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#1 xennas

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:56 PM

Why is almost no one using lfg? I dont get it alot of people said they  wanted it .

#2 ZidaneOrtef

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:08 PM

I'm gonna go with a large part of the players don't even know it's up they posted that it was in beta, then opened up for a few more, then bam, everyone but no announcement. People are using it groups fill fast and disappear just as quick as they are posted.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:09 PM

Because it took so long for Anet to put it out, people have gotten used to finding other ways to form parties, such as asking guilds, friends, using gw2lfg.com, or just showing up and barging in.
Also, I'm not sure, but it might still be restricted to some chunk of the population. Not sure if it's out for all players just yet.

Just give it some time, people will get used to using it.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:18 PM

Give them a chance to use it. Old habits die hard.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:23 PM

Because people, like myself, are so used to playing solo by now.  We got used to doing that without the LFG tool for more than a year now.

#6 Darkobra

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:31 PM

Tequatl. That's where everyone is. People are using it but only the people not wanting to wait around and do dungeons. That number is increasingly smaller with every update right now.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:34 PM

Because it's just out... how many people do you actually expect to read patchnotes? :P

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:36 PM

I don't think a lot of people know. They aren't notified about it, and it's not exactly in the most obvious place.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:38 PM

1) Everyone is hanging out at tequila the sundried.
2) It's still in the beta rollout phases, if the prediction are correct, about 35% of players have access to it now (slight exponential growth over a week by 5%, 15%, 35%, 50%, etc.)
3) Players have not yet found it.
4) It's still buggy, and not always functional.

Give it a week, maybe 2.  I already see it being used more and more each day.
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:59 PM

It's out of beta?  I checked it on Tues and it wasn't available to me.  Haven't checked since.

That said, if ANet is even going to notify people when they have access to it, why would be bother to continuously check?

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:16 PM

I just got access to it today, used it, and it worked like a charm.  Found a 5th for a couple dungeon runs in seconds.  And not on a super popular dungeon either.

But I would suspect its a combination of people not having access to it, the Taco events and people just used to not having a LFG tool.  Look at it this way, at least we got a LFG tool and it only took them a year.  Some of the other MMOs I've played have been out for years and years and either don't have one or are just implementing it.  Should it have been in the game from the beginning? Sure. Am I glad that its making its entrance now? Yep, I think it will be useful.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:19 PM

There do not seem to be a lot of listings yet, but they seem to fill fast.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:56 PM

I have used it twice so far. Once for an AC explorable run and another for a CM story mode run.

It works fine and as Iujate stated, the groups fill very fast. There is no request for invite for the group. As soon as you click the 'Join' button you're in the group.

I am happy it has been added now unlike GW1's Embark Beach which was added 7 years too late.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:10 PM

View PostDom, on 21 September 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

I have used it twice so far. Once for an AC explorable run and another for a CM story mode run.

It works fine and as Iujate stated, the groups fill very fast. There is no request for invite for the group. As soon as you click the 'Join' button you're in the group.

I am happy it has been added now unlike GW1's Embark Beach which was added 7 years too late.
But it still had umm LFG too tho not like Embark Beach.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:17 PM

I hardly ever see listings, but my groups instantly fill up as soon as I post.  People are using it.  This doesn't really shock me since I know how lazy the average player seems to be.  Why spend 5 seconds on a listing when you could wait 10 minutes for someone else to eventually do it so all you have to do is click the join button? ;)

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:18 PM

View Postxennas, on 21 September 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

Why is almost no one using lfg? I dont get it alot of people said they  wanted it .

I want to do Path 3 of the Citadel of Flame.

No one wants to do it.

NO ONE.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:28 PM

View PostStormDragonZ, on 21 September 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:

I want to do Path 3 of the Citadel of Flame.

No one wants to do it.

NO ONE.

I guess that makes you a hipster. well done.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:41 PM

Im not using LFG anymore because ive been in groups where people dont speak english and dont know how to do dungeon paths. Ive been in groups advertising for only lvl 80 damage builds and got lvl 30s and pvt warriors. I was in a group with the BEST MESMER EVER COF P1 OMG SPEEDRUN GOLD GOLD GOLD (that was the stupid advertisement which i didnt read all the way) and turned out he was the worst mesmer ever. Not a very good tool, too few restrictions and too small to see the full ads quickly

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:37 AM

If I'm brutally honest I'm an utter noob to dungeons and organised group content. I thought the lfg tool would be able to help my friend and I team up with some people who could help us learn a thing or two. But it seems all the people who know what they are doing have specific paths they want to take and really don't want to be held back by a couple of complete noobs. So all that ends up happening is we end up finding another group of people who are just as clueless and we progress nowhere.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 01:17 PM

Everyone was clueless when they started. It's only through becoming familiar with the fight that we can see how things are done and how they're not done.

