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#1 StaplerPie

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:58 PM

It seems to me like the only way to get the massive amounts of gold needed for a legendary is to play the Trading Post.  By "playing the TP", I mean either flipping items, investing and then selling, or doing some trick to convert one item into a more valuable one, like back when it was possible to buy lvl 80 rares for much less than the price of an ecto.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:00 PM

It is possible, BUT it will take a long time.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:05 PM

I got everything for my legendary, aside from the precursor. Most of the mats are drops or mystic toilet... execpt powerfull blood and corrupted lodestone, i brought most of them on the trading post. And i started gathering about 1 month after release.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:12 PM

I got Bolt, and the amount of money I got "playing" the tp was probably under a gold.

Probably took me 2 months to get, and that includes the price of the Charged Lodestones, which I farmed Orr for a week or so to get.

It's possible, but it'll take a while.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:28 PM

View PostKhrushchev, on 09 April 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

I got Bolt, and the amount of money I got "playing" the tp was probably under a gold.

Probably took me 2 months to get, and that includes the price of the Charged Lodestones, which I farmed Orr for a week or so to get.

It's possible, but it'll take a while.

Where did you get the gold to buy the precursor?  Also, you really got all your charged lodestone from farming lightning elementals?

View PostKitanul, on 09 April 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

I got everything for my legendary, aside from the precursor. Most of the mats are drops or mystic toilet... execpt powerfull blood and corrupted lodestone, i brought most of them on the trading post. And i started gathering about 1 month after release.

So you bought your precursor and powerful blood.  Did you also buy the lodestones?  Where did you get the 500+ gold for the precursor, etc.?

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:55 PM

Nop sorry, i dont have the precursor yet, its the only thing missing. and im at 12 gold at the moment. I did buy around 150 powerfull blood and 80 corrupted lodestones.
Once i got to 100 gold, i started placing bids on the trading post to buy various t6 mats, core/lodestone, all in small number from time to time.
I got my money farming ori and wood almost everyday, dungeon 2-3 time a week and doing world boss since the big patch. I do jormag almost everyday.... for the past 3-4 months in hope to loot my precursor.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:17 PM

View PostStaplerPie, on 09 April 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

Where did you get the gold to buy the precursor?  Also, you really got all your charged lodestone from farming lightning elementals?

I tossed exotics into the Mystic Forge for my precursor, it cost under 100 gold, but the extra 300 gold for straight out buying the precursor at it's prices when I was going for it would have only been a matter of time (a few weeks, at the rate I was getting my Lodestones)

Also, for the love of God do not farm Air Elementals for Charged Cores, it's much more cost efficient to farm the tunnel in Cursed Shore for money with which to buy Charged Lodestones, or at least that's how I did it.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:32 PM

It is possible...  However, either massive grind time or luck (RNG probability) is needed.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:39 AM

everything on the trading post is provided by players.

therefore, everything on the trading post can be acquired by players.

therefore, it is possible to get a legendary without using the trading post.

if you are saying that you do not know how it is possible to acquire that much money in a reasonable span of time, well, i would personally be surprised if there were no guides to making gold in this game, though I haven't personally looked.

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https://www.google.c...rs 2 gold guide

Edited by Kerrath, 10 April 2013 - 03:41 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:44 AM

It's definitely possible, but as others have said, it'll take a while.

It's better approached as a project you do in bits and pieces. As you're completing maps and doing dungeons, keep all those t6 materials and whatever relevant lodestones you find, salvage rares for ectos, save up mystic coins from dailies/monthlies, etc.

Doing this, along with probably some farming for lodestones and maybe karma if need be, it should take around 2 months to pile it all up. Don't try to rush into a legendary and focus solely on it, or you'll get lost in the daunting undertaking (unless you have no fear of mind numbing farming). Just get it done in pieces as you're doing other things, and it'll come together eventually.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 07:02 AM

I see my LW as a long-term project and don't even bother farming for it. One day, I'll have everything I need and I'll simply craft one then, without feeling exhausted or fed up. Farming ruins my game.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 07:48 AM

A legendary is around USD1k. Buy that amount of gems, convert to gold and buy off the TP.

