or exotic armor from the Laurel vender.

Edit: Oh and one more tip. Harvest and horde EVERYTHING. Yes if you are clearing out an easy zone where you find Iron and soft wood, mine every node and cut down every tree that you can get to without giving yourself a headache. Although they aren't used to make the gear you want, there will ALWAYS be people who are leveling their crafting professions. At the very least when you get a full 250 stack of something that you have no intention of using, sell it at the trading post. You will be surprised how much those low level mats can sell for and it can add up over the long run. Just today I made 5 gold off of the stack of tier 5 dust that I had sitting in my bank.

So yeah, save up for the long haul, because other then buying gold with RL money, there is no get rich quick scheme in Gw2...

Edited by ooZer0, 08 April 2013 - 12:44 AM.


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:35 AM

dailies, mining orichalcum, doing mega boss events for guaranteed rare's.

Sell all that, then buy rare armor/weapons/trinkets and start farming dungeons/fractals.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:54 AM

Find a helpful guild who doesn't care if your equipment sucks, then do dungeon runs and events with them.
Gather the "big" resources whenever you pass by them or they're part of dailies, which would be orichalcum, ancient wood, and omnomberries. Mithril doesn't hurt, either.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 02:08 AM

Run CoF path one. Don't do it in a speed clear zerker group, just do it in a normal group. Use level 80 green armour if you have to (it won't matter that much - CoF is brain dead easy). You can complete path one in less than 10 minutes with most groups. It nets around 1g per run plus tokens. It will be easy for you to buy exotic armour with that, but more importantly you will make a lot of gold.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:04 AM

View PostShiren, on 08 April 2013 - 02:08 AM, said:

Run CoF path one. Don't do it in a speed clear zerker group, just do it in a normal group. Use level 80 green armour if you have to (it won't matter that much - CoF is brain dead easy). You can complete path one in less than 10 minutes with most groups. It nets around 1g per run plus tokens. It will be easy for you to buy exotic armour with that, but more importantly you will make a lot of gold.

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once you can afford it, get full zerker gear, and join zerker groups for p1 cof. For gear you wana get Cof Set 1, then Exoctic Berserker Trinkets. In the last 3 days (1 day I didn't play tho so rly its 2days), I've gotten almost 40 gold. I'm getting about 5-6gold every hour with omnomberry bars, I farm for an hour, take an hour break, then go again. that 40gold doesn't include money spent on other things, like the omnomberry bars, new stuff for guard, etc etc. Also, you get exoctic's that you can sell on TP for a decent chunk of money. Another thing, I only go like 3-4 times a day, then usually end up doing homework at night, so I could farm and make alot more money.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:57 AM

View PostSans, on 08 April 2013 - 12:35 AM, said:

dailies, mining orichalcum, doing mega boss events for guaranteed rare's.

Sell all that, then buy rare armor/weapons/trinkets and start farming dungeons/fractals.

That sounds an awful lot like GRIND!

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:08 AM

How I made money (I found a lovely group of friends whom loved dungeons, and used to do it often with them when I was free) was via dungeons. I doing 2-3 dungeon runs and made about 1g+. Do it long and often, you'll reap in much more profit. Even though you might be in some blue-ish dungeon gear, just make sure you give the group a heads up and make them understand that you're not at your full capability yet.

Do dungeons, get tokens, get new armour--but make sure you know what you want to do with the warrior first, eg playstyle and builds, so you know what armour to buy. Other than that, you'll get both the money and experience of knowing how dungeons work. Haha!

In terms of dungeons, I suggest working your way up (Starting at AC), so you get an understanding on how the dungeon lifestyle works. It may be brutal if you're not familiar with it, but the main idea is to get a comprehension overview so next time, you can work at it faster.

Edited by Corteaz, 08 April 2013 - 07:10 AM.


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:13 AM

Dailies, dungeons, gathering everything, completing maps, salvaging exotics or rares for ecto and selling on the trading post, and just selling things in general.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:31 AM

Unless you're gambling for an Abyss dye, I've found decent bank in selling all the unidentified dyes I've come across.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:47 AM

View PostDasviidonja, on 08 April 2013 - 06:57 AM, said:

That sounds an awful lot like GRIND!
No, that's just listing out a few activities that tend to give more gold.

