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#1 MazingerZ

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:02 PM



The real gold is in the comments.

Edited by MazingerZ, 16 December 2013 - 10:12 PM.

It's okay to enjoy crap if you're willing to admit it's crap.
Every patch is like ArenaNet walking out onto the stage of the International Don't Kitten Up Championship, and then proceeding to shiv itself in the stomach 30 times while screaming "IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD! IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!"

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:39 PM

Oh boy.

I guess it's cute and nice to have these kinds of marketing tricks. That doesn't mean I didn't go through a horrible cringing seizure.

Good for Anet, if this campaign was a success. I think.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:39 PM

It just made me smile a bit. =) Just my opinion.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:43 PM

Yeah, yeah. Let me know when the developers get around to taking the "we're going to try to stop sucking at our jobs" oath.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:06 PM

Hypocrite much?

I know it's just a sad continuation of the start of the campaign but I cannot believe they still marketing the exact opposite of what we have in the game. That's just...I have no words for it. Also shitting on a lot of design topics that are two-sided: They can be bad but they can also be very strong points for games if done right (running to npc's, trinity, just for example).

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:32 PM

This is my favorite comment so far:

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Wait did they actually say that they are against poorly designed, grindy, and extortionist games in this video with a straight face? Five minutes looking at the lack of a UI will tell you how far behind those sub fee and even many free 2 play games this title is, likewise the sheer amount of grind it will take any new player to grind out the newly added ascended gear tier (something they promised not to do btw), And the extortionistic system they use in their process of adding expensive items to the store which all are overpriced and usually use the same templates as in game armors. This is a mockery of the truth about this game, and anyone who believes this hype is deserving of losing their money to these jokers who aren't serious about managing their title with honesty or integrity.

Sot sure about that whole UI part, but the rest is spot on.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:49 PM

Lol sorry but ♥♥♥♥ this video.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 12:44 AM

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I feel second-hand embarrassment.

That about sums it up for me.

Actually now that I think about it's pretty scummy having gamers both embarrass themselves and mud-sling your competition for you. :/

Edited by Featherman, 17 December 2013 - 05:31 AM.


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 08:09 AM

View PostFeatherman, on 17 December 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

That about sums it up for me.

Actually now that I think about it's pretty scummy having gamers both embarrass themselves and mud-sling your competition for you. :/

You make a very good point, I didn't thought about that before.

Edited by Feathermoore, 18 December 2013 - 02:04 PM.
Removed response to flame bait


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 10:13 AM

Dear god that video is so bad. If I saw that as a potential new player I would be like, why the ♥♥♥♥ would I wanna play this game. Then I'd spend 10 seconds thinking about how cringe worthy some of the comments were and after that I would move on and never consider gw2 again.

I guess if that's what you were going for Anet then gg.

Edited by Senatic, 17 December 2013 - 10:17 AM.


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostEl Duderino, on 16 December 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

This is my favorite comment so far:

Sot sure about that whole UI part, but the rest is spot on.
I think the bad UI part is about the lack of customizability and add-ons.

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I would by no means like an UI that looked like above, but I appreciate the fact that it is possible to make.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 12:44 PM

Congratulation to all the people who participated in the Great MMO Migration. Me think all of them are getting a free copy of Guild Wars 2.

If you search youtube for GW2 great mmo migration, the results only hit 2700+

hope to see them in game! Tarnished Coast welcomes you!

I watched some of the video and found them to be very interesting! some of the people are very good at delivery the oath, they all look to be having lots of fun. Some even have props.


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 01:07 PM

View Postraspberry jam, on 17 December 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

I think the bad UI part is about the lack of customizability and add-ons.

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I would by no means like an UI that looked like above, but I appreciate the fact that it is possible to make.
Definitely agree. It is becoming so boring that not only they don't develop true QoL things like this, but they also don't allow people to create addons.
Seriously, allow people to create addons for UI and bags/templates and everyone's happy ...