How much time spent to earn USD1k ?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:02 AM

I don't know about this, but I do agree about something my friends kept telling me about the precursors and its the price... Its a huge problem and its been talked in hundreds, if not thousands of forum pages around the world. The price is ridiculous, the RNG play is stupid. Let's say dusk. For the current player price range 600-750g. You could probably come out there with almost the whole "mist weapon" set with that kind of money. You could buy 4 if not 5 toons with full t3 with that kind of money. (The idea is with that money you could buy several skin, then just only one fancy skin with some fancy particle)

When Karka event was released and people claimed to get precursors out from that chests (like very high chance), the price was ok. I mean Dawn at that given time was 180-200g. That's acceptable compared to what it is now.

Arenanet has plenty of time mentioned of this so called Scavange hunting for precurors, but so far its all about playing RNG or farming PVE content till your fingers bleed. (mainly spam CoF for cash).

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:27 AM

View Postben911993, on 10 April 2013 - 03:44 AM, said:

It's better approached as a project you do in bits and pieces.... Don't try to rush into a legendary and focus solely on it, or you'll get lost in the daunting undertaking (unless you have no fear of mind numbing farming). Just get it done in pieces as you're doing other things, and it'll come together eventually.

This is the best advice if you want a leg. weapon I think.

I didn't play the TP on principle, as I see doing so as just ripping off other players, so I obtained ingredients one part at a time, first a stack of silver doubloons, then lodestones, then mats..... lastly the precursor.

I will/would not buy a precursor from the tp for the same reason as above, so I used level 80 exotics and got mine from the forge after about a dozen tries.

All this is just from money gained while playing 6 different professions, random dungeons, fractals, Orr farming, some WvW on the side, crafting rares for ectos, just playing the game.

Don't empty your bank every time you buy stuff either, leave some to splash out on, I have slowly outfitted my characters with exotic and ascended gear, perfected their looks, bought T-stones, broomsticks, spare storage slots, and I have spent no real money but the original purchase price of the game, have had no awesome random drops worth 100s gold and have not excessively farmed anything, just rotated what I did for fun.

It is very possible with a few hours a day, 4 or 5 days a week to get a legendary casually, as I have found.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:38 AM

View Postchullster, on 10 April 2013 - 09:27 AM, said:

It is very possible with a few hours a day, 4 or 5 days a week to get a legendary casually, as I have found.

1. A few hours per day, most days of the week isn't casual. You're putting in about the number of hours in a day that actual casual players put in in a week.
2. "A dozen tries" to get the precursor is in NO way representative of what the average player will go through.

And this showcases the problem superbly: IF you get insanely lucky, getting a legendary requires a reasonable investment of resources.
Most player will never get that lucky.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:10 AM

View PostRitualist, on 10 April 2013 - 09:38 AM, said:

1. A few hours per day, most days of the week isn't casual. You're putting in about the number of hours in a day that actual casual players put in in a week.
2. "A dozen tries" to get the precursor is in NO way representative of what the average player will go through.

And this showcases the problem superbly: IF you get insanely lucky, getting a legendary requires a reasonable investment of resources.
Most player will never get that lucky.

We have different opinions then on what we'd call casual, to me 4-5 hours a week to me is virtually not playing the game, with too large a gap in between to even remember what you did last time, so I wouldn't bother even playing this game.

I gambled in the forge, a dozen time with exotics, not rares which most people seem to use. I read it was the highest probability, so why anyone who actually wants a precursor would NOT use exotics is beyond me. Getting one from rares just means you were more lucky, I just wanted one and used the method with the best chance rather than the cheapest.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:31 PM

View Postthis a pointed, on 09 April 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

It is possible, BUT it will take a long time.

Wouldn't you think that's why they are called Legendary? I'm just happy there is content that takes a longgggggggggggggg time to get. What's the use of playing if you can get everything in a month or even a year?

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And this showcases the problem superbly: IF you get insanely lucky, getting a legendary requires a reasonable investment of resources.
Most player will never get that lucky.