This is grind :
Mine ori, mine ori, mine, mine, mine...
Or
Do boss events, boss events, boss events, events events events...
Or
Fractals, fractals, fractals, fractals....
Or
CoF1, CoF1, CoF1, CoF1, CoF1...

Having one most efficient way to make gold out of numerous other venues does not suddenly mean it must be the only thing you have to do over and over and over and over and over and over to make gold.

But if you choose to do so, don't complain about grind.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:21 AM

Gem Store and your credit card according to Arena Net. :P

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:42 AM

View PostTrei, on 08 April 2013 - 09:47 AM, said:

No, that's just listing out a few activities that tend to give more gold.

This is grind :
Mine ori, mine ori, mine, mine, mine...
Or
Do boss events, boss events, boss events, events events events...
Or
Fractals, fractals, fractals, fractals....
Or
CoF1, CoF1, CoF1, CoF1, CoF1...

Having one most efficient way to make gold out of numerous other venues does not suddenly mean it must be the only thing you have to do over and over and over and over and over and over to make gold.

But if you choose to do so, don't complain about grind.

To me that list ^ is just GRIND with a different name or area. You're still grinding for one thing GOLD. Grind is grind I don't care how many different ways  you do it.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:23 AM

View PostDasviidonja, on 10 April 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

To me that list ^ is just GRIND with a different name or area. You're still grinding for one thing GOLD. Grind is grind I don't care how many different ways  you do it.

That's pretty much what GW2 is most of the time, gold wars 2. You can thank the gem store and trading post for that.

Edited by Eon Lilu, 10 April 2013 - 01:23 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:31 AM

you have to be lucky. (dead serious)

the idiots at arenanet made it so only the lucky people who get exotic drops can make over 10g

other than that... farm farm farm farm farm farm farm farm farm farm farm

good luck

Edited by I'm Squirrel, 10 April 2013 - 01:31 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:41 AM

You make gold here the same way as in GW1 and all other MMOs.

Step 1: Find something worth gold.
Step 2: Create a useful farming build, here that typically means magic find.
Step 3: Abandon all hope of a social life.
Step 4: Farm all day, every day.
Step 5: Profit.
Step 6: Struggle to never face the reality of what you have become.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:01 AM

Just find a dungeon with armour that you like and farm it. Save all karma drops. Once you got enough dungeon tokens for the armour use a karma booster and turn in all karma bottles. You should now have exotic dungeon armour and rare cultural weapons. Just transmute the weapons with an exotic. You should also have a ton of gold from doing the dungeon so many times so use that money to buy everything else you need for your set.

It's what I did at least. As long as you're not doing high level dungeons like fractals your stats don't really matter too much. You'll occasionally find some people that want to do speed runs or are a bit uptight about perfect gear/builds. Just ignore them and find another group.

Use this site to find groups.
http://gw2lfg.com/

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:05 AM

You can buy yourself a full set of green gear for a few silver per piece on the trading post, so you can start there.
If you enjoy dungeons, go for those, even with all my gear broken the worse repair bill I've had was around 11 silver iirc. You should be coming out of dungeons with a profit.
Gather when ever you see stuff, having a big collection of mats is always useful in case you want to craft something, and you can sell the higher stuff when your bank gets full.
Selling blues and greens worth more then 90c to a vendor is generally a good idea. Salvage them if they are worth less (I just use basic salvage kits).
Sell yellows and oranges on the Trading Post. Yellows will net you at least 20silver each, and can be reliably acquired by defeating world bosses. http://guildwarstemp...om/dragontimer/ Try here to find the boss timers (its not always reliable though). I check the site occasionally while playing and will hop by a boss if I noticed it's up and feel like it.


Money in guild wars 2 comes quiet easily, so long as you're actually doing something in game. Even money from normal events add up  nicely. I haven't played much the past week due to end of term projects/exams, but managed to make around 10gold just doing my daily, a few odd events and dungeons, and a boss event every day or two.
Combined with the fact that there isn't a huge use for money because of all the tokens, it surprises me when people complain they are poor. Most gold complaints arise from the fact that market prices in GW2 are too stable for most people to do the easier get rich quick strategies, which frustrates them and makes them jump to "it's all grind!".