Also, read the chat and communicate. You have no idea how many people I've told how to do something that they're obviously clueless with and they still run in aimlessly. Little things like "Use the shield on the cannons to reflect the poison." Longest 2 hours of my life.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 08:55 PM

View PostRatDogManthing, on 22 September 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

If I'm brutally honest I'm an utter noob to dungeons and organised group content. I thought the lfg tool would be able to help my friend and I team up with some people who could help us learn a thing or two. But it seems all the people who know what they are doing have specific paths they want to take and really don't want to be held back by a couple of complete noobs. So all that ends up happening is we end up finding another group of people who are just as clueless and we progress nowhere.

everyone started out that way, I was the very first one in my guild to do a dungeon at all when the game first released, and let me tell you my guild runs thereafter were horrible for a while, we had to learn the mechanics for every dungeon and every path and now our runs are smooth, it takes time and you have to be willing to put the effort in

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 05:42 PM

View PostDarkobra, on 22 September 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

Everyone was clueless when they started. It's only through becoming familiar with the fight that we can see how things are done and how they're not done.

Also, read the chat and communicate. You have no idea how many people I've told how to do something that they're obviously clueless with and they still run in aimlessly. Little things like "Use the shield on the cannons to reflect the poison." Longest 2 hours of my life.

Agreed. I think looking at the LFG tool as a way to get hand held through dungeons by experienced groups isn't something that should be expected. That is what guilds are for.

If you don't want to be bothered using a guild group and decide to PUG dungeons, then either get ready to keep up with what the other team is doing and "wing it" or do some searching online first and get an idea of the dungeon.

My first couple dungeon runs I did with PUGs, I had GW2Wiki open and at least had in idea of what was happening.

Although, to be honest, that does present another can of worms - but it would be nice if the dungeons weren't made so that if you don't know all the little exploits, you look like a total noob. But, that is a topic for another thread.

#23 DonZardeone

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 06:37 PM

I looked at it for 5 minutes and saw a lot of listings, maybe max 3-4 at a time. 3-4 seems low but these listings get filled up FAST. Once filled they disappear so this may be a case of survivorship bias.

People see the listings that are up now and they don't see the many listings that got filled already, making it look as if there are only a few.

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Survivorship bias is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that "survived" some process and inadvertently overlooking those that did not because of their lack of visibility.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:30 PM

View PostEl Duderino, on 23 September 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

Agreed. I think looking at the LFG tool as a way to get hand held through dungeons by experienced groups isn't something that should be expected. That is what guilds are for.

If you don't want to be bothered using a guild group and decide to PUG dungeons, then either get ready to keep up with what the other team is doing and "wing it" or do some searching online first and get an idea of the dungeon.

My first couple dungeon runs I did with PUGs, I had GW2Wiki open and at least had in idea of what was happening.

Although, to be honest, that does present another can of worms - but it would be nice if the dungeons weren't made so that if you don't know all the little exploits, you look like a total noob. But, that is a topic for another thread.

Or, you know, build an in-game tool that provides dungeon guides that are basically Word of God from the developers as opposed to the suppositions, theories and wiki-edits of the player-base lacking even a basic tools for analyzing a fight via the combat log.

But that would be silly!
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:42 PM

Didn't even know it was available. ArenaNet was so messy with it's launch, I remember they said it was available as a beta, but it was offline for me soo.. now I just logged in and it's available. hundreds of players probably don't even know it's an in-game feature.

A few pet peeves, parties should just be completely anonymous, and have a queue. Not labels everywhere. Christ, you can do the organization before you queue in the dungeon. The way ArenaNet does it just adds for more discrimination, which the game REALLY DOES NOT NEED AT THIS TIME. Pretty sick of all this "LFG FULL BEZERKERS NECRO" bull****.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:03 PM

It's like a recurring nightmare back from beyond the grave, a grave also known as Guild Wars 1. We had a LFG tool back then and it was pretty crummy too. And since ArenaNet is in denial regarding the Holy Trinity, people ask for specific classes that fill a stereotyped role. Why can't we just call Warriors "Nukes On Legs", Guardians "Sponge Bobs" and "Panzer Tanks", and Mesmers "Buff Bots" and call it a day?

Why do they continue with this charade is beyond me.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:07 PM

View PostDesild, on 23 September 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Why can't we just call Warriors "Nukes On Legs", Guardians "Sponge Bobs" and "Panzer Tanks", and Mesmers "Buff Bots" and call it a day?


Only if we can call Necromancers "Friends With Benefits".

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:09 PM

Does that make rangers the "Uncle nobody talks about"?

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:18 PM

We used this yesterday.  Needed 2 more for SE path 1, and had the group filled in about 15 seconds.  That would seem to indicate that LFG is working pretty well for popular content.  And of course, once the group is filled, it's removed, so there's not much evidence left to show players that the LFG tool is even being used.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 06:57 AM

Been using it a few times and while the teams do fill up fast, I couldn't help to notice that their average quality was far below what I usually got through the lfg website. I believe this is due to the lack of filtering options.

A description alone simply isn't enough, people don't bother reading, so to be able to set additional tags (in/experienced, minimum AP, etc.) would be most welcome.




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