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#1 Cpt Retardo

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 04:17 AM

hello, i have a question for the people of gw2. i've been playing gw1 on-and-off for 66 months, the reason i didn't update to gw2, like everyone else, was because i had a quite bad computer, however this has changed and my current computer can fully run gw2 without laag.
So anyway i've been reading the "common gw2 questions" or w/e the thread was called and something that came on my mind was that you only started with 30 bank storage slots and had to buy the rest with gems which you got through real life money. Now in gw1 i have 140 filled storage slots in my bank and was just wondering if any of you feel like the small bank storage is a big problem in general? Also i read that you can also buy in-game weapons, armors etc with these gems, so is there a 'pay to win' thing going on in gw2? Summary: Wondering if its essential for a future 'big-time' gw2 player to buy gems to succeed, or does it work fine w/o purchasing stuff with real life money? How many of you level 80 guys have bought gems and does it make a decently huge impact if you dont?
Thanks for the future replies, will hold up buying gw2 untill i've gotten a few replies here or just after i've done some research.
Also sorry for any grammatical errors, english isn't my mother-language.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 06:15 AM

I've been playing GW2 since the head start and haven't spent a dime on gems. I have converted plenty of in-game gold to gems though. I'd say about half of the money I make goes to the gem store for convenience items (name change, character slots, makeover kit, bank expansion, transmutation crystals) and skins (asthetics). Frankly you don't need any of the convenience items until you've been around for a while and start to accumulate characters/wealth. By then you'll probably have plenty of money. By no means do you have to spend real life money on this game, but it would be helpful when getting started. With the economy as it is it could be difficult for new players to gear up (max stat gear is expensive, money is hard to come by until later levels). The best advice I can give you if you choose to start playing is to join a guild (most will help gear your first character up) and gather resources as frequently as possible (low level resources can be sold for a fair amount because people don't tend to stick around in lower-level zones). Also don't worry about crafting until you've got enough money to blow through. It's useful for leveling alts but it's mostly a gold sink.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 09:11 AM

There isn't an actual pay to win, as most of the weapons and armor you can buy are skins only, meaning they're just appearances you can apply to the items you already have.

The bank slots are indeed small, but on the other hand you have a whole number of banks for specific items like a bank for food, a bank for crafting materials, a bank for minipets and such. The actual bank would probably only be used to a certain extent, which 30 slots could often surfice to cover. You can still buy additional storage, should it still become a problem.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 09:42 AM

You can buy absolutely anything in the gem store (I don't just mean you have the option, but that it is viable to do so) with just gold and never ever spend a dime of real money. You'll have to farm for gold of course, but farming money is a part of every MMO.

As for the bank tabs, buying 1 new bank tabs will cost you around 42g, a sum that can be farmed in 1 day for hardcore players spending 3-4 hours/day on making gold, 1-2 weeks by more casual players.

But you will only need to buy new bank tabs once you fill the first 30, which will take a while (unless you hoarde and save worthless crap items). You'll be well into your 3-4th level 80 char before that happens. Just like in gw1 you have a collectibles tabs for mats and such so they don't take up any of your "normal" bank space.

In short, it's a non issue.

The only gear type items you can buy in the gem store are skins, these skins need to be applied to gear with stats to be used. There is 0 pay2win in gw2. At most there's a little "Pay4convenience" going on, but only a very little.

Edited by Senatic, 29 December 2013 - 09:48 AM.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 09:47 AM

There's not actually a pay2win, but there is a classic store situation going on in the game. We've had a very limited number of weapon skins in the gemstore, and a handful of armour skins. Most weapon skins are always put into the BLC because they want people to RNG for it.

You can purchase more space if you want, it costs about 600gems. You can purchase them through money irl or through gold if you are good at saving up and farming as the rates are really bad.

Gems can be converted to gold as well, which I don't know if is a p2w thing. However, their rates are nowhere near the rates of real gold in the game, so you lose money converting unless you purchase illegally.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:41 AM

Two things to understand regarding this:

1-Bank slots are limited to 30 at the start, but you also get a free storage pane that holds all raw materials and many craftable recipe items, meaning most of the items you get go there if you want them to.

2- You can buy extra bank slots with either gems, or by converting in-game gold to gems.  There is no set amount, as the price changes depending on supply/demand.
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Posted 29 December 2013 - 11:12 AM

Basicly if that is your fear, no need to worry. :)
Gem store in this game is convinience in general, even if you want something badly you can buy it with gold for a copule of days's  farm.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 01:26 PM

You can buy top tier armor and weapons with gold, that can be attained by selling gems you buy with RL cash by converting the gems to gold.  BUT, most of the gear and weapons that are at that very cutting edge tier are thousands and thousands of gold.  For example, the greatsword "Eternity" usually sells out at  a little over 4000 gold.  I was curious the other night, so i did the math based on the current rate of gems to gold and found that if one wanted to convert gems to 4000 gold, it would cost the person right around $1250.  Unless yer like that dude in the commercial who drinks pure gold and has a miniature giraffe, i don't think thats happenin.  lol

As far as bank space - auction every blue/green/yellow (that you cant use) you get and you can right click crafting mats to your "collectibles" bank slots.  You do everything purely free, its just gonna take a while.  I myself, i buy gems.  $10 every 2 weeks so i can buy bank space, because i dig supporting the game.

Edited by Veji, 29 December 2013 - 01:28 PM.

#9 Cpt Retardo

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 02:34 PM

Thanks for the replies :) I was under the impression that gems had a big impact on the game, but i guess thats not the case. Going to buy gw2 today and heading over to the guild recruitment now :)

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