Edited by Arewn, 10 April 2013 - 02:07 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:07 AM

Check out profitable recipes at guildwarstrade.com or gw2spidy.com

Those sites will also give you info about what is profitable to flip on the TP.

Convert Skill points to gold crafting mats: http://eggbaron.blog...old-update.html

Run CoF a thousand times. Farm Orr all day.

Or, play the game however you like and make sure you put what is more profitable on the trader and sell the rest to the merch.

Salvage all 68+ level gold items for ectos if they don't go for the same price as ectos on the trader.

Making gold isn't as hard as people thing it is. The first thing you should do is sell all the materials you have hanging around in your bank that you don't need.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:10 AM

View PostDasviidonja, on 10 April 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

To me that list ^ is just GRIND with a different name or area. You're still grinding for one thing GOLD. Grind is grind I don't care how many different ways  you do it.
Then the only way for a game to not have what you call "grind"... Is to not have currency at all, and every possible reward acquirable just by doing their corresponding content once each.



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:12 AM

View PostArewn, on 10 April 2013 - 02:05 AM, said:

Most gold complaints arise from the fact that market prices in GW2 are too stable for most people to do the easier get rich quick strategies, which frustrates them and makes them jump to "it's all grind!".
I don't think most people are looking to game the TP to make money.

I'm sure they want to make gold as a byproduct of playing the game.

The best system I've found for this is a healthy alt community, but invariably casuals deride a healthy alt community as "hardcore twinking."

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:17 AM

View PostArewn, on 10 April 2013 - 02:05 AM, said:

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I'm not getting into the grind discussion. Been there done that, got the t-shirt.

But, I agree that gold really isn't that important in this game. There are a ton of ways to exotics, which is as good as you need to get. Karma goes a long way. Actually, I'm upset that gold isn't a more viable solution to get a lot of things in this game.

That being said, the rewards of actually getting some pretty sweet gear just by doing missions in GW1 was nice and it would be nice if you were well rewarded for your efforts in this game as well, at least as it relates to completing your storyline.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:34 AM

View PostMillimidget, on 10 April 2013 - 02:12 AM, said:

I don't think most people are looking to game the TP to make money.

I'm sure they want to make gold as a byproduct of playing the game.

The best system I've found for this is a healthy alt community, but invariably casuals deride a healthy alt community as "hardcore twinking."
But, as I was trying to illustrate in my previous post, you DO make gold as a byproduct of playing the game. Quiet profitably in fact, all of your gold needs are fulfilled by it +extra for savings. Just not the economy breaking large amount some people want (or need for the more expensive aesthetics such as legendaries).

In my experience, people who want to make gold just want to make gold, regardless of venue. That's why there's the CoF farmers, and that's why it's common to game the market, which isn't as easy in GW2 and as such frustrating for these people.

View PostEl Duderino, on 10 April 2013 - 02:17 AM, said:

I'm not getting into the grind discussion. Been there done that, got the t-shirt.

But, I agree that gold really isn't that important in this game. There are a ton of ways to exotics, which is as good as you need to get. Karma goes a long way. Actually, I'm upset that gold isn't a more viable solution to get a lot of things in this game.

That being said, the rewards of actually getting some pretty sweet gear just by doing missions in GW1 was nice and it would be nice if you were well rewarded for your efforts in this game as well, at least as it relates to completing your storyline.
I love that t-shirt =D
Agreed that the game could do for some unique rewards from a wider array of specific venues or missions of some sort.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:49 AM

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That sounds an awful lot like GRIND!

Dailies consist of tasks you will naturally do while playing, events are a big part of the game. If you consider such things grind then what exactly would you do in game? Playing the games content is not grind.

It's surprising you only have blue gear at 80 considering the personal story rewards and easy to get masterwork karma gear.

If you are purely after money, sell all the materials you have and convert laurels to either dye or t6 mats and sell those. You could be sitting on a lot of gold without knowing it.