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 01:58 PM

I for one am glad of the minimalistic UI, I've actively moved away from games that have turned out to be just addon-fests in their so-called "endgame".

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:05 PM

View Postraspberry jam, on 17 December 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

I think the bad UI part is about the lack of customizability and add-ons.

I would by no means like an UI that looked like above, but I appreciate the fact that it is possible to make.

I understand that they wanted to make a game that had you focus on the game more than the UI, and I commend them for that effort. I do think being flexible enough to allow more UI addons isn't a bad thing - and should be commended in some cases. Although, I don't think GW1's UI was intrusive at all and not sure why the felt the need to take it further. Although, at this point, most of the UI is focused on achievements and dailies if I'm not mistaken? So, I think that is a telling sign of where the game has gone or is headed. I'd much rather my UI be focused on strategic things in combat.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:11 PM

The overall reaction's been interesting on sites reporting the video... IE: outside of the general confirmation bias areas.

The word "cringe" comes up pretty frequently, even amongst people who go "I like GW2, but..."

There are people posting about how much of the oath flies in the face of the reality of GW2.

A lot of people commenting on how it looks like cult activity (I saw someone compare it to a Scientology promotion) and ArenaNet trying to propagate fanaticism.  I find it silly because anyone would swear any non-legally binding oath if got them something, but that's the impression people are walking away from the video with.

Even in the confirmation bias area of Reddit, the video didn't go very high.  One post got 535 net votes about the 'we are making our writers do programming' and the video got 12.

Also this

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Thanks for your participation on the Guild Wars 2 Great MMO Migration Contest.

You did not win the original contest, but for your effort we want to grant you a free citizenship to the ever-changing world of Tyria, in the form of a FREE COPY of Guild Wars 2.

Below you'll find your unique serial code, which will allow you to register your free account and download the Guild Wars 2 Digital Heroic Edition from register.guildwars2.com. With no monthly subscription fee and a constantly changing online world, we hope that you'll enjoy being a citizen of Tyria!

So yeah...

Edited by MazingerZ, 17 December 2013 - 02:16 PM.

It's okay to enjoy crap if you're willing to admit it's crap.
Every patch is like ArenaNet walking out onto the stage of the International Don't Kitten Up Championship, and then proceeding to shiv itself in the stomach 30 times while screaming "IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD! IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!"

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:00 PM

View PostEl Duderino, on 17 December 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

I understand that they wanted to make a game that had you focus on the game more than the UI, and I commend them for that effort. I do think being flexible enough to allow more UI addons isn't a bad thing - and should be commended in some cases. Although, I don't think GW1's UI was intrusive at all and not sure why the felt the need to take it further. Although, at this point, most of the UI is focused on achievements and dailies if I'm not mistaken? So, I think that is a telling sign of where the game has gone or is headed. I'd much rather my UI be focused on strategic things in combat.

I'm slightly confused as to what is a "UI add-on". The only thing I ever had in gw1 was texmod for spirit radius and 50% markers on health bars. Is that a UI add-on?

UI point in hand, I'd be happy to see a little more flexibility with the UI. If I want to move my target's health bar somewhere less obtrusive than the top centre of the screen, I think ought to be able to. GW1 allowed you to move stuff around to your heart's content, and honestly, if the argument against is "pvp/esport", let's not kid ourselves, gw1 pvp was far better than gw2.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostAndemius, on 17 December 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

I'm slightly confused as to what is a "UI add-on". The only thing I ever had in gw1 was texmod for spirit radius and 50% markers on health bars. Is that a UI add-on?

UI point in hand, I'd be happy to see a little more flexibility with the UI. If I want to move my target's health bar somewhere less obtrusive than the top centre of the screen, I think ought to be able to. GW1 allowed you to move stuff around to your heart's content, and honestly, if the argument against is "pvp/esport", let's not kid ourselves, gw1 pvp was far better than gw2.