So....most players shouldn't have everything in the game. There should be some things that only the hardcore can accomplish so as to have something for everyone. Casuals already have an easy game of it getting to level 80 now they want every piece of loot in the game easy too? lmao

Edited by Dasviidonja, 10 April 2013 - 12:34 PM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:43 PM

you could just buy gems and convert them to gold. . . .

you wont have to "play" the TP

Edited by Dasryn, 10 April 2013 - 12:46 PM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:01 PM

Of course it is - you can get it as a drop.

Hurr durr.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:18 PM

View PostDasviidonja, on 10 April 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

So....most players shouldn't have everything in the game. There should be some things that only the hardcore can accomplish so as to have something for everyone. Casuals already have an easy game of it getting to level 80 now they want every piece of loot in the game easy too? lmao


My bad, what I meant with "most players" was most players that go for a legendary.
What that would mean is:
1. most players aren't hardcore
2. most players out of the hardcore will never get that lucky

So what you end up with is a situation where not only will the huge majority of all players not have these items, the majority of the hardcore will have issues getting them.
With that in mind, the point of suggesting a change isn't in everyone getting it - the idea is in making it less hardcore for the hardcore.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

Who else feels legendary precursors should also be claimed from a quest?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:01 PM

You could always max out a credit card.  Buy gems with cash, sell them for gold, buy your legendary.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:07 PM

View PostBonana, on 10 April 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

Who else feels legendary precursors should also be claimed from a quest?

More like GW1. If you wanted a specific green (unique) you killed the unique owner of said weapon until they coughed it up.

I'm not sure that is in the spirit of anti farming nor is farming items to dump in mystic toilet. But a quest killing 10 different champions, a couple of jp's, go to these obscure places etc sounds more along the lines of the manifesto and enjoyably challenging game play.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 06:33 PM

View PostDasviidonja, on 10 April 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

Wouldn't you think that's why they are called Legendary? I'm just happy there is content that takes a longgggggggggggggg time to get. What's the use of playing if you can get everything in a month or even a year?

Did I say I want to get everything without spending time? LOL.
However, I think those "legendary's" arent really legendary at all. All it takes to get one is a long boring and EASY grind.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 07:14 PM

Legendaries hold no where near their awe and wonder as they once did. I see a player with one now and think "Well he buys gems", even if they don't.
Since you can buy them from the TP, it kind of makes them less what they should be. They should be account bound, or make new Legendary legendaries, similar to the one that takes 2 legendaries to make.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:52 AM

View PostRitualist, on 10 April 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

My bad, what I meant with "most players" was most players that go for a legendary.
What that would mean is:
1. most players aren't hardcore
2. most players out of the hardcore will never get that lucky

So what you end up with is a situation where not only will the huge majority of all players not have these items, the majority of the hardcore will have issues getting them.
With that in mind, the point of suggesting a change isn't in everyone getting it - the idea is in making it less hardcore for the hardcore.

Ok I can accept that. Just as long as some things remain hard and far away.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:25 AM

i see more and more players with legendaries every day.  weapons like kudzu look awe inspiring but the Dawn, Sunrise and Twilight swords are the same thing with different colors.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:37 PM

It's possible, I think I've been working on mine for a little over a month now, Still missing a few T6 stacks, the ectos, lodestones and the precursor itself. It's a long way cause I have to get the hardest bits but I'm in no rush *comes when it comes*.

It isn't stronger than the exotic counterpart so I have nothing to rush for.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:45 AM

Yes it's possible. I'm down to my precursor. I "played" the tp a little bit to make my thief's Wintersbark, but after that I started fresh. 2 months of regular play and I noticed I had quite a few molten lodes and cores from fractals, along with a significant sum of the t6 materials. I simply played the way I normally did, sold my t6 mats (because I can farm them easily) to make my other gifts, got a few more lodes and mats from making clovers (i had karma, ectos and coins saved up), then started farming those t6's. It's not all that hard if you have the time to do it. I do. I won't, soon, so I'm glad I'm down to RNG and I can wait until it drops for me or I get a lucky pull in the forge.

It doesn't hurt that the one I'm after is Juggernaut, for my Guardian, and I already have a fractal hammer which is quite nice and gets frequent compliments.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 06:14 AM

You can easily 75% your legendary by playing the game. The precursor is the problem, boils down to pure luck or a heavy grind for the sought after ones.




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