Before doing dungeons you will want to at least improve your gear a little. Masterwork should help a lot. Keep in mind dungeons give rare armour for less tokens which is a good stopgap till you can get your exotics. Once the expense of gearing a character is sorted, money should pile up easily (unless you are an alcoholic of course, then gearing is quite a drain on money)

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:28 AM

I've been doing FotM and CoF explorable with guildies.  Even without my MF gear, I can still make about 1 gold per run.  As a fresh 80, I feel this is a decent start, so I suggest beginning there.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:45 AM

View PostTrei, on 10 April 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

Then the only way for a game to not have what you call "grind"... Is to not have currency at all, and every possible reward acquirable just by doing their corresponding content once each.

Well you could still have currency to be able to by gear as the story rolls along like a Diablo II could even have a gambler type guy who you could trade coin for a chance to win some exotic or set gear.

But, basically you are right in all these MMO's after one has experienced the story and the side quest content repeating it for GOLD is GRIND to me. You're just farming (another name for GRIND) the same areas over n over and you are no longer accomplishing a storyline or adventure. You're just zombieing the content day by day even some have said it themselves doing dailies and other mundane repeats of the same area for what? Some piece of exotic or rare gear that has no better stats than something you can get on the mainland? That to me that just becomes VANITY GRIND and it's really just a waste of time when there's no story or new content to discover or do. Repeating events is ok and might be the only thing that doesn't feel like GRIND but even those get old after a few times.

I've been playing MMO's since 1998 so I've seen pretty much all of it in every game. They all become just a repetitive GRIND after you've completed the storyline and seen all the content. Everquest is about the only one that I have not seen all the content but it has like 18 expansions now so it does keep the patrons happy even though we called it GRINDQUEST for many years.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:53 AM

View PostTrei, on 10 April 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

Then the only way for a game to not have what you call "grind"... Is to not have currency at all, and every possible reward acquirable just by doing their corresponding content once each.
I think people take issue with the fact that every non-dungeon "prestige" item requires gold-grinding rather than personal ability to get.
That's by design. For ANet to make $$$.

It's a system I'd excuse in a F2P game; but not a B2P.
I'd rather GW2 be a monthly-fee so it wouldn't have to rely on nickel-and-diming players to make revenue after the box purchase.
The global TP and focus on gold generation to get prestige items has irrepairably damaged the integrity of the game.

Edited by Soki, 10 April 2013 - 11:54 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:27 PM

View PostTony, on 08 April 2013 - 12:24 AM, said:

Hello fellow Guild Wars 2 Guru members,

I have recently leveled my first level 80 warrior and I have around 1.3g and I haven't really gained any gold at all. What should I do to start? Should I just do dungeons? (I only have blue gear). Should I farm areas? (Sort of boring)

What should I do?

Thank you very much for any suggestions in advance! It is very much appreciated!

It basically goes like this once you reach 80...GRIND & SELL GRIND & SELL GRIND & SELL. Where you grind of course makes the difference in only the area you grind in.

So did you complete every heart? Did you complete every event at least once? did you finish your personal story? Did you explore the entire maps before coming to the GRINDING part of the game? If you didn't I would suggest doing that as you'll obtain a lot more coin than you have now an enjoy the game a little longer.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:23 PM

View PostSoki, on 10 April 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

...It's a system I'd excuse in a F2P game; but not a B2P.
I'd rather GW2 be a monthly-fee so it wouldn't have to rely on nickel-and-diming players to make revenue after the box purchase.
The global TP and focus on gold generation to get prestige items has irrepairably damaged the integrity of the game.
What you call nickel-and-diming, I consider options and additions I can choose not to have or pay for.

You may want say more character and bank slots, which is basically what you get in other subscription-based games seemingly for "free", but is really paid for with your subscription.

I don't.
I do not want to pay subscription for a package deal of features I neither need nor want, just because you want them.

Then again, maybe Anet should allow players to pay subscription if they really want to.
I am sure a stable revenue source would do the company and the game a lot of good.

It might very well be the next evolution in MMO revenue models even, by offering a hybrid option.

As long as I don't need to.
I will pay for only the things I do want.




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