I think, and I'm not sure, that a UI addon would be different indicator things you can use to clutter up your screen. I don't think GW1 had many, if any at all, of these. But, i do understand that there are other games that may do this, as Raspberry showed.

Overall, I agree, I think PvP in GW1 was excellent and the UI wasn't very intrusive and was easy to manipulate to make it work for your screen.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:16 PM

View PostPariah, on 17 December 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

I for one am glad of the minimalistic UI, I've actively moved away from games that have turned out to be just addon-fests in their so-called "endgame".

Why would you even need Add-Ons allowed when the predecessor had an in-build UI-customisation in place?


View PostEl Duderino, on 17 December 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

I think, and I'm not sure, that a UI addon would be different indicator things you can use to clutter up your screen. I don't think GW1 had many, if any at all, of these. But, i do understand that there are other games that may do this, as Raspberry showed.

Overall, I agree, I think PvP in GW1 was excellent and the UI wasn't very intrusive and was easy to manipulate to make it work for your screen.

GW1 had some. And some made PvP worse and could are like cheating. Like an extended overview for all cast-bars of the oponents team. Makes Prot very easy I guess... That's exactly why AddOns shouldn't be allowed in a game. You can't ensure a equal playing ground in competetive conditions for all players because you will never be able to control the vast amount of Add Ons out there as well as they are in too many different places to have all people have the same "good" ones.

Edited by Miragee, 17 December 2013 - 03:22 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:34 PM

View PostMiragee, on 17 December 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

GW1 had some. And some made PvP worse and could are like cheating. Like an extended overview for all cast-bars of the oponents team. Makes Prot very easy I guess... That's exactly why AddOns shouldn't be allowed in a game. You can't ensure a equal playing ground in competetive conditions for all players because you will never be able to control the vast amount of Add Ons out there as well as they are in too many different places to have all people have the same "good" ones.

Lol, wish I would have known about them back in the day. I mained a Prot monk in most PvP.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostEl Duderino, on 17 December 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Lol, wish I would have known about them back in the day. I mained a Prot monk in most PvP.

Prot was actually a beautiful role because you had to have a really good overview over the whole fight in order to be good. Those tools just destroy it. And be glad to never knew and used it. It was not allowed (and a ban-able offense). The ingame software usually don't catch something like that but the community was largely against it. Reports were actually very effective back in the day. Not so much nowadays, sadly.

Edited by Miragee, 17 December 2013 - 03:46 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 05:11 PM

This is what tends to happen when you get real people (more importantly, real gamers) on camera.  Most PC (and console) MMO gamers I've met IRL just aren't that charismatic.  It strikes me as being rather amateurish, but it could be worse.

In a way, it's almost the polar opposite of the head-scratching "Our Time is Now" promo video (actors vs amateurs, professional camera-work in set scenes vs. ad-hoc hand cams in random locations), but neither one succeeds in promoting the game.

Edited by kalendraf, 17 December 2013 - 05:15 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 07:51 PM

Even ignoring the "selling points," the video is awful.  Horrible mismatch of unintelligible pratter from a horde of disinterested participants.

If this was the best of the entries, I hate to see the worst.

Edited by Mordakai, 17 December 2013 - 07:52 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 08:42 PM

I believe the #'s were 128 videos submitted according to the forum - anet expected up to 5000.
I watched 25 secs of it and turned it off - even in mute had to do it.

If anyone has updated numbers please correct me.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 08:51 PM

View Postnerfandderf, on 17 December 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

I believe the #'s were 128 videos submitted according to the forum - anet expected up to 5000.
I watched 25 secs of it and turned it off - even in mute had to do it.

If anyone has updated numbers please correct me.

https://www.youtube....1S9nifT0fCtH2U4

118 videos, there are some deletions.

And yes, the number of prizes available was 5000.

Based on these failed expectations, I think their energies should be directed at pleasing what they currently have instead of trying to lure in new players.

Edited by MazingerZ, 17 December 2013 - 09:00 PM.

It's okay to enjoy crap if you're willing to admit it's crap.
Every patch is like ArenaNet walking out onto the stage of the International Don't Kitten Up Championship, and then proceeding to shiv itself in the stomach 30 times while screaming "IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD! IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!"

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 10:06 PM

View Postnerfandderf, on 17 December 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

I believe the #'s were 128 videos submitted according to the forum - anet expected up to 5000.
I watched 25 secs of it and turned it off - even in mute had to do it.

If anyone has updated numbers please correct me.

Wow that makes this already cringe worthy video just downright sad. 118 out of an potential 5000, that is just a whole new level of NOPE.

I have to admit this whole PR attempt was just a failure from the get go, the simple fact is asking people to take an oath a pledge for some random game is just way above creepy. Who ever thought this needs to be fired right away otherwise things are going to move to, "Hey we here are ArenaNet couldn't help but notice after digging through your garbage that you wasted $15 on a subscription fee to another game! That sounds like a waste of money so we took the liberty of sending someone to sneak into your room while you're sleeping so that you could come back to GW2 when you wake up! Remember you said you'd love us forever!"

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 10:28 PM

And when i thought that "taxi" video was hilarious.......they make this..........i`m lost for words !

Oh my and oath, talkin` smack about competition stating how better their game is.......the only true statement was ( no monthly fees ) everything else is just big joke.....no grind especially that was huge LOL !!!

P.S. Anet must be some secret cult, they are deaf, dumb, blind to any input from open world (players) they stick to their own principles even everyone can see they are doing it wrong, and they openly suggest that their "thing" (game) is above any other ! :P

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:06 AM

View Postraspberry jam, on 17 December 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

I think the bad UI part is about the lack of customizability and add-ons.

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I would by no means like an UI that looked like above, but I appreciate the fact that it is possible to make.

Lmfao. My WoW UI is cleaner than GW2's and with better information tracking (mostly because I'm not blinded by light shows 24/7), that shit is funny though! I gotta ask myself if that screenshot was just a joke.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:35 PM

View Postrukia, on 19 December 2013 - 01:06 AM, said:

Lmfao. My WoW UI is cleaner than GW2's and with better information tracking (mostly because I'm not blinded by light shows 24/7), that shit is funny though! I gotta ask myself if that screenshot was just a joke.
Have you ever done raids as a healer? That screenshot is from the PoV of a druid healer - they have the raid members open, so can see health's, has threat metre's up to ensure they do not grab aggro from the boss/mobs, also have a buff tracking addon open as well. I'm not 100% sure what the lower central addon is tho - the one right underneath a HoT timer tracking addon.  Not sure if the image is a joke, but it's a similar/typical screen I have seen from ppl who used to heal the old 25 & even older 40 man raids - has many of the standard type of addons used & needed by raid healers (at that time of raiding).

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:15 PM

View PostKamatsu, on 19 December 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

Have you ever done raids as a healer? That screenshot is from the PoV of a druid healer - they have the raid members open, so can see health's, has threat metre's up to ensure they do not grab aggro from the boss/mobs, also have a buff tracking addon open as well. I'm not 100% sure what the lower central addon is tho - the one right underneath a HoT timer tracking addon.  Not sure if the image is a joke, but it's a similar/typical screen I have seen from ppl who used to heal the old 25 & even older 40 man raids - has many of the standard type of addons used & needed by raid healers (at that time of raiding).

The one there is also a unit frame tracker, but its in a tiny form.  It was called Grid and I used it when I had to Paladin heal in raids (I was normally a tank).  Thing is, Paladin healing was all crit-healing during that time, so I didn't really need to keep track health bars to proactively lay down the HoTs...  I had a bigger screen, but yeah, I will admit that healers probably had the busiest UIs.  To be fair, they didn't really need to see much...

The reason Grid is being used is because it takes of a small space to navigate and find people.  But it's tight nature made it so that it was harder to tell who might need proactive druid healing, I imagine.

Edited by MazingerZ, 19 December 2013 - 01:19 PM.

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